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It should be there, I drove in a NGS witness post in 2001. There was and probably still is a locked gate across the road from the west. I recall back then they had problems with people dumping here so hence the gate was put in.

Anything the DOT had would be in the state archives in Lansing and buried in field notes, if its even there. I got a MCM map of other control... https://www.dropbox.com/s/y7arc2vpfvuxf59/MCM map.pdf?dl=0 Don't know Buda, heard of him but when I was working, I recall he was the computer survey guru at MTU? He was doing the assessor plats for a local surveyor on Quincy Hill and there was a conflict with the US-41 ROW. So our PLS had to go show him where they missed a jog in the ROW line. I was going to lay claim to the 1320 x 10 ft strip of land that lain between the ROW and the Plat Line. LOL We (DOT Surveys) helped ID with a GPS class by loaning him the use our GPS equipment and being facilitators, going with the students. I took several out to Tri Sta ARCADIA to show them the field procedures. 2 of the kids in the class had co-oped with us the prior summer.

It was a teaching aide. They were constructed so students could set up on one point and site the tower at another point. Way back in the late 1970's when we were (MDOT) surveying for M26 relocation from the bridge we had in our possession a big old map of these stations. The party chief, JP Smallwood (deceased) lived in Houghton, an CE and LLS for the state DOT for over 40 yrs, also once taught at MCM back in the 50's, knew all about this tech triangulation system. I recall have the big map laying on the drafting table in our office trailer. Matter of fact back in the day the a Prof. at MTU (Prof. J Service) was in charge of Michigan Geodetic Survey work in the area. The Survey dept at MTU would have this info, not the archives. I have no idea who runs that dept now. All the ones I know have died or retired, Chuck Hein RLS from Calumet (deceased), ID retired back to Sri Lanka. http://www.mtu.edu/technology/undergraduate/surveying/faculty/ This one is off Sharon Ave near the Mineral Museum and the MTU CORS (MDOT) station. There was one by the water tank on Ingot st, up from scenic lookout on US41 1/2 way up Quincy Hill, another used to be up at the fair grounds. I say use to be because I have not been by them in years so they may be gone. There used to be one on the Hancock end of the bridge, on top of hill in front of house, up the sidewalk and to the lelf. Gone now but point may still be in, homeowners used it as fire pit. Had to access from thru yard of home. One of Houghton Canal road just past UPPCO on right. Back circa 1979 JPS showed us where all these were. The points may be still there even if the towers are gone. As I recall there were no descriptions for most of them, just the survey map. The NGS Data Sheet PROGRAM = datasheet95, VERSION = 8.12.2 1 National Geodetic Survey, Retrieval Date = SEPTEMBER 6, 2017 SG0220 *********************************************************************** SG0220 DESIGNATION - MCM 91 SG0220 PID - SG0220 SG0220 STATE/COUNTY- MI/HOUGHTON SG0220 COUNTRY - US SG0220 USGS QUAD - CHASSELL (1975) SG0220 SG0220 *CURRENT SURVEY CONTROL SG0220 ______________________________________________________________________ SG0220* NAD 83(1994) POSITION- 47 06 43.99026(N) 088 33 06.00395(W) ADJUSTED SG0220* NAVD 88 ORTHO HEIGHT - 274. (meters) 899. (feet) SCALED SG0220 ______________________________________________________________________ SG0220 GEOID HEIGHT - -33.961 (meters) GEOID12B SG0220 LAPLACE CORR - -19.10 (seconds) DEFLEC12B SG0220 HORZ ORDER - FIRST SG0220 SG0220.The horizontal