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  1. Supposedly still in play to end of may
  2. 1.Don't use ammo can in description on page. 2. Engrave with one of those electronic engravers from Radio Shack identifyer inside top cover 3. Tie them down with a rope or chain. 4. Make ammon can caches member only 5. Don't stick them in urban areas, put them out in the woods. I have had several go away. A couple were in an area heavily used by ATVers, who I understand like to use them on their racks for gear. So if ATV use is apparent in area go plastic. People who want to grab an ammo can go for low fruit, so stick them out in the woods. Same idea making them members only, guy who is looking to grab ammo can is not likely to pay 30 bucks for the privilege or expend much energy walking out to grab it and walking back. Tie it down, I had a couple go down river I am convinced in hindsight due to flooding, so any that I placed in a flood area I would rope to a tree . It got to the point that it just became easier to go lok n lok I also kind of got to the point where I thought that some of them just remain in the field too long and that inventory should be rotated, so some I picked up.
  3. I share your sentiments to some degree and, like you, I'm maintaining a couple of puzzle caches that haven't been found in more than two years. I was actually planning on leaving this puzzle alone until someone figured it out eventually but I know for a fact that the few avid puzzle solvers in my area are totally stumped and interest has waned. In fact, someone is probably more likely to stumble upon the container by accident (and it's very well hidden, I assure you) rather than by solving the puzzle. With the promise of a hint or two, interest in the puzzle has picked up and I've been receiving queries from a number of newer cachers which I consider to be a positive sign. As a puzzle CO, it's a lot more satisfying knowing that people are actively trying to solve your puzzle rather than ignoring it completely. I admit that I am local to Harry Dolphin and have been paying attention and actually solving some of his puzzles. But he tends to understate the difficulty of some of his very clever and creative caches, so if anything the difficulty should rise the fewer the finders.
  4. Trek dual Sport , 700 wheels and tires allow for subtle adjustments between road and trail. It is difficult to match one bike to all uses. A group of us rode the CO Canal towpath last fall , we went with 700 x 35 tires, but only one had front shock, i think it would have helped., lots of chatter on towpath
  5. I am of an age where they recommend that we work on neuroplasticity. I am doing that with Harry Dolphin /Andy Bear puzzles. Last week I did it with PMolan puzzles, it is fun and my neuros remain plastic. I also continued to cache because somewhere in the mix I got to meet some like minded folks who are just great people to be with--social interaction is a nice part of this game.
  6. If you really want to be inconspicuous , come back when no one is around. There is nothing to say that you have to stay until you find the cache. Fact is , there are some bad hides which will serve only to raise the attention of neighbors. I have literally seen a cache hidden in the window box outside a restaurant.In a storm drain on the main street in town. When we pulled up on that one , a cacher was going from tree to tree shaking each one on the street, my friend and I made the find and beat it out of there, the next cacher explained himself to the police. He was not inconspicuos. We have inumerable caches on private property in the form of LPC hidden under surveilance cameras. If you are at the game long enough you will at some point be explaining your presence to a police officer. I was arm deep reaching into rock hide in NYC, when I hear "What are you doing ?" I thought it was my friend, so I replied sharply, What do you think I am doing Einstein ?, only to be told pull your hand out slowly and produce your identification and explain what you are doing ? The officer actually ran me for wants and warrants, as my companion could barely contain his laughter. I am not doing anything wrong , so I dont much worry about it, but you have to know that a stream of people coming into a neighborhood or area in a short period of time will attract someones attention. We live in a time when even the most gently soul is viewed suspiciously. That is why some people will refuse all help from a stranger even when they desperately need it. And then there are the Radio and TV ads going 24/7 See Something Say Something, which is nothing more that a way of making people more suspicious of other people. Driving fear is all they do.
