dennyhenderson

In Bobcat 2000 Create new folder was in the edit menu, and it works. In Bobcat 2001 Create new folder is in the file menu and it is always greyed out. If you have both installed you can create the folder in 2000 and it will show up in 2001 after restarting it. Bobcat should not be classified as Beta, It's still Alpha quality as far as I am concerned. Many features are not implemented or are severely broken and buggy.

I wrote this up and sent it in to the mac.bobcat@garmin.com address. And actually received a reply. See below. "Thank you for reporting your findings to Garmin. As you mentioned this software is kind of a "pre-beta", but I should note that the issue with street names not appearing is an issue and is currently be fixed. Please look for a new version of Bobcat to be released soon which should fix these issues. Best regards, Brian Garmin Engineering"

Hopefully they will integrate Mapinstall into Bobcat when it gets closer to a release version.

Actually Bobcat does not send Maps. You need to use Garmin MapInstall for that. However before you can do that you must use MapManager to install the maps on your mac. However before MapManager can work you must use MapConverter on a PC to convert the PC fprmat maps to MAC format. However before that you must ust Garmin's DVD or CD to install the Maps on the PC. Lengthy process and not without some hoops to traverse along the way. Bobcat only sends waypoints, routes, and tracks.

Thanks to Dietmar over at the macmap Yahoo group we solved the problem I noted below. If your MAC drives are formatted with the casesensitive option you will likely have the problem I had. And there in lies the solution. Find your *.gmap files MapManager installs them in ~Library/Application Support/Garmin/Maps/ Right click on the .gmap file that does not work From the pop up menu choose View package Contents. In there you will see a file named "Info.xml" Change the name of that file from "Info.xml" to "info.xml" This worked fo me, Dietmar, and a couple of others on the macmap Yahoo forum who had the same problem. Cheers, Denny

I've read that it is only USB.

I think I'll try to find a PC that has only one OS installed and try that first. having two drives one with Vista and one with XP causes some strange things to happen during application installation.

That's good news. I hope they will sell it without an unlock code, since I already have an unlock code for my GPS for the regular version.

hmm Maybe the problem is with the maps I am trying to convert? I am trying to convert CNNANT v8 and CNNANT v2008 thanks

Which Garmin maps do you have installed in your Bobcat installation? And do you know which version of Garmins MapConverter you used to do the conversion on the PC?

The problem with having them in the /user/Library/Applications Support/Garmin/Maps path is that one would need the maps installed for each user, even if they were using the same GPSr. Garmin needs to use the system Library. Their maps get unlocked to a GPS, so there shouldn't be a problem with this. Actually I did some tinkering with this concept. If you open the package of Bobcat, you can find the US Basemap 2.gmap file. Inside the resources. I moved that file out of the package and into 1. ~Library/Application Support/Garmin/Maps And Bobcat and Mapinstall can still read that map just fine. Also tried putting that file into: 2. /Library/Application Support/Garmin/Maps And Bobcat and MapInstall can see it there also. If I move that file to the Desktop and start Bobcat it gives the error that no maps are installed and will not launch. That experiment is what leads me to believe that the problem I have is being caused by the map conversion process on the PC. Since the CN files are there but are not recognized. Also tried moving the Unlock code from folder 1 to Folder 2 and the unlock codes are being recognized in either location.

Yes, I used the version of MapManager that comes with the Bobcat download. I am still thinking that the problem is with the conversion on the PC, but I don't know how to test that part of it.

The files belong in ~/Library/Applications Support/Garmin/Maps NOT in /Library/Application Support/Garmin/Maps. In other words the .gmap file belongs in YOUR library, not the system library. They don't work on my MAC in EITHER location. I tried moving them because of an earlier post in this thread that noted success by using that change. Move them out, move them back Reboot, still are not recognized by Bobcat or by Mapinstall.

I am having trouble with this conversion/installation process with my maps. Can anyone give me some suggestions to troubleshoot this? Powerbook G4 1.67 2 GB Ram 10.4.11 PC with Vista on C:\ or XP on D:\available What i've done. At first the MapConverter program was giving an error when converting the maps during the compression stage. I reinstalled Mapsource/ CN v8 and ran the CN v2008 updater within the Visa install. That allowed the Mapconverter to run OK and created the .tgz files. I can move those to the Mac OK Decompress those, yeilds the .gmapi files MapManager runs and installs the .gmap files in ~Library/Application Support/Garmin/Maps I tried moving those files to /Library/Application Support/Garmin/Maps still nothing Bobcat shows my Unlock codes installed properly. no matter which of the above directories that file is in. but says no map product installed. I am thinking the trouble is with the MapConverter program on the PC, but really don't know what else to try there in order to get results. Any suggestions will be appreciated. Thanks, Denny

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I am interested in GPS for reasons similar to you. But I want some of the bells and whistles. I have temporarily settled on the Zumo 550. But i still am looking about. I have questions about the garmin software for making route files. I currently use MS Streets and Trips then print out hard copies to put in my tank bag pocket. I also need to print out maps to share with others since I lead group rides a few times each season. So does the Garmin software do a decent job of preparing maps for printing? Streets and trips is not that good but it is certainly better than nothing. I still have many questions, but that is the one I want to get past before I start investigating other choices. Thanks for any info you might have to share.