coordinates were established by classical geodetic methods SG0220.and adjusted by the National Geodetic Survey in February 1997. SG0220. SG0220.The orthometric height was scaled from a topographic map. SG0220 SG0220.Significant digits in the geoid height do not necessarily reflect accuracy. SG0220.GEOID12B height accuracy estimate available here. SG0220 SG0220.The Laplace correction was computed from DEFLEC12B derived deflections. SG0220 SG0220. The following values were computed from the NAD 83(1994) position. SG0220 SG0220; North East Units Scale Factor Converg. SG0220;SPC MI N - 260,005.927 7,882,240.356 MT 1.00000718 -1 07 17.5 SG0220;SPC MI N - 853,037.82 25,860,368.62 iFT 1.00000718 -1 07 17.5 SG0220;UTM 16 - 5,218,802.827 382,281.829 MT 0.99977031 -1 08 13.3 SG0220 SG0220! - Elev Factor x Scale Factor = Combined Factor SG0220!SPC MI N - 0.99996238 x 1.00000718 = 0.99996956 SG0220!UTM 16 - 0.99996238 x 0.99977031 = 0.99973270 SG0220 SG0220: Primary Azimuth Mark Grid Az SG0220:SPC MI N - WHEAL KATE 2 243 17 03.2 SG0220:UTM 16 - WHEAL KATE 2 243 17 59.0 SG0220 SG0220_U.S. NATIONAL GRID SPATIAL ADDRESS: 16TCT8228118802(NAD 83) SG0220 SG0220|---------------------------------------------------------------------| SG0220| PID Reference Object Distance Geod. Az | SG0220| dddmmss.s | SG0220| SG0233 WHEAL KATE 2 APPROX. 9.5 KM 2420945.7 | SG0220| SG0216 MCM 83 APPROX. 3.4 KM 2623205.7 | SG0220|---------------------------------------------------------------------| SG0220 SG0220 SUPERSEDED SURVEY CONTROL SG0220 SG0220 NAD 83(1986)- 47 06 43.98620(N) 088 33 05.98023(W) AD( ) 1 SG0220 NAD 27 - 47 06 44.25200(N) 088 33 05.53000(W) AD( ) 1 SG0220 SG0220.Superseded values are not recommended for survey control. SG0220 SG0220.NGS no longer adjusts projects to the NAD 27 or NGVD 29 datums. SG0220.See file dsdata.pdf to determine how the superseded data were derived. SG0220 SG0220_MARKER: B = BOLT SG0220_SETTING: 66 = SET IN ROCK OUTCROP SG0220_MAGNETIC: N = NO MAGNETIC MATERIAL SG0220_STABILITY: A = MOST RELIABLE AND EXPECTED TO HOLD SG0220+STABILITY: POSITION/ELEVATION WELL SG0220_SATELLITE: THE SITE LOCATION WAS REPORTED AS SUITABLE FOR SG0220+SATELLITE: SATELLITE OBSERVATIONS - June 27, 2008 SG0220 SG0220 HISTORY - Date Condition Report By SG0220 HISTORY - 1939 MONUMENTED CGS SG0220 HISTORY - 1977 GOOD NGS SG0220 HISTORY - 1986 GOOD SG0220 HISTORY - 1990 GOOD NGS SG0220 HISTORY - 19940901 GOOD NGS SG0220 HISTORY - 20010503 GOOD MIDT SG0220 HISTORY - 20020213 GOOD WILCOX SG0220 HISTORY - 20080627 GOOD MIDT SG0220 SG0220 STATION DESCRIPTION SG0220 SG0220'DESCRIBED BY COAST AND GEODETIC SURVEY 1939 (FBQ) SG0220'ABOUT 3/4 MILE SOUTH OF HOUGHTON. SPECIAL IRON PIPE INNER SG0220'AND OUTER TOWER HAS BEEN PERMANENTLY ESTABLISHED OVER THIS SG0220'STATION BY THE MICHIGAN COLLEGE OF MINES. IT IS 0.4 MILE SG0220'WEST OF THE MAIN GATE OF THE CEMETERY ON CEMETERY ROAD, 30 SG0220'FEET SOUTH OF THE CENTER OF THE ROAD, 19-1/2 FEET NORTHWEST SG0220'OF A POWER LINE POLE, 80 FEET EAST-NORTHEAST OF ANOTHER POLE SG0220'AND 1 FOOT SOUTH OF THE RIGHT-OF-WAY FENCE. THE MARK IS A SG0220'1-INCH COPPER BOLT CEMENTED INTO THE BED ROCK, AND PROJECTS SG0220'1-1/2 INCHES ABOVE THE BED ROCK. SG0220' SG0220'NO ADDITIONAL MARKS WERE ESTABLISHED. SG0220' SG0220'TO REACH FROM SPERR HALL AT THE INTERSECTION OF COLLEGE SG0220'AVENUE AND CEMETERY ROAD, DRIVE UP HILL FOR 0.4 MILE ON SG0220'CEMETERY ROAD TO THE CEMETERY GATE, TURN RIGHT ON A GRAVEL SG0220'ROAD AND DRIVE 0.4 MILE TO THE STATION AT THE LEFT (SOUTH) SG0220'SIDE OF THE ROAD. SG0220' SG0220'HEIGHT OF LIGHT ABOVE STATION MARK - 20 METERS. SG0220 SG0220 STATION RECOVERY (1977) SG0220 SG0220'RECOVERY NOTE BY NATIONAL GEODETIC SURVEY 1977 (WOM) SG0220'STATION MARK AND THE FOUNDATIONS FOR THE STEEL TOWER WERE SG0220'RECOVERED. NO REFERENCE MARKS WERE SET AT THIS STATION. SG0220' SG0220'TO REACH FROM THE INTERSECTION OF COLLEGE AVENUE (U.S. HIGHWAY SG0220'41) AND PEARL STREET IN HOUGHTON, GO SOUTH ON PEARL STREET FOR SG0220'0.1 MILE, THENCE EAST ON HOUGHTON AVENUE FOR 0.05 MILE TO GARNET SG0220'STREET. TURN RIGHT, SOUTH, ON GARNET STREET AND GO 0.45 MILE SG0220'TO TOP OF HILL AND A T-ROAD. TURN LEFT AND GO EAST ON GRAVELED SG0220'STREET (SHARON ROAD) FOR 0.1 MILE TO THE STATION ON THE RIGHT, SG0220'JUST BEFORE THE ROAD DROPS OFF SHARPLY TO THE EAST AND A SMALL SG0220'DIRT PULL OUT AREA ON THE LEFT. SG0220' SG0220'STATION IS A 1-INCH COPPER BOLT CEMENTED INTO THE BEDROCK AND SG0220'PROJECTS 1 INCH ABOVE THE ROCK. IT IS 30 FEET SOUTH OF THE SG0220'CENTER OF SHARON ROAD, 19 FEET NW OF A POWER LINE POLE AND 5.7 SG0220'FEET NW OF THE REMAINS OF A 2-INCH IRON PIPE SET IN CONCRETE SG0220'(WAS THE SE LEG OF THE STEEL TOWER MENTIONED IN THE ORIGINAL SG0220'DESCRIPTION). SG0220' SG0220'THIS STATION HAS SOME VISIBILITY TO THE EAST AND WEST, BUT WOULD SG0220'REQUIRE A 77 FOOT TOWER TO CLEAR THE TREES TO THE NORTH. SG0220' SG0220'AIRLINE DISTANCE AND DIRECTION FROM NEAREST TOWN SG0220'IN SE EDGE OF HOUGHTON. SG0220 SG0220 STATION RECOVERY (1986) SG0220 SG0220'RECOVERED 1986 SG0220'RECOVERED IN GOOD CONDITION. SG0220 SG0220 STATION RECOVERY (1990) SG0220 SG0220'RECOVERY NOTE BY NATIONAL GEODETIC SURVEY 1990 (DH) SG0220'RECOVERED IN GOOD CONDITION. SG0220 SG0220 STATION RECOVERY (1994) SG0220 SG0220'RECOVERY NOTE BY NATIONAL GEODETIC SURVEY 1994 (CFS) SG0220'NOTE--CONTACT THE PUBLIC SAFETY OFFICE PRIOR TO OCCUPATION SO THEY CAN SG0220'UNLOCK THE GATE. OFFICE IS MANNED 24 HOURS. STATION IS LOCATED IN SG0220'HOUGHTON, ON MICHIGAN TECH CAMPUS, ON A KNOLL. OWNERSHIP--MICHIGAN SG0220'TECH UNIVERSITY, 1400 TOWNSEND DRIVE, HOUGHTON, MI 49931. PHONE SG0220'906-487-2216 (PUBLIC SAFETY OFFICE) . TO REACH FROM THE JUNCTION OF SG0220'U.S. HIGHWAY 41 AND STATE HIGHWAY 26 IN HOUGHTON, GO SOUTH ON HIGHWAY SG0220'26 FOR 1.6 KM (1.00 MI) TO SHARON AVENUE. TURN LEFT, EAST, ON SHARON SG0220'AVENUE FOR 2.7 KM (1.65 MI) TO GARNET STREET ON THE LEFT. TURN LEFT, SG0220'NORTH, ON GARNET STREET FOR 0.08 KM (0.05 MI) TO A CROSS STREET. TURN SG0220'RIGHT, EAST, ON HICKORY LANE ABOUT 20 M (65.6 FT) TO A GATE. PASS SG0220'THROUGH THE GATE AND CONTINUE EAST ON THE DIRT ROAD FOR 0.08 KM (0.05 SG0220'MI) TO TOP OF KNOLL AND THE STATION ON THE RIGHT. STATION IS A 1 INCH SG0220'COPPER BOLT CEMENTED INTO BED ROCK AND PROJECTING 4 CM ABOVE THE BED SG0220'ROCK. THE BOLT IS UNSTAMPED WITH A PUNCH MARK IN THE CENTER OF AN 'X' SG0220'ETCHED IN TOP OF THE BOLT. IT IS 9.8 M (32.2 FT) SOUTH OF THE CENTER SG0220'OF THE DIRT ROAD AND 2.4 M (7.9 FT) NORTHWEST OF A METAL WITNESS POST. SG0220 SG0220 STATION RECOVERY (2001) SG0220 SG0220'RECOVERY NOTE BY MICHIGAN DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION 2001 (MPR) SG0220'THE MARK IS NOT A COPPER BOLT. IT IS A 1-1/8 INCH HEXAGON STEEL DRILL SG0220'BIT PROJECTING 1-3/4 INCH ABOVE AND SET IN CONCRETE ON BEDROCK. SG0220'REMAINS OF CONCRETE PADS AND PIPES FOR THE (REMOVED) TOWER WERE SG0220'UNCOVERED, THE MARK FITS THE CENTER AND APPEARS OF SIMILAR VINTAGE. SG0220'5.3 FT S OF CARSONITE WITNESS POST, ABOUT 2 FT LOWER THAN LANE. SG0220 SG0220 STATION RECOVERY (2002) SG0220 SG0220'RECOVERY NOTE BY WILCOX ASSOCIATES INC 2002 (SP) SG0220'RECOVERED AS DESCRIBED SG0220 SG0220 STATION RECOVERY (2008) SG0220 SG0220'RECOVERY NOTE BY MICHIGAN DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION 2008 (BLJ) SG0220'RECOVERED IN GOOD CONDITION. *** retrieval complete. Elapsed Time = 00:00:01