  7. Stewart State Park, NY There is no automobile access, it is foot or bike or snowmobile in winter. The roads and trails are not clearly defined in some areas , so it it a fun place to get lost in. [ The park is 6700 total acres, the roads are not really road, there are 22 miles of fire roads, 18 miles of trails. It is prime biking area and the roads are not paved and there are no houses, buidlings, stores or the like, it is hardly saturated, I have been there on mtn bike a couple of times and haven't even put a dent in it. The caching is largely along the fire roads and trails because it is a big area for hunters.
  8. In order for them to make a real killing they would have to bring back virtuals. But seriously, it is their business and we wish them success.I do agree with the comments that point out that Groundspeak is a business as some equate it with a geocaching parent organization similar to a club, that it is not. I suspect that over at the foundering other commercial listing site, owned by a prominent maker of gps equipment someone thought that there was more in it than the actual. Why else would they have jumped into it.
  9. The photo is the final location of a Harry Dolphin/Andy Bear puzzle, it really is spectacular on site. I started doing some puzzles in the fall after returning from vacation on Cape Cod, I was somewhat disappointed in the offerings up there this year. Unimaginative nanos, obviously soft coording and poorly maintained. While it was fun to pick up a few numbers and ride the bike to find them, the overall was somewhat mediocre. On returning home I decided to dive into some Harry Dolphin/Andy Bear puzzle caches which are regarded as being among the best local puzzles. Most local eschew them entirely due to the difficulty anc the mental gymnastics involved. But they grow on you and you get a great sense of satisfaction when you get the OK from geochecker. They are varied and the final locations are almost universally spectacular. I have also gotten into some PMolan puzzles of late and his caches along with Dolphin/Bear cause me to shake my head and marvel at their creative juices. It is a whole new game.
  10. I have ben following this very interesting thread for a few days and trying to wrap around it. I was struck by the notion of childishness versus childlike. Plenty of the former, little of the latter. But it reminded me of the great book of about 20 years back, All I really needed to know I learned in Kindergarten. Pay attention to Number 2 and you will get along fine: Share everything. Play fair. Don't hit people. Put things back where you found them. Clean up your own mess. Don't take things that aren't yours. Say you're sorry when you hurt somebody. Wash your hands before you eat. Flush. Warm cookies and cold milk are good for you. Live a balanced life - learn some and think some and draw and paint and sing and dance and play and work every day some. Take a nap every afternoon. When you go out into the world, watch out for traffic, hold hands, and stick together. Be aware of wonder. Remember the little seed in the styrofoam cup: The roots go down and the plant goes up and nobody really knows how or why, but we are all like that. Goldfish and hamsters and white mice and even the little seed in the Styrofoam cup - they all die. So do we. And then remember the Dick-and-Jane books and the first word you learned - the biggest word of all - LOOK. Everything you need to know is in there somewhere. The Golden Rule and love and basic sanitation. Ecology and politics and equality and sane living. Take any of those items and extrapolate it into sophisticated adult terms and apply it to your family life or your work or your government or your world and it holds true and clear and firm. Think what a better world it would be if all - the whole world - had cookies and milk about three o'clock every afternoon and then lay down with our blankies for a nap. Or if all governments had a basic policy to always put thing back where they found them and to clean up their own mess. And it is still true, no matter how old you are - when you go out into the world, it is best to hold hands and stick together. © Robert Fulghum, 1990.
  11. The empire strikes back, a virtual on observation deck of empire state building. West side greenway, or bikeway , Central park.
  12. My Goal is to solve and find all of the Harry Dolphin puzzle caches in NY and NJ. I am having a great time attaining this goal.
