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If all three vehicles had the same mechanic, and all three vehicles started having problems when a new brand of gas was put in and 99% of the other people using that same gas had no problems, I'd probably blame the mechanic. Well Chilehead, thankyou for your insight. But, just for your information, if you had read my post, you would see that I have had another "mechanic", or two, to check into my problem. Sorry, but I got a clean bill of health. So, what's next, drain the tank, go to another gas station, get a new car, maybe a new radio, maybe an oil change, that ought to help........................????????? Hmmmm, looks like someone with the same old mechanic, has chimed in, after me. Maybe you can go and pick on (excuse me, try and help) him for a while, or better yet, just read back up the list of post. There is plenty of fresh meat up there, for you to pick on. Good Luck, and thanks so much for your helpful input...........

If this is also what you are seeing, then it has been reported and acknowleged in at least one other thread. And as I said above, hitting F5 one or more times (usually just once) will get the rest of the page to list. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I SEE AND EXACTLY WHAT I HAVE TO DO ALSO! I really hate to burst someones bubble, but this problem is NOT unique to IE7 and IE8, whether you are using WinXP or Vista et cetera. It happens with Win98se and IE6, but then again I'm running an antique computer with and old browser and no one gives me the time of day, except to tell me to buy a new computer. Got Money? Send It! Oh yah, I also run Firefox 2.? and the problem doesn't show up with that browser. Furthermore, when the website changes were made, on IE6 the cache pages became all screwed up the left side. But then at a later date the problem went away, but now it's back. Got Answers? Telling me to go out and buy a new computer, OPS and browser, (like that's going to solve all the problems) is not going to happen. Some of us old farts who are on limited incomes, cannot at the drop of a hat do that. Does anyone remember an old adage that says: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it!". Sorry to say this, but GC is still broke and my antique computer still works everywhere else without problems. ATTENTION: This post is written to Fledermaus........... And yes, it may be a bit sarcastic, so with that being said, those of you that don't want to hear my griping anymore, please skip to the next post, along with those of you, that don't want to admit that there is a problem on GC.com. I really don't care to hear back from any of you. As I said, I'm replying to Fledermaus, and only to Fledermaus........so thank you very much ! Hello Fledermaus, Thank you very much for your comments. I'm quite shocked though, because basically, it's been my understanding, that I'm the only one with this problem, and that I should just get "my house cleaned up", shut up, and go away. And the reason is, because I am using IE8 (as does most of the free world), and everyone knows, that IE8, isn't worth a crap, and that it's probably the sorriest browser out there. And likewise, I'm told, "You need to change to something else, get with it". Oh, and of course, then there's Microsoft Windows XP, and likewise, that isn't worth a crap either, and "I need to get rid of that also, and go out and get something else". Oh, and it doesn't seem to matter, that all my stuff is up to date, and that I have had everything diagnosed, by professionals, and that I have been told, unequivocally, that "this is NOT my problem, and that this problem is unique, to the GC.com, website. They've obviously got bugs, in whatever software changes they implemented, back in January 2010" But, yes, you put it correctly, GC.com is broke, but no one wants to talk about that, or admit it. SHHH! Oh, and it makes no difference, that not only do I have this problem on one computer, but on three computers, and that they are all experiencing the same page error, as are others. I'm told that I should just forget it, and as you say, throw out, all of that old outdated stuff, and go get yourself something new, with all the latest "teckie" bells and whistles (which I have no use for), even though, my computers are all less than a year old, (oh, sorry, I lied about that, maybe one of them is a year and a half old). But never the mind, it's all my problem, to deal with, and I should just quit complaining, and gripping, and work around the issue. After all no one else is experiencing this problem, or we would be having "mass mayhem", here on the forum. Well, you can just guess, what I think of that. Only thing, I can't say it on this forum. But anyway, I did want to take the opportunity, to THANK, the "ONE" other person, in the entire world, that didn't mind stepping forward, and admitting, that they have the same problem, as I am experiencing (that's wrong too, there are a lot of others, but again, we shouldn't talk about that). So, just thanks, for confirming, that at least you, are experiencing the same issues. I suppose, that all of these other people, have overlooked the obvious fact, that sometime back, way back, and as you so aptly pointed out in your post, "Knowschad", actually posted the "exact screen shot", and error, of what both you and I, are experiencing. I think that he may have even mentioned, that this problem has also been reported in another thread (?) But, I don't know how he was able to reproduce it, because all the knowledgeable programmers, at GC.com, can't seem to do it themselves, and that being the case, since they can't do it, the problem just isn't worth their time to look into, so they continue to ignore the issue. And yes, you are quite correct in your statement, that "this problem is NOT unique, to IE7 and/or IE8, but you'll never get anyone to admit that. You are also correct in your statement, that GC.com is broke, and it is still broke, and it has been broke, since January 2010................but careful how you say that, also. And as for this problem, well, it's not alone, not by a long shot. The problems are streaming into the forum, on so many different threads, so fast, that I'm sure they don't know whether to sit down, or eat potato salad. The problems being reported, are like an endless stream, and not just this problem, but a mass of other issues, which were all created, back in January. Just take a minute, if you have time, and go look at them. It's mind boggling. But to be quite honest, I don't care why, GC.com made those changes, I agree with you, "If it ain't broke, don't mess with it". Oh yeah, I also, am NOT, going to run out and buy a new computer, with a new operating system, and change browsers, just to be able to access one (1) website. How did you put that, "Ain't going to happen" ? Well, Amen ! Plus, you are correct again, that's not going to fix the problem, anyway. I, like you, don't have any problems, on any of my computers, on any other websites, except GC.com, but hey, I've wasted my time saying that before, also, so once again, I'll close...................good luck, I wish you the best, and carry on. As for me, I'm completed disgusted !!