I recall back in 1982 when USGS determined that Arvon was higher. There was a story in Houghton newspaper about it. USGS was all over da UP updating maps circa 1982. We ran into their leveling and mapping crews in Gwinn-Palmer area, Baraga, Munising and I heard they were mapping in the Seney Nat'l Wildlife Refuge as well. The chief of the party was originally from the Munising area and I know a person who was working on his crew (HS together) during that time, he later worked for us at the DOT. He did not want go to Florida with them, bugs were bad enough in Seney refuge he said. We had lunch (at Helen's Iron Skillet in Gwinn) with the party chief on one occasion. The mapping crew consisted of just 2 men, rodman on a dirt bike and instrumentman in 4x4 pu. Hired lots of local help. Leveling crew was 4.

Ride was fun, lots showed up. Heavy rain days before cut the dust way down but lots of water on the trails and a few washouts. View is very limited due to the tree's. You can drive to top by car but road is rough in some areas due to wash outs etc. We followed snowmobile trail down old RR grade (never was used) to get there and a remote and rough 2-track trail down hill back. View would be better after leaves are gone. Note - People from all over the world have been there (guest book to sign) but I never been and only live 45 miles away. Can check that off my bucket list!

Picked up a little working as a DOT survey tech for some 30 yrs. Examples of USGS field work...

aka "The old fashioned way"

There is going to be an ORV ride to the top coming up Aug, 19th, 2017. Everyone WELCOME. ORV Ride to the Top of Michigan

Fyi - This info is in this forum somewhere but for those who don't down know. USGS Marks stamped with the prefix "TT" designates "Transit Traverse". Also USGS marks with a 3 letter suffix, the letters are the Crew Chief initials. e.g. 99 MPR

Note - USGS work went on over 100 yrs and they had a habit of reusing mark designations (TT28K) in later years. I know when I search the NGS database for Michigan I often find several USGS marks with identical names in different regions. That also makes is hard to determine the original location. And another thing, some USGS work was not up to current standards (lat, long and elevation are way off actual) and do not warrant any preservation.

