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this is something I suggested a couple years ago when folks complained about missing/stolen coins and all the alluminum tags started saturating the market. I still think it's a good idea. and would ensure that good quality proxies were in the game. However with any good idea, you need someone to lead the way and set the standard and become the trailblazer. afterwards, if it gets good feedback, the rest will follow....

Geocoinfucious say man who go to bed with itchy butt, wake up with stinky finger! sorry guys and gals, brought back a memory from the frat days... cool coin! congrats! ...I'm curious to see the backside....

careful what you wish for... plastic geocoins are closer than you think. I'd even go as far as saying they already exist. IMHO... they will have a stronghold on the geocoin market sooner than we may think or desire...

evolution is inevitable... although it is in dire need, overhauling and re-catagorizing the forums is a totally different subject. I'm talking about the way trackables are catagorized... every piece of trackable swag these days is dubbed a "geocoin" <sarcasm> I'm thinking of making some edible "geocoin" cookies... or making disposable "geocoin" CITO bags for CITO events... the possiblities of "geocoins" is endless... anything goes! </sarcasm> sorry, I just don't get how these new trackables like the chech leather and chech cloth TRACKABLE SWAG can be considered as a geocoin... but to understand why that is, we must back up and ask how the alluminum TRAVEL TAGS get considered as geocoins as well... as far as who says what is what.... I'm sure there is at least one competent lackey around that can be assigned the task... who approves the artwork and icons? ...have them make a decision... if the owner disagrees they can appeal the decision... making a decision is better than letting it build into a cluster ---- nobody wants to deal with.... It's not going to go away by ignoring it either... trackables are a huge part of geocaching, as geocaching grows, so do trackables.... by not allowing trackables to grow out of the "geocoin" catagory, people lose a sense of exactly what a geocoin is... is it a dogtag or piece of cloth or leather? under the current system...yes, should they be... no the need is there to make some changes, the desire to do so is what is lacking.... I'm not sure if it's a "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" type thing, but it will have to be addressed by someone at some point... if not, soon common washers and nuts will have tracking codes and we'll be calling them "geocoins"

yeah, if everybody had that "some things never change" attitude, we would still think playing pong on an Atari was the collest thing since sliced bread and geocaching would be called "orienteering"! At some point this issue is going to have to be addressed by Groundspeak. And because they don't have a 'pro-active' approach to things, it seems the only way to get them to "oil the hinges on the hampster wheels", so to speak, is to make them to squeek! As long as we accept the blanket term "geocoins"as it is, to descibe all trackable items, nothing is ever going to change. It seems now may be as good a time as any to make some slight changes to groundspeaks glossary of terms for hitchhikers/ trackables/ geocoins/ travel tags/ and swag in general.

I agree with this whole heartedly... a perfectly logical solution to the problem as well...

will it be available in any other type of dung (oh boy...a new doggie coin!) lol... I can do american bulldog or chihuahua... any preference?!

my point exactly! ... my question is, where does it stop?

so I can put a tracking number on a hubcap and call it a geocoin? I don't buy that... thanks for the input though...

<rant> ok, rather than highjack another topic or six, I start a new one... yes, it's me again, on my soapbox offering my opinion and wanting everyone elses again... can someone please draw the line on exactly what a geocoin is? It started innocent enough, a round metal disk approximately 1.75"x1.75" and 2-3 cm thick... much like a COIN... they started to morph into different shapes and sizes, then came cut-outs and lranslucent widow panels you could see through... somewhere along the line the alluminum tags that where once "Travel Bug's" morphed into different shapes and sizes and we started calling them "geocoins"... then came "clay" geocoins... then "glass" geocoins... and soon came "wood", "leather" and "cloth" what's next? ...ice? ...molten lava? ...plastic? ...rubber?...paper? ...polyresin? ...is there no end? ...no boundaries which define a "geocoin" truely is? ...is the term "geocoin" a blanket name for anything trackable these days? I think I'll try and make a "geocoin" out of peacock feathers and dried cow chips and tell everyone it's an organic "psychedelic BS geocoin" and see what everyone thinks of that.... some may like the term "geocoins" used for everything trackable, but exactly where is it all headed? to be honest, I can't say I like it... I'd call a metal coin a "geocoin", I'd call the alluminum tags "travel tags" or "trackable tags" and call the glass,wood,leather,cloth,etc,etc,etc.... "trackable swag" or "personal trackables"....anything but geocoins!... </rant> opinions please....