Well it sure seems like a lot of people are having the problem. Actually, no. It doesn't not any more. Even in the beginning of this thread, it wasn't all that many people. Believe me... if it were very many people, this thread would be on page #9,197 by now. Whatever it is that you and a few others are experiencing is unusual and you will need to work with, not raging against, Groundspeak if you are to get it resolved, since they apparently are unable to replicate the problems, and that is the first step of fixing it. I've tried to work with them. Basically I was told I needed to clear my history and my cache. Well, that's the line, that every, "flunky, first-line tech support", person tries, no matter what the problem, just to get rid of you. So, needless to say, after explaining that I do this, no less than daily, and usually numerous times a day, I quickly realized, that effort was going no where. All I was told is that they were working on it. Great! Ok, maybe everyone that uses the website doesn't have this exact problem, but just go and look at the constant stream of various problems that people are having. It's continuous, and most all of them began in January. Now, someone asked if the other people, that I knew personally, had the same ISP, as I. As a matter of fact - NO. I happen to be on Time Warner Road Runner. One neighbor is on AOL, and another on some other provider, that I've never heard of. Just seems funny, that the two people that I know, personally, that use the site, are also having similar problems on their systems. It's also very frustrating, when you are trying to show them the joys of geocaching, and they you "hit the wall", with the very one website, that you need to work....................needless to say, interest dwindles quickly. Thanks again, for your encouragement, but like I said before, I really don't care any more............. I don't know anything else to do, or anyone else to go to. I've had system's people to take a look, at my computers. They've run all kinds of diagnostic checks, virus checks, hardware checks, etc,. My systems are clean and healthy. They are up to date, as they can possibly be, and they were when they were checked. No problems of any kind on any of my units. And as for the, "here today, gone tomorrow", problem, I've been told unequivocally, by those that know much more than I, that this is NOT my problem, that it is clearly a "BUG" in the website's program. These are people that make their living with this stuff. So basically, I'm at a loss. All I know is that I DID NOT HAVE A PROBLEM, before January. If people, that know these systems, inside and out, tell me that I do not have any problems, then please tell me what am I to do. I have done every single thing, that every forum member has suggested. I have looked for every "phantom program", that every one has brought up. None of that stuff is on my computer. Getting on this website, is about as "wild" as I get, so far as surfing the web and browsing. I don't venture out in directions that I know nothing about. My computer is fully scanned daily, and updated. You won't find many people, that are more careful, or more diligent about computer health, safety, and security, than I. I just give up..................thanks for all that have listened to me gripe, and sorry to have taken up so much of your time.............but again, "THIS" isn't worth it...............