I don't think there is any easy way to find info on this if its not in the NGS database. Without a more accurate location (Lat and Long) of where is was set (not found) you would never know to search the reams of data sheets USGS has for the USA. The per-verbal needle in the hay stack. Try contacting USGS-Rolla, MO Office of Communications and Publishing Science Information Services 888-ASK-USGS (275-8747) Contact the USGS on WebChat and "Like" us on FaceBook! Follow @USGS on Twitter, and check our You Tube page. Thematic USGS Social Media sites for States and Topics

Circa 2000 if I recall is the edition. Try this ► NGS Data Explorer Also, some BM's set by other agencies (USGS for instance) may never had been submitted for inclusion in the database.

This is an old pic

I now see 2016 marks as well......one of mine was for 10/16/16. Kind of funny, Pwr Sqd guy found it once but same guy could not find it again a few years later..LOL I spotted the old MWP driving down the old RR grade (now ORV trail) with my RZR at 40 mph RL0702 RL0702 HISTORY - Date Condition Report By RL0702 HISTORY - 1934 MONUMENTED CGS RL0702 HISTORY - 1943 MARK NOT FOUND CGS RL0702 HISTORY - 1978 GOOD USGS RL0702 HISTORY - 1985 GOOD NGS RL0702 HISTORY - 20010615 GOOD USPSQD RL0702 HISTORY - 20040809 MARK NOT FOUND USPSQD RL0702 HISTORY - 20161016 GOOD USGSNP

RL1517 HISTORY - 1871 MONUMENTED USLS So brass frustoms were common back then? I was the first recovery since it was set in 1871 by USLS although a field copy of USGS area map field checked circa 1982 shows it drawn and written on the map at the location. So USGS found it back then when doing quad map update but they never submitted a recovery report.

Years ago (20) we were doing a GPS project in that area and the atlas showed all 1st order marks and I wanted to use it for our project. But the GPS survey boss said it was too hard to get to and would take to long. Never did go look for it. We had a pc program from the NGS advisor that showed marks in Delorme street atlas. I have found one like your picture, another USLS mark and the description does not mention what it is other then a stone post so I did not know what a frustum was. Frustum, the portion of a cone or pyramid that remains after its upper part has been cut off by a plane parallel to its base, or that is intercepted between two such planes. RL1517 DESIGNATION - MIDDLE USLS 1871

