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good idea, great and well designed !! I hope your skils make you rich one day. I am sorry to brake the news, it is too big for the avarage cache container, and it can hardly handle water, fongus, moisture, dirt, as required if you need to put it in a cache, but if its main goal is not to travel from cache to cache, but from cacher to cacher, via personally exchange, at events or private meetings, fine, then I see the point.. I did log a few similar sized TB's they are also only exchanged and precented at events.

copy paste : Fopund What? 452 Found it 02/16/2012 On our last day in HCMC we wantend to find this cache. There were a lot of muggels. We searched all over, but the cache seems to be gone. We logged anyway. On foto you can see that we were there! The place to be! Kows What DNF Means 10903 Didn't find it 02/11/2012 --- If anyone ever make a log like this for one of my caches, I will DELETE it, I dont know if I as a CO can change status of a log ?? from found to not found ??

40 ft is nothing :-) see this cache http://coord.info/GC29J2Y and here is my log http://coord.info/GL7B9D5Z but I dont think muglers go here to vandalize the cache :-) it is normal to place it compleetly visible this hi up, so cachers know what tree to climb and where to go.. ok it is possible to combine hight, with very well hidden !! but lucky this is not common, I dont think I will enjoy it that much. --- > CUT CUT massively-weighted caches is NOT the answer. I think it was kids, who took my very nice and very well painted ammo it was stuffed with goodies, so what could they think or know.. Now I made it ugly for kids, impossibly to lift or steal by kids, but very funny for a regular cacher to see this seriously modified ammo, maybe I should just take a picture of it next time I goto it :-) so you can see it is very funny, also I put an old bucked upside down, on the cache, man are they going to regret it, if they come running and trying to kick it hard :-)

You are right about a lot of it.. I also prefer english discriptions of all caches, also in non native english locations, this is a great help for turists.. I just cant say I am perfect my self, not all of my own caches are written in english, sorry abou that something that will be quite easy to fix.. I strongly suggest local approvers encurage english text, or double text at least, how can we all get back on track ?

I am still working on making and placing 41 caches, to be released the 29th, there is an event near by, I been working on the for a month now. I hope they find them all that night :-) and maybe someone else make a little cache or two for me to find.

>Just for future reference, feeding bread to birds is generally discouraged. sorry about that, they did look really happy.. Great I see you all found a simple solution.. take what you like, filter out what you maybe dont like, have fun, go outdoors, spend less time writing bad stuff in a forum :-) Yes to the single mom ! great you found a way and level that match your kind of fun, it is just great this hobby got so many levels or ways to be played, the only problem is someone who thinks they got better skils and love to talk about it, and neglect the joy and happyness others got on what ever level they are at. Dont look at peoples score, dont look on your own, just play.

Here in Denmark, there is NO satelite view option anymore !!! upgrade = downgrade = VERY BAD !! now I need google earth open at the same time, copy/paste position and then research the best or possible ways into a cache area.. I want the good old maps-beta back !!!

I did a statistic check of my finds micro 42 % small 31 % regular 20 % see how it is when you move arround in the city area alot :-) or muglers even come to parks and small forrests, so we are forced to hide well..

every holiday I go on cant be as great as last time.. so what, I still go. it is the same with any hobby, it is all about the small and the big things, yesterday we had a alot of fun at a geocache site, it is winter here, ice and snow, so birds like ducks starve alot. so the girls got this idea, lets bring bread and feed them, and the funny thing they let us hand feed them all. ok that is sometimes also possible during summer if you are calm and nice, but yesterday they also let us pet them !! haha that was soo cool, we took alot of pictures and videos. So just get out there, see some stuff with an open mind. sure you see alot of crap.. and you see some good stuff too :-) I dont hate P&G I take them too for fun, or even my kids race to see who get it first, after alot of P&G a day in florida, we changed the game a bit, we said ok now it is only legal to take the cache from the car !! you can not leave the car or open the door, but you can open the window, or walk on the car, what ever you like.. HAHA imagine I got alot og cool pictures that day, it was a rental :-) I think it is great there is so much different. what I hate the most is CO's who neglect maintenence. and cachers who forgets to log trackables correctly, or fast enought, they sure know how to log the cache as found 5 mins later, but 2-3 weeks later still no log of the TB, that is bad !! why dont you get the diff/terr matrix filled up ? then you try alot of new and different stuff.