Thanks for the pep talk, but let me ask you this, suppose all three of your vehicles, all different brands, all with different engines, or brake systems, or whatever, - What if all three had the same problem, at the same time, and they all started at the exact same time................What would you think then ? I do appreciate you taking the time to attempt to help, but I have already heard it all, and there "are" people with the same problem, a lot of them. There are all kinds of problems, coming in from all over, not just under this specific topic. I simply don't think anything is being done about it. And once again, I don't have anything unusual, going on here. Please understand again, 3 different computers, 3 different brands, 2 different operating systems, and all using IE8, as is most of the rest of the world. My problems started the day they changed the website........... Again, I appreciate your concern and help, but I simply don't care any more. No one else does, that's for sure.

Click here for more information about Fast Browser Search and how to remove it if it's been installed in your browser. The instructions mention also removing a Facebook application called MyTattoo, but there are other ways the plug-in can wind up installed. If you've never visited Facebook or installed MyTattoo, you can ignore that part. --Larry Hi Larry, Thanks for the info, however, I don't have any of that on my computer. Just to make sure, I did go and check, but it's not there. As I said, I've never even been to Facebook. I'm not a social network junkie, for sure....................thanks again Now, (not directed at you Larry) this problem that I am experiencing, began, not close, but exactly, when GC.com made the changes to the website, back in January, just as it has effected all the other people that have chimed in. Yes, my system will work with Firefox, and Chrome, but I USE IE8, and I am not going to be forced to change what I am comfortable with, just because of one website. I'm just not going to use Firefox, or Google Chrome. I don't like them, I don't like anything about them. I've always used IE, and I am using the very latest version, with the very latest, up to the minute, updates. The way to fix everyones problems, and again, there is an endless stream of problems coming into the Groundspeak forum, but no one seems to take notice of that, but still, the way to fix them, is to put the website back like it was. Hey GC.com, ever heard "IF IT AIN'T BROKE, DON'T TRY TO FIX IT". The website was working perfectly until those programers got their fingers on the keyboards..........Why not flip the switch back to January 1st, then let those programers play with the program, until they get it right, and THEN, maybe would be a better time to "dump" it on us.........

I can't say for sure, as I have never heard of "Fast Browser Search", as a default search engine. To the best of my understanding, my default search engine is Google. Otherwise, my computer does go through a full system scan, daily. It surely scans for syyware, and other malicious material, during this scan. I've been using Norton Internet Security for years. If you would be so kind as to direct me, as to where to look, I will be more than happy to check on the "Fast Browser Search", because I'm pulling what little hair I've got left, out. As for Facebook, and social networking websites, this forum, and standard email, is about as social as I get. I do not visit, and have never even been to the Facebook website, whatever that is. I don't know anything about it......however, practically everyone I know is on Facebook, but, I have never joined, or investigated it. Thanks for your help............

Look, I know you are trying to help, but NOT funny. I'm so tired of people telling me to use Firefox, or Chrome, or whatever, I don't know what to do. As one member put it so clearly, most of the free world uses IE, and I intend on continuing to use it, as I have for years. Besides, I have tried, and I mean really tried, to force myself to use Firefox. Bottom line, I despise it and I will not allow myself to be forced, to use a browser that I hate, just because some programmers at GC.com got carried away, and threw something out here, way before it was ready. As I said way back when this started, I don't have to GeoCache, but it's just a shame that they messed things up like this. I don't know what everybody is doing differently, but so far as I am aware, everyone that I personally know, that uses the GC.com website, is now having some kind of problem, right now, and nobody is getting anything done about it. Maybe you are right, it must be the water..........go figure....... Oh, and nothing personal, I'm still just a little steamed, because this has been going on since the middle of January, exactly when the changes to the website were implemented..........2 + 2 = ???