HISTORY - Date Condition Report By RK0486 HISTORY - 1955 MONUMENTED CGS RK0486 RK0486 STATION DESCRIPTION RK0486 RK0486'DESCRIBED BY COAST AND GEODETIC SURVEY 1955 RK0486'STATION MARK WAS RECOVERED AND FOUND IN GOOD CONDITION. REFERENCE RK0486'MARKS 1 AND 2 AND AN AZIMUTH MARK WERE ESTABLISHED. RK0486' RK0486'FOLLOWING IS A NEW DESCRIPTION-- RK0486' RK0486'THE STATION IS ALONG THE WESTERN SIDE OF SECTION 31, T. 49 N., R. 25 RK0486'W., ON THE TOP OF A ROCKY MOUNTAIN KNOWN LOCALLY AS HOGSBACK RK0486'MOUNTAIN. IT IS APPROXIMATELY 12 MILES NORTHWEST OF MARQUETTE, 2.5 RK0486'MILES SOUTH-SOUTHWEST OF GRANITE POINT, 1.75 MILES WEST OF RK0486'SUGAR LOAF MOUNTAIN AND ON THE EASTERN ONE OF THREE SEPARATE RK0486'SUMMITS. WEST OF THE STATION ABOUT 1/4 MILE IS A CONICAL SHAPED, RK0486'TIMBER COVERED HILL WHICH, BECAUSE OF THE TIMBER, APPEARS HIGHER RK0486'THAN THE STATION HILL. BETWEEN THIS HILL AND THE STATION HILL RK0486'THERE IS A ROCKY KNOLL SLIGHTLY LOWER THAN THE STATION HILL RK0486'AND SEPARATED FROM THE STATION BY A NARROW VALLEY ABOUT 150 FEET RK0486'WIDE. THE STATION IS ON THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE EASTERN SUMMIT. RK0486'THIS HILL HAS STEEP ROCKY SIDES, A FLAT TOP AND SOME TREES IN THE RK0486'CENTER OF THE TOP. RK0486' RK0486'TO REACH FROM THE UNION NATIONAL BANK AT THE POINT WHERE U.S. HIGHWAY RK0486'41 AND STATE HIGHWAY 28 TURN SOUTH IN THE EASTERN EDGE OF MARQUETTE RK0486'(JUNCTION OF WASHINGTON AND FRONT STREETS), GO NORTH ON FRONT RK0486'STREET FOR 0.9 MILE TO THE END OF THE STREET AND A T-INTERSECTION. RK0486'TURN LEFT ON FAIR AVENUE AND GO 0.2 MILE TO A T-INTERSECTION, RK0486'TURN RIGHT AND GO NORTH ON PRESQUE ISLE 0.5 MILE TO A CROSS RK0486'STREET, TURN LEFT AND GO WEST ON WRIGHT FOR 0.45 MILE TO SUGAR LOAF RK0486'ROAD (ALSO COUNTY ROAD 550). TURN RIGHT AND GO NORTH ON COUNTY RK0486'ROAD 550 FOR 4.0 MILES TO THE PARKING SPACE AT THE FOOT OF SUGAR LOAF RK0486'MOUNTAIN. FROM HERE THERE ARE TWO TRAILS LEADING TO THE SUMMIT RK0486'OF THE MOUNTAIN AND THE AZIMUTH MARK. ONE IS MARKED STEEP CLIMB, RK0486'THE OTHER EASY CLIMB. THE STEEP CLIMB IS FASTER, ABOUT FIFTEEN RK0486'MINUTE PACK TO THE TOP. CONTINUE NORTHWESTERLY ON COUNTY ROAD RK0486'550 FOR 1.1 MILE TO A CROSSROAD, TURN LEFT AND FOLLOW MAIN RK0486'TRAVELLED ROAD WEST-SOUTHWEST FOR 0.9 MILE TO A FORK, TAKE LEFT RK0486'FORK AND GO 0.1 MILE TO A RAILROAD TRACK, CROSS RAILROAD TRACK RK0486'AND CONTINUE ON TRACK ROAD 1.3 MILES TO A FORK AND A U.S.G.S. RK0486'MARK, TURN LEFT AND GO 0.1 MILE TO A FORK, KEEP LEFT FORK, UP HILL RK0486'AND GO 0.15 MILE TO A POINT WHERE THE ROAD CURVES RIGHT AND A RK0486'DRIVEWAY TO A CABIN STRAIGHT AHEAD, CONTINUE EASTERLY ABOUT 100 FEET RK0486'TO THE CABIN AND THE END OF TRUCK TRAVEL. FROM HERE THE RK0486'TREE-COVERED KNOLL IS VISIBLE THROUGH THE TREES, PACK EAST-BY-NORTH, RK0486'PASSING AROUND THE NORTH SIDE OF THE TIMBERED KNOLL, BEAR RK0486'SOUTHEAST TO THE STEEP ROCKY SIDES OF THE RIDGE EAST OF THE RK0486'TIMBERED KNOLL, FOLLOW ALONG THE STEEP SIDE OF THE FIRST KNOLL RK0486'TO A RAVINE ABOUT 