  13. We did have a little of that locally on 12/12/12. I think there were 6 events and they were geographically disparate, so that people in Northern NJ could attend one or another as could people in Southern NJ. Part of our problem locally is that we tend to remain pure in our approach to the game. We had a local custom whereby one cacher sponsoring an event would not step on any other event date. So if BrianSnat had an event on May 1, and I was planning for May 1 and his published first I would move my date. That system allowed for a flow of events. Several years back we had several group hikes (actually about 100 of them) and none of them were called events, although some people felt that I should sponsor them as an event so a smiley could be gotten. I never saw that point as we were hiking and finding caches as we went. I have to join the group that is against the idea of stacking events for just another number. BTW, See my post in Midlatic forum regarding cacher of the year/ aka BrianSnat. We here in NJ are happy that a guy like Brian has been a mentor to our game. His informed and rational and personable approach has allowed our local game to evolve collegially.
  14. There are some who wonder how the cacher of the year award is determined. I don't wonder, cause I don't really care. Same guy wins it every year. It is overblown if you ask me. But what is not overblown are New York New Jersey Trail Conference Awards celebrating Volunteers. http://www.nynjtc.org/files/documents/TW-Winter13_12-14.pdf On Page 6 of Winter 2013 Trailwalker there is a Trail Conference volunteer for over 17 years who is being awarded. Check it out, BrianSnat is that award recipient and should be congratulated. I just wish he would stop using a 20 year old photo. Congratualations !!!!
  15. Wow. What a dumb rule. We have a guy around here that is approaching 400 hides in two years. He drives right past his missing/disabled film can hides to hide another 20 film cans down the same road. And you think that I'm not allowed to criticize him because he has over twice as many hides as me? Read my statement in its entirety, especially the part that says: do not be too quick to criticize Then read the part that says: Take it slowly and kindly then read the part about: No hiders= no finders Then , and only then I make my tongue in cheek remark on the rule, ( as can be seen from the emoticon). But the real gist is that all the complainers should take it down a notch before they go off. Sometimes a direct approach can work wonders as in : an e mail to the owner saying I was at your cache the other day, it was damaged, or wet . sorry for you if this appears "Dumb" to you
  16. Ooh, I was so close to agreeing with you, right up until that last line. One fundamental problem with cache maintenance is having people hide way more caches than they can deal with. Besides, if I could only criticize people with fewer hides than me, I wouldn't get much opportunity, now would I? Funny how that works. The older I get the more I realize how human I have been, warts, faults, mistakes, misteps , failings and that causes me to not be as critical as I was way back when I was in my 20s and had all the answers. I think the approach of helping out is a good one. Personally, if my caches need maint, I try and go pick them up entirely , archive them and place a new one somewhere else, keeps the number crunchers happy and if they are happy they don't complain about me as much.
  17. This issue comes up periodically, and when it does I do a quick look see for the OP's hide history and in this instance I can only say, do not be too quick to criticize. You have been in the hide game for 3 months. Take it slowly and kindly. No hiders = no finders. Recent events locally have caused some of our most prolific hiders to say enough is enough and stop hiding, some of which was due to criticism that was really unwarranted. I have a rule that says you don't get to criticize anyone with more hides than you.
  18. Long /short Virtuals have been part of Geocaching from early on. Groundspeak the website business is trying to develop a division that uses the containerless cache concept and hasn't gotten it to the point where it sells to an acceptable level for resources employed. One thing that does come through in these discussions is that some would like to run everyone else's game. They say " Don't count them, Wow Factor, Ensure the integrity of the loggin". Who cares about how anyone else plays the game and who is to say how I or any other person should play this game. Who cares if I pick up a guardrail magnet cache on my way home or ride my bike 120 miles for a single cache, as long as they meet guidelines they are in and they count just the same.
  19. "There will never exist one approach that pleases everyone. Those for whom it is essential that virtuals count as finds, are typically those for whom quality is not an important aspect. So there will be no way to keep the number of lame submissions within tolerable limits without a review process taking into account quality which is not a feasible approach." The above statement is about as broad an unsupported generalized statement as can be imagined.