Well it sure seems like a lot of people are having the problem. It's been explained to "whoever", over and over and over. People have sent you the error messages, the coding, screen shots of what we are seeing, and computer set-up galore. I don't know how much more information, we could supply. We are not using anything unusual. It's Windows XP and IE8 - all with the latest updates and versions.............How can that be so hard? You guys have been telling me it's my problem, and now, just by chance, I run into a neighbor, yesterday, who was here, when it happened again, and yes, the exact same thing, is happening on his computer. Maybe it's something in the water ??? I'm just very frustrated and discouraged, along with a whole lot of other people. There are problems coming in by the truckload, not just under this topic, but under the GC.com forum itself. I've never seen so many problems, and "You're looking (?)"...........when is somebody going to do something ? Again, sorry for the venting, but this is just unacceptable. I DO NO BELIEVE THAT I AM THE ONLY ONE WITH THIS PROBLEM...............gosh, have you guys seen all the problems that are being reported in the forums. It's an endless stream of problems, coming in everyday. SORRY, but I'm outta here, before I say something very unacceptable. And yes, I have been in direct contact ,with the GC.com customer support, and I may as well have spoken with a tree.........for all the help they provided. They basically told me that they didn't know what was wrong and really just left me hanging. No Reply to my return emails.

Good luck with the newer machines at home. That's just garbage, and most likely won't make any difference..................I'm using three different machines, all less than a year old, one desktop, two laptops, three different brands of computers, two different operating systems, Windows XP Pro on two, Windows Vista on one, and IE8 browser on all three, with absolutely all the latest updates, on everything. It makes no difference! Nothing is happening and I don't think GC.com even cares............. I started this topic, sometime back & I've contacted GC.com support directly, all to no avail, and only to be told, that it's just my machines that are having the problems, oh, and now I forgot my neighbors, and oops, don't forget all the other members that have chimed in, on this forum, with the same or similar problem. It's one problem right after another, and nothing is happening................ It's been long enough, and I say again, GC.com PLEASE FIX THESE PROBLEMS SO WE CAN GET BACK TO USING THE SITE WITHOUT CONTINUOUS PROBLEMS - HOW LONG IS THIS GOING TO TAKE..............

Boy was I WRONG.....I thought the problems on the GC.com website had been corrected. WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG. All the same old stuff, that I started out with, on the day of the website change, is still there. As has been mentioned, there is no pattern to these problems. They go and come. But you know what is really so frustrating? I'm trying so hard, to teach a couple of friends, about the joy and fun, that one can have, GeoCaching, but every time I try to show them how to work the website, it's one problem after another. Needless to say, I'm not getting anywhere fast, with my efforts to enlighten the others, because of the endless problems that keep occurring. We usually end up just quitting, completely disgusted !! COME ON GC.COM - PLEASE GET THE PROBLEMS FIXED - THIS IS GETTING "OLD" - REAL FAST - HOW LONG IS THIS GOING TO TAKE ? And another strange occurrance, both of my friends are haveing the exact same problems on their computers, as I am, and NO, I don't have a clue what either of them are running, and I don't care. I'm beginning to think that really doesn't make any difference. And, all those who keep asking and pointing to my systems (3 of them, all different), and wanting me to try this and try that, SAVE YOUR BREATH, the problem AIN'T HERE, it's at GC.com....and I absolutely refuse to believe that I'm the only one with this problem. Just go back an read the post after post, entered by people with the very same or similiar problems. So far as I am concerned, GC.com has simply backed up and stepped in it, this time. To bad there's not another website to carry on this hobby, cause I'd be gone.........