official event rules ?? like there is supposed to be a log book, and you are supposed to sign it ? right ? just like a real cache, so the CO can check/should if you been there.. I am not a very active event person, sorry :-) I have seen events with log books, and other with no log. offcourse the organizer cant know or remember all the faces, and so what.. I hear it is actually more normal NOT to have a log book, since it dont mean a thing at all, waste of good paper :-) people can do what ever they like, it is THEIR game, I play it to have most possible fun

all CO try to get their caches, vandalized, stolen, broken and such.. it is a part of it, the less you feel personally affected by this, the better. I tried a few different solutions. halve the cache size after each problem, sooner or later it will be hard for loosers to find and steal, but ok also only the smartest cachers can find it. use cheaper and more crappy cache containers, ok need service more often, but ok you live close and can easy fix it. make it harder to steal.. in one location, my best ammo box hide got stolen, so I took a new ammo box and welded a massive solid steel bar to it, I needed a lift to put it there !!! now kids, come and rob it !! also I left the steel ugly and rusty and dirty !! so no one want to touch it or put it in their car, the ammo box is nice and fine to open and log.

BETA : in the phycical log, several pages down BETA, name and correct date when cache is puplished to the world and several others found it, I log it as found, ans I use the real date, ok I get first in the online logm this is also correct, and I write in the online log BETA and a short note about it if it makes sense to me and others, most of the time a beta test is done by close cachers friends, so a beta log is emailed or phoned or even face to face conversation with CO is needed, so he can make a few minor adjustments to the cache before release. ---- I rather NOT go out and place caches with CO friends, since I cant "find" it and claim a find, since I know just as good as the CO where it is. I also prefer to go out alone and place my own, so I can ask my friends how they liked the find. but actually stuff like this hapens very rare, if you get a "free" found logged, one out of 1000, why care ? wait a year and find it, they you even forgot where it was, and it feels like fun to you. if you only get 0.1% error in your real logs, it is still alot more real compared to the people you argue with :-) if there is actually anything to argue about in the first place, the term "free" logs happen all the time, it is just about how you define it. are you in a group ? your spouse ? 100 friends ? who find it ? who logs it ? only the ONE who finds it is truely a finder, all others in the group got a free find.. there are MANY degrees of this.. like a cache in a tall tree, a group of 5 cachers go out on a trip to find it, one climb up, get it, throw it down to the group, they all log it, and throw it up to the person in the tree who set it nicely back.

the best thing is if dumb muglers got NO, awareness about us geocachers, so they can not put a specific NAME on their hate !! this way we are just RANDOM wierd people sneeking arround, they way they can not look us up, and not start any ban or hate campains against us. if they however got a brain and is possible to talk to, and looks like they are open for salvation ? then it is better to open their mind letting them in, revealing the game and what it is all about. Hey we even installed alot of caches arround my job, exactly to get geocachers to show up all weekend and all night long, this way they scare thefs and other bad people away, Geocachers are the good dudes, they see more and repport more crime or even prevent crime, actually a good thing to have us sneeking arround..

Ya.. when we go FTF hunting, it is some times not alone.. so the first to spot the cache, is not always the same who sign the log first, simple, a spot is not a get, they can be hard to get or hard to open, or even if they are found and open, where is the log haha a new trick.. stuff like this happen. we are like 20-30-40-50 years old in "my" group, when we team up on events or just on a normal cache night, it is some times a run and fight game :-) to get it in the hands first, and this is even if the cache was logged first time many month ago, we just want as much fun out of every sec we are out together, and you know what, it is good traning too.

3 friends go on a hunt, lets call them A,B,C A found the cache first. B got the log first and signed it. C logged it online first. I have seen this several times.. that is why the "system" cant handle FTF logs. and that is why we say B is the FTF no matter what. there can be only ONE true FTF, if you ask me..

I am sorry, dont got any pictures of this.. (yet) but you know the top plastic end stoppers ? they sit on the top of traffic signs and such. they are designed so they can not be pulled up by muglers or kids without tools, and for a good reason offcourse :-) but if an evil minded geocacher show up in a dark night with a big flat screwdriver they are possible to pull out, take home, modify slighty so they can be pulled up with no tool needed, add a 35mm film box using a string, show up next night and put it back, bingo you got it..

I good geocacher is one who log online as soon as possible for him, when he take and when he place a trackable.. A careless geocacher is one who take and place trackables and dont care about the online logs, but he do care to log online his cache finds. I am sorry to say this, but I do see the number of careless geocachers growing, what a shame, people do pay money for trackables and they do enjoy to see them moved and all that, I personally log trackables on the road ! much higher priority over logging a cache find. I dont think you should thank people for acting like they are supposed to, it is a part of this game.. but maybe you should hate people for not ?

The good thing is this hobby or game if you call it, can be played a milion ways.. if some race for FFC and have fun doing so, please let them :-) add a little simple FFC to your new cache, you might even enjoy the logs or to see how fast someone find it. Share the fun, play along, why not. if they put in on the wall, or binder, or throw it out, I dont care much :-) however If I got time and space in the cache, I try to make it a little bit nicer looking, but there is ALWAYS at least a little note saying : FFC for GCxxxxx congratulations you found it first, even in the smallest of the caches I make.