  20. How much does Lloyds of London insure those babies for ?
  21. There is a group of us who have have done many caches on Bicycle. I did the iconic 5 Star New York in NYC on bike. New York City, Washington,DC, Cape Cod, Delaware, Rail Trails all present caching opportunities . In the spring we will do the Pine Creek Rail Trail in Pennsylvania, rated as one of the top 10 rail trails in the nation. But this past Octover we undertook the C&O Canal Towpath and we rode 120 miles for one cache. Now there is a place just screaming for virtuals. That ride was so great that we are planning on returning next year. Why walk when you can ride.
  22. I can't quite tell if these questions are rhetorical? 1. The "wow factor" was in the guidelines by July 02. You can find old guideline versions on the internet. The Nov 03 version actually used the phrase, "Since the reward for a virtual cache is the location, the location should "WOW" the prospective finder". The Nov 03 version was quite a bit longer, with more about "place a physical" and more about the need for "wow" to be virt worthy. Below the July 02 virt section 2. Yes, it was in Nov 05 guidelines. The Waymarking site was up, and Locationless owners had been invited to move their caches over as new Waymarking categories. Earthcaches moved over to Waymarking as well. Existing virts and webcams were allowed to stay on as a grandfathered type, but no new ones. (Earthcaches moved back to GC.com at some later time). 3. I don't have the GC Code for sneaker in a bush, although I do recall the forum thread about it. Here's link to one that was a turtle shell + bones (turtle carcass along a trail) http://coord.info/GC7E8A I personally know of some even weaker virts, still active, including one we found last year (inside a restaurant), but I'm not going to link to them.... 1.should WOW the finder is not the equivalent of a reviewer requiring a WOW factor , in much the same way that a reviewer should not impose his or her personal views on a traditional. Locally we are having an ongoing issue when the reviewer attempts to impose safety and quality standards . To the point that some of our more prolific hiders have stopped hiding. 2. That does not mean or even imply that Groundspeak won't return to virtuals in some permutation or another. 3. The logs on the cache you noted belie your point as people received that cache , some stating it was very nice and others saying it was awesome. It had generally favorble logs and was also a 2002 placement , very early in the evolving game. way marking became the product 8/05. Groundspeak would not be expected to undercut their own launch by continuing virtual caches while they were selling the product of way marking. I suspect they will not abandon the field of container less caches but will eventually get it right to the satisfaction of their core customer in a form where it is a viable element of their business. virtuals as a category or new listing have been off site for longer than they were on and yet they retain an allure for cachers, compile great numbers of favorite marks and Groundspeak has tried to tweak the market in two instances with challenges and way marking , I suspect they are not just going to let it go.
  23. Can anyone point to the specific place where the "wow" factor was set forth ? Can anyone cite to the specific place where Groundspeak nixed Virtuals for eternity? Can anyone point to the so called carcass in the woods cache or the sneaker cache ? Most people speak in general terms regarding this topic with out pointing to the specifics. Others insist beyond logic or reason that a virtual cache can not be because there is no container and no paper log with is the very definition of a "geocache" . Groundspeak is a business, and it is for us a good thing. We probably would not be able to play our game on such a widespread basis were it not for the success of Groundspeak. I can get in my car drive 500 miles away and have the diversion of my game. I wish Groundspeak every continued success for if they fail, the game as I know it will fall apart. They have in my view attempted to enhance their business position by developing containerless location games. They have not done well, in my view , because they did not capture the fancy of their core customer--Geocachers. If they do, they will succeed. But in order to do that they need to develop a website to draw advertisers and sponsors and clicks and views. So have a Virtual Cache website, tie accounts together, have premium member licensing to place virtuals, give the smilie and have counts appear and in my view we are again off and running. But at the end of the day the presence or lack of virtuals is not going to materially affect the enjoyment I get from the game. Hoping that we all get to enjoy our game in the coming year. It is just a trifle naive to expect a sophisticated business to not to seek to exploit the virtual resource to enhance its profit position. I celebrate their attempts and hope they can ultimately find the formula. But I do not expect them to give it for free along with Geocaching.
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