Well, as the originator, of this topic, I am glad to say that, now, today at least, the problem with the caches surrounding my home coordinates failing to load, is working perfectly (?), and, I am still using Windows XP and Internet Explorer 8. All I can say is, thanks, to whoever fixed this GC.com problem, on my end anyway. Now, the only thing that I see wrong, is the excessive amount of "white space", on each cache page. It just appears that there is so much wasted space. It takes two, sometimes three pages, if you should want to print out a cache page. It sure would be nice if they could compact, or fix that annoying situation too.................but, at least, progress is being made........thanks

Can't tell if you're kidding, but in case you're not... 1. Platinum membership is a recurring joke in the forums. 2. PQ = pocket query. Strange name. Essentially it is an ability to save a query set (e.g. all geocaches small and larger, regular only, 5 miles from specified coordinates). If you google for "geocache pocket query" you can find out more. 3. PQ for the entire state? Just move to Rhode Island or Delaware. You can download the entire state in 3 PQs. No, I wasn't kidding, and that still doesn't help. Ok, PQ is a Pocket Query ? Sooooooooooo, I still don't know what a PQ is. Maybe I should ask, what is a pocket query.........? As I mentioned in another post, I don't "i" anything. I use a regular old GPS. It takes me to the caches, and that is all that I care about.

Sorry, I still don't have a clue................................PQ ????

What's a PQ ?? And why would I want one..........................

You need to install the Greasemonkey scripts and style sheets referenced in that other thread I pointed you do before Firefox will look any better. I don't know anything about any Greasemonkey, and why should I have to install any such crap ! I ought to be able to turn on my computer, bring up the browser of my choice, and log into GC.com........this is just a bunch of crap...................I'm really, really, really, really, really, getting fed up with this....... (nothing personal, I assure you, just tired of this S _ _ _ !!!!)

HI, TFTH thanks for the hide TFTC thanks for the cache & TNLN took nothing, left nothing SL signed logbook Mugglers, yes you are right, it's people that may see you retrieve or replace a cache, and then go investigate after you leave. You want to avoid mugglers at all times.......... It'll begin to make sense, after a while..............happy caching

knowschad, I address this to you, since I did hear you mention the "white space" problem earlier...but anyone else that's got a clue, please chime in. Does anyone have any ideas on this one...............? So what is up with all the white space on the cache pages? Some of it has been addressed by Groundspeak since the release, but possibily the best solution is here: http://forums.Groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=239866 Well, I'm just not getting much out of that. I thought the "white space" problem had been fixed, at one time. As I said, back during the beginning of the other problem (which I still have, BTW), on several different occasions when I would be able to pull up the caches, the "white space" problem was gone. The "Hints" section, was directly under the cache description. Then the next time I looked, it was messed up again, on all three browsers ? I just don't understand what's going on any more. Why can't GC.com get the website repaired? I'm wondering how long this is going to take............ You are still getting the so-called "lockup" problem, huh? I hadn't checked in a while, but did earlier today, and did not see the issue, so I had assumed they had fixed it somehow.I don't know what else to say about the whitespace issue except that it has made me pretty much a Firefox convert. Well, I've got the "White Space" problem with IE8, Firefox, and Chrome. That one is not relegated to IE8, only ??? This is really getting pretty disgusting.

knowschad, I address this to you, since I did hear you mention the "white space" problem earlier...but anyone else that's got a clue, please chime in. Does anyone have any ideas on this one...............? So what is up with all the white space on the cache pages? Some of it has been addressed by Groundspeak since the release, but possibily the best solution is here: http://forums.Groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=239866 Well, I'm just not getting much out of that. I thought the "white space" problem had been fixed, at one time. As I said, back during the beginning of the other problem (which I still have, BTW), on several different occasions when I would be able to pull up the caches, the "white space" problem was gone. The "Hints" section, was directly under the cache description. Then the next time I looked, it was messed up again, on all three browsers ? I just don't understand what's going on any more. Why can't GC.com get the website repaired? I'm wondering how long this is going to take............

