Packanack

love driving around and scooping up every 1.5 / 1.5 cache in the area] Which leads to the question, does anyone have a list of caches like that. The easiest ones to do. Veterans Point, I had to walk 10 feet, I think I will go t the rest area on the Parkway and find that one, might have to walk 10 feet, Preferably ones where you don't even have to leave the car, like Rt. 23 Art Gallery. Hey its all part of the game.

it is a metes and bounds description. (Sometimes referred to as a legal description) In order to read you need the POB, which is point of beginning. You walk a survey from POB using compass directions, which are set forth on the paper, but much more detailed than your Silva or Brunton handheld. They are set out with a transit, modern transits are laser instruments with computer assist. Surveys also reference back to the Benchmarks and Survey Disk, look in Benchmark hunting. You can only place if you have the full description laying our the filed map and the references. A survey must always close, which means as you walk it , you will come back to the POB. I see no POB on that map. So the answer is no, you can't place corners with what you have there. The directions are compass and the other measurements are in feet. You could probably walk it with a gps, using the compass headings, but remember the accuracy factor. A laser and a tape measure are far more accurate.

Avroair:I placed a cache yesterday in Wayne , awaiting approval that is offset from There Was a Babbling Brook, both are Suburban Park PuzzlesThere was a Babbling Brook, Thus far only a few good cachers have visited Babbling Brook and none of them have done it in one shot. They do the first stage and then have to go home and study the maps, to figure out how to get to stage 2. Oh, I know they would say differently, but that is my take. I think there are about 10 more of this type of park in this town alone. So I think looking for hidden parks may be a factor, to keep it interesting. I frequently only have a 2 hour window or a lunch hour to "go for a walk". I am sure others fall into same category.

Push the book button, scroll down to database, enter and scroll to user (first item) enter. Scroll to desired waypoint.

You are right, I forgot for a minute that you were dealing with Long Islanders. The deal, the deal within the deal, the deal during the deal and the deal after the deal. Will the rule book be downloadable in PDF format ?

The Nuclear Non Proliferation Treaty was settled with less talk.

KB wins the prize. A truly fascinating story with parallels to modern America. There also was a similar equally destructive explosion in Lyndhurst and I believe in Wayne around the same time. Now if virtual caches were still in vogue, this would be an excellent one. Any other history buffs?

Look on the map, does anyone know the significance of "Black Tom", an historic event took place at that location early in the century, for history buffs, I wonder if it is accessible to public. By the way your entire life has not been a lie, a prevarication, a deception, an exageration perhaps but not a lie. It is just that the French have always liked NJ better Why we even have a town called Frenchtown, which is cache free:lol:

You log your name only, there are youth protection standards that apply to internet postings. You put your name with Troop #. If any of the Scouts later become interested they sign up on their own. There are also parameters as to where they can go. No mines, no caves, must have two deep leadership. etc. etc.

Such enticing descriptions also, don't stick your hands in cause there might be copperheads, rattlesnakes, spitting cobras, rats and spiders. If they don't get you then the bears will, or maybe that mysterious animal whose tracks can't be identified, but screaches like a banshee and scares large (very large) dogs will get you. Wear HIVIZ, cause there will be people shooting too. If you got bad knees prepare to medevac, do you remember the number for 911. Finally, if you have never made a National Geographic trans Africa trek you might want to rethink this one, oh, BTW is your will up to date. Yepper I see this series as a must do for a 55 yo guy. Hmm maybe Friday. Dear would you pass me the remote.

Those were the ones I had in mind, what now becomes of the listings. What should be done about old listings. He still has a number of listings, one of which is on an Island. There are a few more that I suspect are abandoned.

I am working this early Sat AM, my office is only a couple of blocks from Weasel Brook, named by the way for a geocacher who would never log DNF. I think I will go over and check for good spots for a cache. Maybe on WALK YOUR PIT BULL HERE TRAIL., or better yet, on MAKE YOUR DRUG DEAL HERE TRAIL. or on CANADA GOOSE GREASE EVERWHERE TRAIL. Weasel Brook does not strike me as a good location, But maybe that last one,hmmmm

Today's Record--Hackensack carries story of Bear killing Pony in Andover. Dragged it 400 yards.

Have fun. I have worked in Clifton for 30 years, oh my gawd I am really getting old, of course I was just a baby when I started. Lots of lunchtime caches right around Clifton.