100 FEET WIDE DIVIDING THE FIRST BARE ROCKY RK0486'KNOLL FROM THE SECOND, CROSS THE RAVINE, ASCEND THE STEEP ROCKY RK0486'SIDE OF THE SECOND KNOLL TO THE SUMMIT AND THE STATION ON THE RK0486'HIGHEST POINT ALONG THE WEST SIDE. ABOUT A HALF-HOUR PACK. A RK0486'TRAIL WAS BLAZED FROM THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE CABIN AT THE END RK0486'OF TRUCK TRAVEL. RK0486' RK0486'STATION MARK IS A NAIL LEADED IN A DRILL HOLE. IT IS 37 FEET WEST RK0486'SOUTHWEST OF A 4 INCH PINE TREE WITH A TRIANGLE BLAZE ON THE WEST RK0486'SIDE, 18 FEET SOUTHWEST OF THE NORTHEAST EDGE OF BEDROCK OUTCROP RK0486'AND 10 FEET SOUTHEAST OF THE NORTHWEST EDGE OF CLIFF. RK0486' RK0486'REFERENCE MARK NO. 1, A STANDARD DISK, STAMPED TRILOBA U.S.L.S. NO 1 RK0486'1955, IS CEMENTED IN A DRILL HOLE IN BEDROCK. IT IS 22 FEET RK0486'WEST-SOUTHWEST OF A 4 INCH PINE TREE WITH A TRIANGLE BLAZE ON THE RK0486'WEST SIDE AND 3 FEET SOUTHWEST OF THE NORTHEAST EDGE OF BEDROCK RK0486'OUTCROP. RK0486' RK0486'REFERENCE MARK NO. 2, A STANDARD DISK, STAMPED TRILOBA U.S.L.S. NO 2 RK0486'1955, IS CEMENTED IN A DRILL HOLE IN BEDROCK. IT IS 45 FEET SOUTH RK0486'OF A 4 INCH PINE TREE WITH A TRIANGLE BLAZE ON THE WEST SIDE OF TREE RK0486'AND 19 FEET NORTHEAST OF THE SOUTHEAST EDGE OF BEDROCK. RK0486' RK0486'AZIMUTH MARK, A STANDARD DISK, STAMPED TRILOBA U.S.L.S. 1955, IS RK0486'CEMENTED IN A DRILL HOLE IN BEDROCK. IT IS 89 FEET WEST-SOUTHWEST RK0486'OF THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF A STONE MONUMENT FOR A BARTLETT KING, 17 RK0486'FEET WEST OF THE LAST FLIGHT OF STAIRS AND 10 FEET NORTH OF THE RK0486'SOUTH EDGE OF CLIFF. RK0486' RK0486'THE AZIMUTH MARK IS VISIBLE FROM THE GROUND AT THE STATION BUT TREES RK0486'ON THE STATION HILL MAY REQUIRE TOPPING IN LATER YEARS. RK0486'THE STATION WAS ASSUMED TO HAVE BEEN RECOVERED WHEN THE O-PARTY RK0486'OCCUPIED THIS STATION. THE MARK WHICH WAS OCCUPIED WAS A NAIL RK0486'LEADED INTO A DRILL HOLE IN SOLID ROCK (ALTHO THE ORIGINAL RK0486'DESCRIPTION DESCRIBES THE MARK AS A BRASS RK0486'FRUSTUM LEADED INTO A DRILL HOLE IN SOLID ROCK). RK0486'WHEN COMPUTATIONS WERE FINISHED ON THE STATION IT WAS DETERMINED RK0486'THAT THE POINT OCCUPIED DIFFERED FROM THE OLD GEOGRAPHIC POSITION BY RK0486'42.32 METERS LONGITUDE AND 8.18 METERS LATITUDE. THE OLD STATION RK0486'BEING NORTH AND EAST OF THE POINT OCCUPIED. WHEN THIS WAS RK0486'DISCOVERED, A MAN WAS SENT BACK TO THE STATION TO DETERMINE IF THE RK0486'MARK FOUND WAS A BRASS FRUSTUM OR A NAIL AND TO SEARCH FOR A RK0486'SIMILAR MARK IN THE VICINITY OF THE LOCATION GIVEN ABOVE. IT WAS RK0486'DETERMINED THAT THE MARK OCCUPIED WAS NOT BRASS BUT WAS IRON OR STEEL RK0486'LEADED INTO THE DRILL HOLE. A SEARCH OF THE AREA INDICATED RK0486'DID NOT REVEAL ANOTHER MARK BUT A HOLE WHICH APPEARED TO BE A DRILL RK0486'HOLE WAS FOUND IN A BOULDER. WHETHER THIS BOULDER HAD BEEN RK0486'BEDROCK AND HAD BECOME SEPARATED COULD NOT BE DETERMINED. NO LEAD OR RK0486'BRASS THAT COULD HAVE BEEN USED IN THE MARK WAS FOUND. TIME DID NOT RK0486'PERMIT FURTHER INVESTIGATION.

