eddie-the-razor

I'd guess you could get one listed, but you'd need to contact Groundspeak about it. The reviewer has to work the guidelines. The guideline wording above seems very specific. If the Quarry placed the cache it is not permitted, if you placed it and are you not associated with the quarry, it is permitted. I don't know your specific arrangement and perhaps your reviewer doesn't either. As far as how much $$.... there is nothing written, but there are lots of caches in Disney World which I'm sure charges a bunch more than the quarry. I think you are misinterpreting the guidelines. It doesn't matter who places it. As far as the Disney caches, most have been removed except a few virtuals. Also the existing ones were published quite a while ago. I doubt they would be published today. That's a good point! But I've been wondering about this cache listing. Was the cache listed, out for a year, then the listing got rescinded? A cache in a private area that charges to visit definently sounds commerical, but if it was out for a year (??) shouldn't it have been archived? or did noone ever find it??? There are many 'under-the-radar' caches out there! Reviewers appear to have some latitude in interpretation and enforcement; when a new Reviewer is assigned to an area he/she has no way to know what kind of caches the previous Reviewer may have allowed. Cachers have been known to leave out certain pertinent detail in their listing submission... there are a number of ways an 'illegal' cache might exist out there, and may exist for years, as Reviewers probably don't spend a lot of time scouring their area for trouble. Once an illegal cache gets called to a Reviewer's attention, however, I expect they have to act on it. I wouldn't think that just because the cache lasted a while before getting busted gives it any sort of grandfathered status. Yea I realize there are 'under-the-radar' caches out, and yes reviewers should act on these things when they find them / are brought up. I never said it deserves to be grandfathered for being out there for a while. Its commerical, it needed addressed. What I don't understand is why it was recinded instead of archived. Its not like every cache that turns out to be not as advertised gets recinded, they usually get archived, right?? And according to the OP this was even known of and permitted by the previous reviewer, not found and 'busted'. Yes opions change, people change, what one said was ok is not with the next. If the reviewer wanted to kill the cache, thats fine. But they called the whole thing totally invalid. Maybe there's more details that made this cache worse then it sounds?... making it worthy of being un-happened I need to clarify: I am the one who started this thread. I had the permission of the quarry owner to place the cache and I do NOT have any affiliation with them. I am just a diver and geocacher. I initially had the permission of the KY reviewer to place the cache. I made the trip, did the dive, and placed the cache in the deepest part of the quarry. Then when I tried to enable the cache, the KY reviewer had changed to a different person - and denied the cache. I was mostly upset to have constructed a bottom floating cache, traveled to the dive site, placed it... and all for nothing! Eddie-the-Razor

I'd guess you could get one listed, but you'd need to contact Groundspeak about it. The reviewer has to work the guidelines. The guideline wording above seems very specific. If the Quarry placed the cache it is not permitted, if you placed it and are you not associated with the quarry, it is permitted. I don't know your specific arrangement and perhaps your reviewer doesn't either. As far as how much $$.... there is nothing written, but there are lots of caches in Disney World which I'm sure charges a bunch more than the quarry. I had the permission of the quarry owner - and blessing. I placed it myself and have no connection with the location. Eddie the Razor

About $20

No - I'm just an avid diver and it sounded like fun! Eddie the Razor

Problem: I placed an underwater cache for geo-scuba divers 30 feet down in the middle of a private diver's quarry in Kentucky (Cerulean Springs Quarry). Initially, the reviewer (KY) said, "Ok" even though there is a fee to enter the location. I placed it a year ago (it's still down there) but a new reviewer cancelled the idea. He said the entrance fee was incompatible with geocaching. In general, I agree. Question: How is this any different from many state, and federal parks that have an entrance fee? And, is it proper to consider an acceptible fee if the cache is highly unusual and completely unique? Thoughts on the subject?? Eddie the Razor

I have found 30 or so caches and have logged them the same way. When I go to my cache page, they are, of course, all there... except 2 of them are listed three times - same date and all. What's more, my total count is artificially high because each of the repeats is counted. When I go to the actual cache page, it only shows my one visit. What have I done wrong and how can I correct the error? eddie-the-razor

I have found 30 or so caches and have logged them the same way. When I go to my cache page, they are, of course, all there... except 2 of them are listed three times - same date and all. What's more, my total count is artificially high because each of the repeats is counted. When I go to the cache page, it only shows my one visit. What have I done wrong and how can I correct the error? eddie-the-razor

I feel used. I'm a dislexic agnostic with insomnia and stayed up all last night wondering if there really is a dog. What a waste. Bummed.

I knew someone would mention "family friendly" and steep hills or caches near busy streets. Parse the words and drift the meaning all you want, but "family friendly" means pretty much what it says - something the whole family can enjoy without having to monitor what inappropriate material the kids may get into. Listen to the meaning - not the words. OK, let the enlightened ones flame me now, I have my asbestos suit on (and yes, it chaffes).

My vote (who asked me?): keep it clean. There's no real reason not to.

Can I search for caches by city if I don't know the zip. I know I can go to zip.com, but is there an easier way?

I placed a traveler in a new cache and after only a few vists, he is missing. No mention in the log or here in the posts. I'm disappointed that someone would take it and either not understand what it was or care so little. I'm not looking for solutions - just venting. *Grrrrr*