knowschad, I address this to you, since I did hear you mention the "white space" problem earlier...but anyone else that's got a clue, please chime in. Does anyone have any ideas on this one...............? So what is up with all the white space on the cache pages? One day I view a page, and everything is nice and compact, and you can actually print the desired information, on one page, if you like. The next time, another day, another time (there's no pattern this), the cache appears with gigantic, useless white space, located between the cache description and the hint. So, can someone please explain why this keeps happening and why it keeps getting fixed and then "UN" fixed.............??? Maybe I'm a bit old fashioned, but I like to print out the cache pages, just for a reference, to take along when I'm going out caching, and NO, I'm not using an "i" anything. I just use a regular old GPS, loaded with the caches in my area. And just to be clear, yes, I'm using Windows XP Professional and/or Vista (latest editions), on three different computers, with all current updates for everything, along with lE8, Mozilla Foxfire, & Google Chrome, all which are the very latest versions. I thought that at least, this problem had been corrected, several several days ago. So far as I am concerned, Geocaching.com, has really made a mess with all the website changes. I'm trying so hard to show a few friends a little about the fun and enjoyment of geocaching, but every time we get started, there's another issue with the website, and the "interest factor", dwindles quickly. It's like, "if it's going to be like this, every time, why bother. It's just more trouble than it is enjoyment. Why would anyone want to geocache, and have to put with this kind of frustration, every time?" Unfortunately, I don't really have a good come back for that, because they are right....................GC.com, PLEASE GET THE WEBSITE FIXED !!!

Hello, I feel your pain, concerning the website changes at geocaching.com, however, you might want to read the posts, under the topic, "Geocaching.com website problem", and maybe move your post there. We have basically "beat this horse to death", concerning the changes that have been made. Anyway, it's listed about two or three topics below yours, if you would like to move your comments over there, and cancel this new topic. It's hard for people to keep up with too many different topics, which are actually concerning the same subject..........your choice......... Good Luck........

Well, I told myself, that I was not going to jump back into this mess (that I started), what seems like ages ago. I told myself to “stand down”. I have bitten my tongue, over and over, as I have continued to see, member after member, chime in, with the same, or similar problem. (BTW, to those of you that did, I thank you for your support, however, I sympathize with your plight.) And yes, I’m the bad guy here that started this post. How dare I do such…………….. As for me, I have listened to this, just about as long as I intend to. At this point, as I told Mtn-Man in a PM, I was simply frustrated, and may have vented, a little too much, in one of my previous post. If that be the case, I apologize, to anyone that I may have offended, especially “knowschad”, (nothing personal, I assure you). You just caught me at a bad time. And as I also told Mtn-Man, I DO NOT have to GeoCache. It’s a hobby, it’s supposed to be fun, and we shouldn’t have to put up with this kind of situation (trying to be nice here). Needless to say, I am sick and tired, of people trying to tell me that my computer is screwed up, and I am the only person in the world with a problem, and that I should clean up my own house. Well to that, I say, “well I won’t say!” But from the looks of this forum, I’m beginning to feel, “Not So All Alone”. But just so everyone will know, I can assure you, that my house is clean. I’ve even had an outside party to check my systems, and I am happy to report that they are quite “healthy”.......as in “No Problems”. Now, just an update on browsers. I may have held back a little information in the beginning, but in the beginning, I was using IE8, and IE8 is what I was having the problem with, hence, I started this topic, concerning problems with GC.com and IE8. The GC.com people told me to address my concerns on the forum, so I intentionally directed my post to appear, as if I only had IE8. I really didn’t want to focus, on anything else, but now, just to clear the air; I do have three browsers on my computers, and have had them, for some time now. They are IE8, Mozilla FireFox, and Google Chrome, and each and every one of these browsers are the very latest versions, with all updates. I use them all, off and on, but most of the time it’s IE8. And yes, it’s obvious, that the common denominator, with my three computers, is IE8, and how it interacts with GC.com’s recent changes, and to that, I say, so what? Half the world uses IE (various versions). Half the world doesn’t even know, that there is anything else to use. They use what came on their computers, and that’s it. And on this note, I refuse to believe, the GC.com, would intentionally design anything, that won’t work with IE, whether they, or you, personally like Microsoft, or not. Incidentally, I don’t disagree with any of the comments about getting away from Microsoft, but in this case, I happen to like IE, and I just don’t like either of those other two browsers. I’m sure they are fine, and I have honestly tried, numerous times, to force myself to use them on a regular basis. I have actually set my default browser, to them, and I have tried them, for weeks at a time. Sorry, I just did not like either of the other two browsers, better than I liked IE8, and I intend to continue using IE8, regardless. And yes, GC.com, does not seem to have a conflict, with FireFox, or with Chrome ! Great ! I think that all of these people, that are having similar problems, are just making a plea to GC.com, to “fix” the problem. Sure, we may be the 1/10 % of the world, who are having this problem, while 99.9 % are not, but for some reason, the troubled users are sure coming out of the woodwork now. You know, it’s like in business, the majority of people (customers) hate to complain, and most won't, but unfortunately, it’s those that don’t complain, that you usually end up loosing. You just never hear from them again…………….so to each his own. I think I’ll go do something else now, and maybe I’ll check back on geocaching.com later, much later.

