Mopar, i have to agree with you on the harder terrain and easier find thing. the real outdoorsman would be the person to reach the spot, not nescessarily the one who would comb the leaves for a microcache. but still when we are in an urbanized area the only way to get a hard cache is the shear difficulty in its hiding. lets take that ammo can and put it 50 ft up in a tree or down inside that old sewer pipe - just not in big old hollow tree trunks! theyres not much fun in geocaching when every single cache is indentical!!!
and sorry etoast im not at all an authority on bike trips if thats what you mean by "input" though i wish i could help. caching is the only reason im making such trips now, and the longest being under 20 miles. I enjoy going riding down a ski slope more than pedaling endlessly down a road.
[This message was edited by Mike Riccobono on February 13, 2003 at 02:56 PM.]