I that true?
I know non PM members can log finds on PM only caches, but I didn't think it was possible for them to see the actual cache details (unless a PM shows them), or have I missed something?
Nope, missed nothing.
What is happening is a specific Member (not PM) is asking PM's for details on Prem caches. No problem if it is an occasional one off, however this local Member is constantly asking PM for access to Prem services, for free. A number of local CO's are placing controls in place to enable other cachers the opportunity to get the odd {FTF}, however the non paying member (not working due to wealth and more than able to front up the $30) seeks {FTF} while everybody else is at work - most local {FTF} are in this boat. If the Member paid for Prem Services rather than asking for the info free from less fortunate yet paid up PM, then there would be no grizzle.
The original listing (removed due to the overly sensitive first post on this blog causing Reviewer interaction) was simply to congratulate all PM for making that choice, and ask them to NOT pass Prem details to the non paying member who wants Prem services for free.
Not sure why the forum was created, where a simple message to me could have answered the question, outright.
That is all 😀
Give me the guy's name in a private message. I'll gift him a premium membership.
However, I think what's really bothering you is that he has more time on his hands and is able to scoop the FTFs since you have to work for a living. Purchasing a premium membership won't fix that.
You are probably upset that making your caches PMO didn't slow him down. It may be to to retire so you can pursue the FTF game.
Thanks for the offer on this. Several of us local cachers have already discussed,however we ecided not to - we want him to step up to the plate.
No, being a Prem Member won't slow him down. All some of us are trying to do is provide others with the opportunity to get the odd FTF - including the cacher that created this forum.
If everybody went back and read the text that I had placed in my cache, without the negative context from the forum, I'd hope they would see it through a different lens. That said, I have been chastised and called "arrogant" and a "tyrant", for trying to 'even the play field'.
Yes, I did drop a line (well before this forum began) to the PM that had shared the Prem data with the non-PM.
Yes, I did put my hand up and enter this forum by first stating " I am the cache owner of the puzzle in question" with an explanation of what my cache text was and was not about.
Yes, I got it wrong - and have been informed by the Growly Bear (a local reviewer that works extremely well to assist in the success of our game) that Premium Only caches may be found by non PM, however may not be seen.
Yes, I asked that PM maintain the integrity of this by not enabling the viewing of PMO caches by non PM. No, I do not mean your spouse or kids, I do mean non related non PM that are in a postion to become PM.
No, the forum creator did not question this issue with me first, however publicly sought advice from folk offshore that have never met me and had no way of knowing the background or the many local discussions by local cachers far more experienced than me who happen to be more than a little annoyed about what has been ongoing for rather a long while.
Yes, I do personally know the non PM, and I will have a discussion when we next see eachother (rather than on online discussion), and yes it will be a polite respectful discussion. The non PM in question are two lovely people. Just wish they'd make that call to support the ongoing development and maintenance of the site that we all use to enjoy our hobby.
The 350 was simply a line in the sand that indicates somebody gts 'about a cache a day'. That is not meant to mean somebody is caching every day, rather an average number. This non PM gets 'about' a thousand or more each year.
Yup, last night (Friday night here in New Zealand) I submitted two more caches, hoping GB will publish over the weekend. I will ask specifically for this in future - great idea thanks wmpastor.
And, yup, I will continue to place caches for the enjoyment of others and to continue to grow the game.
Nothing in my listing was designed/intended to 'cause resentment about being preached to' or indeed offend anybody. It was never about an agenda for "religious, political, charitable or social purposes" (as outlawed by he rules).
If you have a query about a listing by another CO, please ask the CO - you will probably find they will be rather informative
If any of you are visiting New Zealand and make it to Wellington, be sure and tip your hat. Lot's of pointers for folk that want some ideas about some some great local caching locations depending on your requirements.
Happy caching folk.