I have purchased Bison Tubes from "Sissy-n-CR", in the past. They appear to be good tubes, and I think they are the real thing. They are only $2/ea, and they've got a great shipping deal. $2/order, so order a bunch...... Go here >> http://sissy-n-cr.com/store4.shtml It says: Aluminum Capsules by Bison Design These are the infamous Bison Tubes that you hear about. Genuine, not cheap knock-offs. I never had a problem with them........

Okay, seeing as you are not a moderator, I see no reason for you to get involved. However, if you had read the previous post, you would also have seen, that "yes", I have tried Firefox. I have done everything, that everyone has suggested. Likewise, don't sit there and try to tell me that I'm the only one having problems with the website, since the changes on GC.com. I'm reading post after post after post, where people are having problem after problem, with the site, and while I'm venting, I don't see where you have any right or business, to pick and make fun of, the other member, who just happened to be using an older computer, with an older OS and browser. That's his business, and very little of yours. Everyone doesn't have the latest and greatest techie toys from cyberland..........so you can cool it, on that. Now, as for my last post, I was simply trying to help, the moderators who have been so gracious, as to offer advice, concerning my "isolated" problem. I was merely trying to recap, in one post, and likewise, point out something, new or odd, that I had been able to pinpoint. No, I can't explain why it's happening, as I described. That's why I came back and reposted everything. So unless you have something useful to add, I really don't care for your comments, anymore, plus, I'm well aware of forum protocol. Thank you very much.... (and I hope this font meets with your approval)