So does that mean we wait for notice that it is working (and how do we get notice?), and then re-submit anything that hasn't appeared, or will they find things already in queue to process? Wait and see I guess.

Fyi

You won't find any Canadian marks in the USA database. Try this > http://webapp.geod.nrcan.gc.ca/geod/data-donnees/passive-passif.php?locale=en

No, did not have a camera. I happened on this mark out riding the trails on my RZR, saw a witness post along the old RR grade and stopped to check it out. PS - I sent an email inquiring weeks ago and never got a reply. RL0702_MARKER: DB = BENCH MARK DISK RL0702_SETTING: 7 = SET IN TOP OF CONCRETE MONUMENT RL0702_STAMPING: B 50 1934 RL0702_MARK LOGO: CGS RL0702_PROJECTION: PROJECTING 5 CENTIMETERS RL0702_STABILITY: C = MAY HOLD, BUT OF TYPE COMMONLY SUBJECT TO RL0702+STABILITY: SURFACE MOTION RL0702 RL0702 HISTORY - Date Condition Report By RL0702 HISTORY - 1934 MONUMENTED CGS RL0702 HISTORY - 1943 MARK NOT FOUND CGS RL0702 HISTORY - 1978 GOOD USGS RL0702 HISTORY - 1985 GOOD NGS RL0702 HISTORY - 20010615 GOOD USPSQD RL0702 HISTORY - 20040809 MARK NOT FOUND USPSQD RL0702 RL0702 STATION DESCRIPTION RL0702 RL0702'DESCRIBED BY COAST AND GEODETIC SURVEY 1943 RL0702'2.5 MI E FROM EWEN. RL0702'2.5 MILES EAST ALONG THE DULUTH, SOUTH SHORE AND ATLANTIC RL0702'RAILROAD FROM THE STATION AT EWEN, ONTONAGON COUNTY, AT A RL0702'CROSSING KNOWN IN 1934 AS BALTIMORE CROSSING, 15 FEET NORTH RL0702'OF THE CENTERLINE OF THE TRACK, AND AT THE EAST CATTLE GUARD. RL0702'A STANDARD DISK, STAMPED B 50 1934 AND SET IN THE TOP OF A RL0702'CONCRETE POST. NOTE-- PROBABLY TORN OUT BY EXCAVATION OF RR RL0702'DITCH. RL0702 RL0702 STATION RECOVERY (1978) RL0702 RL0702'RECOVERY NOTE BY US GEOLOGICAL SURVEY 1978 RL0702'THIS MARK WAS PREVIOUSLY REPORTED AS NOT BEING RECOVERED. THE MARK IS RL0702'LOCATED AS DESCRIBED AND ADD 25 FT. EAST OF RR CULVERT NO. 252.45 AND RL0702'DELETE THE REFERENCE TO CATTLE GUARD. RL0702 RL0702 STATION RECOVERY (1985) RL0702 RL0702'RECOVERY NOTE BY NATIONAL GEODETIC SURVEY 1985 RL0702'RECOVERED IN GOOD CONDITION. A NEW DESCRIPTION FOLLOWS. 3.9 KM (2.4 RL0702'MI) WESTERLY ALONG STATE HIGHWAY 28 FROM ITS JUNCTION WITH U.S. RL0702'HIGHWAY 45 IN BRUCE CROSSING, 182.6 M (599.1 FT) EAST OF THE RL0702'CENTERLINE OF NORTH BALTIMORE ROAD, 92.0 M (301.8 FT) NORTH OF THE RL0702'CENTERLINE OF THE HIGHWAY, 61.9 M (203.1 FT) NORTH OF THE NORTHEAST RL0702'CORNER OF A WHITE HOUSE, AND 4.6 M (15.1 FT) NORTH OF THE NEAR RAIL OF RL0702'THE SOO LINE RAILROAD. RL0702'THE MARK IS 0.3 METERS W FROM A WITNESS POST RL0702'THE MARK IS 0.6 M ABOVE THE TRACKS. RL0702 RL0702 STATION RECOVERY (2001) RL0702 RL0702'RECOVERY NOTE BY US POWER SQUADRON 2001 (GG) RL0702'RECOVERED IN GOOD CONDITION. RL0702 RL0702 STATION RECOVERY (2004) RL0702 RL0702'RECOVERY NOTE BY US POWER SQUADRON 2004 (GG) RL0702'MARK NOT FOUND. *** retrieval complete. Elapsed Time = 00:00:01

I noticed that I have one that I reported as found last October and it never got updated yet 2 others reported at the same time did. This one that did not was a "NOT FOUND" in 2004 by USPSQD that was actually right where it was described. I even submitted it again in Dec and its till has not been updated as of this date. ?

You would have to be crazy to do that job. Have to carry a gun 24/7 or the bears will have you for lunch....

Here is an NGS map to zero in on the location to see if any marks are in the database that fit... NGS Explorer