Northern New Jersey- Which is above the Raritan. Object trying to find the oldest, mangiest or abandoned caches. Purpose mitigation of Geolitter. Forum readers know that there have been problems with a few abandoned caches. The object of this event (Competition) is to find the oldest cache or the one last visited in antiquity, go to it check it, log it and report its condition to the owner. If the cache needs to be archived, report it. If the cache is in need of replacement or removal report it. Log your results at the cache page and then report your totals and or results here. On July 1, 2005 , we announce the winner in our categories. Oldest Cache Visited. Longest time since Last Find. Finder of an actual abandoned cache. Inspiration comes being lead to a wonderful spot that was last cache logged in August 04, and the idea that pressure is building against public land being used for caching in any largely self regulating fashion. And it might just be fun. Rules--Gotta have em. Can't relog a cache,and can't be your own.10 points for each month since last find x's terrain difficulty gives you the cache score. Add 20 points for trash out. Add 20 points for picture of trash out. Add 20 points for picture of you in a hat other than a baseball cap. So if you have been there before, don't go back. This is listed as a CITO Event, so bring a plastic bag with you. I had submitted the above for approval, but in checking our cache pages I wasn't convinced it was a go, so I disabled it, then archived it, it did not get approved, it was out there for awhile 4 or 5 days waiting approval, I called it Everything Old is new again.

Bigger cache containers do not always equate to better caches.

We had actually bandied about a cito competition to check old caches, in connection with that discussion, I had prepared something for approval, but before it was reviewed I archived it because in checking the 76 pages of available caches there were comparatively few that were not visited in the last 90 days. pfennigan or hennigan had about 4 or 5 , Briansnat had several. One common strand was the walk factor, they are hike caches. Being that as it may, I will make it my point to visit at least one over this weekend. I walked down to "Chick Falls " a couple of weeks ago and that was a nice spot. Even if there were no chicks.

I thought it was self evident. But some people must always Try to be nice to our animal friendsl

Another thing to remember animal sightings are rare and encounters even more so. I usually see deer running away and that seems to be normal.

That was what I thought, at first. But then I said, nah, she is just making a point of letting me know that she sees me. I knew she wasn't just being "friendly" I am not that good looking. But hey, that is just me. I also thought it funny when my hand got stuck in the stonewall. I was wondering how I was gonna explain that to the Fire Department, and was hoping that I wouldn't be a feature on the 6PM news. I may go for my walk again there at lunch, maybe I'll take a photo, it just struck me as being too close. This time I am taking my watch off.

http://www.adirondackjourney.com/Bear_Bags.htm NY has now decided that hikers, campers in the Eastern High Peaks must use bear resistant containers. Bears are now becoming an issue there. As territory becomes more crowded in NJ they will become more of an issue, they will become garbage bears, which seems to be now happening in Wayne,NJ, the quintessential suburban community. Some recommend that if confronting a bear that you remove your back or day pack and if needed sacrifice it to the bear if it is intent on coming on. They also recommend that it be held high to give an appearance of size. I've never had to test either theory.

So I went down to Brookdale Park at lunch to try a couple there. First off there is a tree, no big deal. Then I go over to Stonewall, where the cache is hidden in some rodent hole between the rocks in the stone wall. You have to see this wall, you have a choice of about 200 rodent dens. I started a systematic search. At hole number 5 or 6 I of course stick my left hand in and of course it is just tight enough to wedge around my watch band, so now I can't get my hand out, gps'r in right hand, left hand stuck by watchband in the wall, I am bent over cause I was searching the low holes. 5 minutes later and 6 staring joggers and dog walkers After I free myself and say I'll be back I go down the way to the third find. And here I am just about in the driveway and under (literally within 50 feet) the kitchen window of a park neighbor. I am trying to be nonchalant and was pretty cool until I saw the lady wave. I think I am going to stick to the woods from now on. Have you ever had a cache that you crossed off cause you didn't feel comfortable about it being so close to someone's house.

True confession time. I bought my son a unit for Christmas, It was a lousy unit,total waste of money, so now I am thinking of getting him a new unit. And thus another gear junkie is born.

What is the most expensive consumer landuse handheld unit on the market ? Does anyone know. That type of unit will normally be a big seller for there are those consumers who will always buy beyond their needs. The entire automotive marketing science was developed with that in mind years ago. It has become the model for all subsequent marketing designs. Hobbiest are easy to sell to , they have passion and are easily lead into believing that they can't do without something. Look at golfers, they all have at least 12 putters. Why I bet some cachers have more than one unit, and they will claim they need a backup.

No I was offering this as an example of a type of irresponsible user group. My experience and my "sense" tells me that Geocachers and Hikers usually do not fall into irresponsible user groups. Mid night dumpers in my estimation almost always fall into an irresponsible user group, capable of doing far more damage, thus requiring far more attention. Proportionality, a concept lost to the ages--now it is a dog and pony show. all sizzle no steak, all blow and no go. Minor issue, minor response or no response needed because it was a manufactured issue to begin with. Adequate private sector safeguards were in place through the website and the community, therefore expensive public resources need not be diverted to the activity. I can just see some ranger at Harriman volunteering to go after caches like the rest of us, just because it is fun. Supervisor, I need a volunteer to go after caches, and they all say they want to do it. The issue of how the DEPE in NJ responds to user groups is a different issue.