GOF and Bacall

Head on over to the WNY Geocachers forum. You'll find locals who will probably be happy to join you in the adventure.

Those aren't beers. Unicode friendly logs aren't a sexy feature, especially for those of us who never leave the first half of ISO-8859-1, but I can see the appeal for those who venture beyond 7 bit. But think of the puzzles you can create if we have unicode in cache descriptions. Everybody knows PBR is the official beer of geocaching... at least in my home. Around here we call PBR poser pee. We prefer some of Grumpy Old Fart Brewery's finest red ale. Come to think of it it's almost time to brew another batch.

I have archived caches that I thought had run their course. But I would not just re-list the same cache on a new page. I could see archiving a cache and creating a whole new cache in the same area. But it would have to be something totally different. A new experience.

Depends. If it feels like a new cache hide create a new page.

Definitely. I had one that local kids had found. They left notes in it for a while. But eventually it went missing. Sooner or later it will go missing. But in the meantime they'll just keep leaving nasty notes for you real geocachers to find.

God, I hope not! Just did one this morning. Kid has nine finds and started Feb 25th. Awesome 2+ mile walk with a unusual, well-stocked container (med) along a rock ridge with a great view and coords spot-on. - And local too. Had a ball! Would being sure the hider understood the rules, excuse me, guidelines have changed that cache? Would a short quiz have eliminated this persons creativity? No, but-and I hate to say it-some(I said some, not all or most) younger people would be discouraged from hiding a cache at all, if they had to do some sort of quiz. It could be though of as too much work and not worth it. I've seen it before in other parts of life. They have to copy a few things from their resume to a job application-It's not worth their time. They do something wrong and are told nicely how to do it correctly the next time so they quit their job. On the plus side it might weed out the people who join and cache for a month.Not saying they are bad cacher, but what I've seen they make bad caches, or they make good ones and don't maintain them. Somehow I doubt that a player with enough ambition and creativity to come up with the cache you described is going to be deterred by a few questions that can be answered from the other open tab.

God, I hope not! Just did one this morning. Kid has nine finds and started Feb 25th. Awesome 2+ mile walk with a unusual, well-stocked container (med) along a rock ridge with a great view and coords spot-on. - And local too. Had a ball! Would being sure the hider understood the rules, excuse me, guidelines have changed that cache? Would a short quiz have eliminated this persons creativity?

My first question is never 'what are we going to get?' but rather 'what is going to get busted this time?'.

I think it's your ears. Is one lower than the other? That is SO offensive. Seriously though. There are jerks everywhere. Even in geocaching. Did your fan mention what they found offensive?

You guys forgot to mention that linking to a geocachingspoilers video that shows other placements that do not meet the guidelines isn't a very strong defense. "I saw it on the internet, so it must be true". Bonjour? Where did you see that, MadeUpMonkeypoop.com? "They can't say anything on the internet that isn't true."

You can see the reviewer's track record? Like how many micros they have published, and how many caches they have denied because they were buried...stuff like that? I'm in awe of your secret powers! From what I've read, two of the necessary for becoming are reviewer are: 1. In posession of super powers 2. Crazy enough to want the job. I believe that WeatherWarrior mentioned that he's a storm chaser...someone that intentionally goes out and gets as close as possible to tornados and hurricanes. It sounds to me like he's eminently qualified for the job. It has often been said that asking to be a reviewer is a sure way to be disqualified. I figure that they don't want anybody crazy enough to want to do the job. By the way, kan I be a reviewer?

OMG!!! Do you think maybe the sucky reviewers are in league with the stupid police? We are so screwed. Maybe. But the fact that ST shows up to post minutes after I did kind makes me nervous. Does Groundspeak have black ops connections?

The worst part about all these reviewers that suck is that they probably hang out with the Stupid police!!! Hoisting a few beers. Picking out which caches to blow up. Clubbing baby seals. That kinda stuff.

I just use one of these. Works great.

The cache owner probably deleted it.

What a stupid idea. How many of those canisters where opened by unsuspecting cachers thinking they were meant to be caches that people take and rehide/publish somewhere else? What are some people thinking??? Back when this 12 year old thread was started geocachers generally didn't associate film canisters with cache containers. Ah yes. Those must have been wonderful times.

I've been stopped so many times while caching that it seems like a normal part of the game any more. My favorite was the very first time. Seems I was reported as 'a man with a gun'. The last time, a couple days ago, the officer already knew what geocaching was. He did seem interested that I had an app on my phone and surprised that just anyone could hide a cache. But otherwise it was just routine.

This is the Kat in Tygerkat, just so you know I would never make any derogatory comments about anyone on the Internet. Kathryn I think most of us are smart enough to figure out that "Stupid police!!!" was nothing more than vented frustration and maybe a bit of fear. Personally I don't think you guys have much to worry about. We're pulling for you. Keep us posted.

I have just heard rumors. An incident near LAX, memorialized in this cache and various logs always comes to mind. She was not the one who placed the caches where the incident took place. I could find no media reference to the area being shut down by the police and the cacher reported being "fined" before any kind of court hearing could have taken place. So there are a lot of questions and I would like to know what happened in the end -- call it professional curiosity. Of course the Boston Bomb Scare ended up with a hefty corporate settlement for any civil or criminal matters. The people who were responsible were charged with placing a hoax device to incite panic. The judge was dubious. The charges were dropped in exchange for community service and a public apology. That incident goes beyond the type of event in this thread. The first part is an interesting story. I'd like to hear more. But I agree, 10k without any mention of court seems odd. That is, I think, the only time I've heard of someone being prosecuted over a geocaching related bomb scare. The second really is a different situation than what we are talking about. I think I'll just avoid that conversation here. No need to go off topic.

Has anyone ever actually been prosecuted over one of these bomb scares? I know it is almost universal that someone threatens to press charges. But has it ever actually happened? I know that people have been charged with trespassing but that is a different matter.

You intentionally deployed a cache that looks like a pipe bomb and you call the police stupid?

When asking if a certain cache idea would be allowed the best place to start is by reading the guidelines. After that if you still have questions ask your reviewer. The idea of some sort of air canon cache launcher makes me think of 'A Christmas Story'. "You'll shoot your eye out, kid."

Think back on those caches that you found that did the job well and think about what they all have in common. Being forced to use some official container would just stifle creativity. Only adds up to four containers.

I hate to say it but you may never see it move again. Sometimes people pick one up and loose it. Sometimes they drop it off and forget to log it as so. Sometimes they are just jerks. One thing is sure though, few travelers last very long after being released.

"tacky beyond belief"? I'm finding the amount of hyperbole in these forums to be almost more than I can stand. I ask simple, honest questions and get responses that border on angry and mean-spirited. Honestly, I don't see it as tacky. What's wrong with setting a challenge for oneself? I don't "find" my own traditional caches...but the challenge is something else. Don't take it so personal. You asked for opinions and people are giving them. I would agree. Someone logging a find on their own hide would be tacky. I'm not being nasty but I am giving you my opinion.