>I like the snail. what did you use to secure the bison tube in the snail? I filled up as much of the inside as possible with hotmelt glue first, let at cool down, add one last mayor drop, put in the lit of bison, done.. now the snail is impossible to brake :-) I added a thick layer of transparent varnish to make it look nice for along time. The hole I made in the old rotten tree, is agled a little bit so the snail stay there, simply by its weight, The good thing about caches like this, is they are always put back EXACTLY where they are supposed to be :-)

I drilled a 12mm hole in a dead tree, and inserted the snail thing :-)

Some people are not to mess with, cant listen, and be told anything, cant understand, you dont know their past experiance with wierd people sneeking arround outside their house, there might be a very good reason why they are a bit angry. your job is to figure this out as fast as possible, and just move on fast and silent, smile polite and jusk walk away. then write all your fustrations and bad experiance in the DNF online log !! this way the CO and other cachers will know what to do here.. -------------- stuff like this happens VERY rarely !! the worst thing I tried was to find a bunch of armed soldiers in the forrest, I guess I scared them at night with my light, one pointed a rifle at me and yelled at me, quite scarry, I tried to explain hey I am a civilian I am not a problem to you.. but he just yelled some more, so I walked away.. wierd dudes.. I did not see any warning or info signs at the forrest entry

it is YOUR game, not others, what you do or dont is only YOUR problem. but if you play the SAME game as us, you need to play by the SAME RULES as us, else there is a big chance we will not take you or your achivements seriously. a cache is ONLY found, when the LOG is found and signed or stambed with your NAME !!! anything else is NOT a found !! you can not ask a friend to sign it, YOU must do this your self !! a CO is actually supposed to check the logbook, and delete online logs if they are not in the book, it is a gentleman sport/game, you as a geocacher is supposed to play fair and not lie, that is actually what you do if you log a cache you did not sign the physical logbook. you should write a NOTE or a DNF this way the CO and other cachers can ready about your experiance of this cache or the area, you could still also get a very nice trip and hike with out finding and signing the logbook. So enjoy that and be happy. I as a CO did delete logs a few times, but only since one of my caches is very complex with many stages and some found containers with hints, and think this is maybe the cache, so they put in a paper note with their log on it, that is NOT approved as a found. a logbook always contain the word LOGBOOK !! it may look like a piece of paper, or a book or whatever :-) and it must also contain the GC number and even the cache name, however some mystery caches do not do this, simply since the container with log, could be found by accident, and the CO dont want you to get an easy online find..

also some caches placed during summer, could be VERY hard to get to, but ridiculous easy to access during winter, simply since you can walk on thick ice :-) I must say I took advantage of this a few times my self, since ice is easier for me to handle over hiring a boat and crew for it. IF the point of the cache is to make it hard, not easy, if the idea is you must use a boat, not walk on ice, then the CO should disable the cache during winter time, since people are smart, they will use the means avalable to them, to access a cache location, we do it offcourse the way we find most easy and most safe.

diff ratings are relative to the cache owners own skil level so he maybe find it hard, and you find it easy simply since you got more of the needed skils, if a new cache is rated clearly wrong, and several finders point this out, the CO could trim this a bit up or down so it match what most findes find more correct. that is fine I think.. ok I see the problem if your missing matrix location was filled by this, now removed you drove 100 miles to solve it, but actually got the point unfair or wrong rated, you cant be safe from this, the way the system is now, the idea to "lock" ratings on your own finds in your own stat is a good way to solve this, but I think it is VERY complex to change the system to do this, just to make a few matrix hunters happy.. your only solution now, is to find another one with the missing rating, go find and log it. when you got all 81 filled out, by at least 1 then your next quest is to fill all 81 by at least 2 !!! have fun..

>1 DNF will not dissuade me, but if the last 3-5* logs are DNFs then I will almost always skip it. me too.. but some times I did actually look for caches with 2-3 DNF as last logs, and FOUND IT !!! HAHA the reward is outstanding.. the feeling of : HAHA I am the best and coolest, I can find stuff others cant, the smile is hard to take away :-) Caches with Needs Maintenence flag sat, are normally NOT transfered to my GPS, simply since they are most of the times supposed to need service.. I did this for many years, but found out, alot of the caches with needs maintenencs are still in an ok state, can be found, can be logged, and can lead you to a very cool and special location. some I found had no reason at all the be "needs maintenence" was in perfect shape !!! so I wrote to the CO and requested him to remove this flag.