OK, being the originator of this topic (big mess), I would like to ask a specific question, specifically directed to some of the MODERATORS of this forum, that may or may not be, still monitoring this subject. My question is this: CAN SOMEONE TELL ME, WHAT IS THE RELATIONSHIP, OR CONNECTION, BETWEEN www.geocaching.com and http://forums.Groundspeak.com , SO FAR AS HOW, EITHER MAY, OR MAY NOT REACT, WHEN ACCESSED SIMULTANEOUSLY, ONLINE ???? WHY DO I ASK, YOU SAY: Well, just to refresh your memory, or to bring my particular problem, back to mind, here is what was, and still is, happening: Since the recent changes to the GC.com website, I have had a problem on three separate computers, (Lenovo, HP, & Dell) two on XP, and one on Vista, all set up and configured at different times, all three on IE8, and all three running IE8, with “zero” problems, prior to those website changes. In addition, all three computers are 100% up to date, as updated constantly, automatically and manually, fully scanned daily, and likewise, I have done everything that has been suggested through this forum, concerning clearing the browser's cache, rebooting, refreshing, checking to see if javascript is enabled, etc. Again, three separate computers that are not networked together, three different brands, all with the same problem, and none of the three have had any problems, of any kind, with anything else, or any other website. Now, as for the details of my OS and browser, here they are, once again: Three (3) separate computers (Lenovo, HP, & Dell) two are on Microsoft Windows XP Professional version 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3 Build 2600, and they are using IE8 browser version 8.0.6001.18702. The third computer is on Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium version 6.0.6002 Service Pack 2 Build 6002, and likewise, it is using IE8 browser version 8.0.6001.18865. Now, here is how the actual problem goes: I bring up my browser (IE8) I access www.geocaching.com I enter my username & my password I click on my username at the top of the page, to go to my profile page I click the link to search for caches around my home coordinates I quite frequently get the following message, along with an error tone: X Internet Explorer cannot open the Internet site http://www.geocaching.com/seek/nearest.asp...;lng=-78.373064 Operation Aborted OK When I hit OK, the screen on the active tab goes blank, as if I have no internet connection. Then it just sits there, as if it is trying to load a page, turning and turning and turning. If I attempt to close that tab, it won’t close, and I then get the following message: X This window is busy Closing this window might cause some problems. Do you want to close it anyway? OK Cancel I then have to force shut, the browser and exit, in order to continue using my computer. Now as I said earlier, this does not happen every time and appeared to be unpredictable, however, I have now found that with the use of the “Back Page”, the “Forward Page”, and/or the “Refresh” or “F5” key, I can usually get the error message to go away, and eventually, the page will load. Also, in a previous log, I asked the following question, and so far as I can see, no one has so much as acknowledged, that I even questioned this.” “Does anyone know if being logged onto the Groundspeak forum, at the same time has any effect. I have logged onto that first, then gone to another windows tab, and logged onto geocaching.com, and then pulled up the caches successfully.” Which now brings me back to my original question, at the beginning of this post? After muddling around with this problem, for some days now, I have at least gotten something to occur, over and over, with some degree of “PREDICTABILITY”, but I don’t know why, therefore, my re-entry into this abandoned (by me, anyway) quest. Here’s what is happening NOW: I bring up my browser (IE8) I access www.geocaching.com I entered my username & my password I click on my username at the top of the page, to go to my profile page I click the link to begin the search, for caches around my home coordinates I ALWAYS get the following message, along with an error tone: X Internet Explorer cannot open the Internet site http://www.geocaching.com/seek/nearest.asp...;lng=-78.373064 Operation Aborted OK So, I go through the process of forcing the browser to close down and start over. NOW - THIS TIME I DO THE FOLLOWING: (something different) I bring up my browser (IE8) I access the Groundspeak Forums page http://forums.Groundspeak.com FIRST I enter my username & my password & I’m LOGGED ON THEN, I open a “SECOND TAB” and Now, I access www.geocaching.com I enter my username & my password I click on my username at the top of the page, to go to my profile page I click the link to search for caches around my home coordinates And, VOILA, it works perfectly – there are the caches, just as they should be !!! OK, FLUKE YOU SAY – I CAN HEAR IT NOW !!!! Well, just so you will know that I am not hallucinating, or jumping to some irrational conclusion, I have just set here, and duplicated this occurrence, 10 to 12 times, consecutively, and without fail. I have closed down the browser completely, each time between tests, and cleared the browser cache. It has worked perfectly, every time that I opened and signed onto the “Forums” page on the first tab, and then opened GC.com on a second tab. Every single time, that I have opened GC.com, on the first tab, and attempted the search, I have experienced the error condition, that I have already expressed, way, way too many times, on this forum. Call me crazy, but this is happening, on my computer, anyway……….. Could anyone possibly expound on what may be happening here, and especially the relationship of the two websites, and how they may relate to each other, when being accessed from the same system, at the same time ??????????? (again, I hope this will help to get the problem solved)

Yes, you are nailing it. It's not really locked, to the point of having to use Task Manager, to kill IE, although, I did, the first several times. But yes, likewise, sometimes mine works perfectly, and then it will turn around and lock up, or freeze, or whatever it is termed. There seems to be no rhyme nor reason, as to when it will, or won't work properly. And yes, the "back up", or refresh, will usually cause the page to continue loading, even after getting the error tone and message. Now, before I sent this message, I went back and tried the NO Add-Ons version. I GIVE UP - this time it worked, but so has the Add-Ons enabled version. Again, there is just no rhyme nor reason, or predictable pattern. I can't make it do the same thing, with any predictability.......???