I feel your pain... that's 3 for me as well and I'm suppose to be saving for the financing of my new personal coin... looks like I'll be needing to work some overtime...

won't be making the Europe event, but I'm hoping to run across these while caching through the Carolina's for the US event... great designs!

Doh! that is the same weekend as Going Coastal.... hhhmmmm... that could be a problem... I doubt I'm in then... unless I can host/co-host an event in Savannah...

Ditto! I'm in, but I like the veterans theme... I will have to know what the coins theme is before I commit to it...

I'd say if it is ever within 10 hours of you It's worth the drive.... more than that and it's easier to fly! with it being in PA this year, I wouldn't count on it making it back to PA or nearby for several years... demand for it is high and too many folks want it in their "neck of the woods". With it being in the NW last year and NE this year, using an educated guess, I'd edge my money on the SE, SW or MidWest areas as bocoming host for 2012, but stranger things have happened, even though the odds are against it, it could end up in NewJersey next year...

Was 2012 announced? 2012 will be announced at the 2011 event(July 2nd). I'm sure on July 3rd everyone will know. Wait another 8 weeks and you'll know then...

Avroair had it listed in The Dirty Dozen thread as a Club Coin, so it may be that does not go it on general sale at Geoswag. I thought it went on sale last week, but after checking it was the pin that was being offered... I'm not overly impressed with it myself... Nothing wrong with it, it just doesn't fit into any of the themes I prefer to collect, and I can't collect them all. However I did get one. If anyone is interested in it and wants to work out a trade or purchase for it, send me an email.... And I won't even make you buy extra coins to obtain it! ...oops, did I type that out loud?!?!?

The grab bag I bought was only $3 or so more than the mask coin by itself. Considering how expensive the international singles were to purchase from those web stores (I think the Dutch one was like $19 plus shipping in the end), I'd say this was fairly priced. $3... come on, you're kidding right? ...are you sure we were both looking at the same site? by the time I had bought both grab bags(one was for 2 extra trackables because the smaller bags were gone(go figure)) and with the extra shipping involved would have been just shy of an extra $25 I wasn't willing to spend $19....that's probably the reason I don't buy many coins from overseas sites either... my loss I'm sure, but I don't have a desire anymore to get every version... I would have been fine with ordering the two coins I wanted, and I would have been fine if I missed the sale, (which I did) what rubbed me wrong was the whole "...you can still get them, but it will cost you extra" deal by having to purchase extra coins I may already have or don't care for... I guess it's the sales tactic I don't agree with... It comes across to me as they have alot of coins they can't sell, so they hide them behind a brown paper wrapper and make it sound as if they are doing you a great service by offering you what you want, but you have to buy things you don't want to get them. Why not just discount the coins they are looking to dump with an "inventory closeout sale" or something of the sorts... I would hate for sales tactics like this to be used in other areas.... well, I'll sell you some tires, but you've got to buy the truck to go with it.... or I'll sell you some furniture, but you've got to buy the house too... next fast food joints won't sell you a burger unless you buy the cow... sorry, like I said, I don't agree with the sales tactic... but it is what it is, and it's their product to sell as they want... but on the same note, it's my money and I can spend it as I want... as the old saying goes, you can't please them all...well, I'm one of them this time around. If this is going to become a common practice to sell coins this way, then I'll be saving myself alot of money. ...just my .02 worth on the gorilla sales tactic... some may not agree, but I'm entitled to my opinion...

<insert soapbox> sorry, can't seem to follow the crowd on this one...I'm not sure I agree with the way geoswag is trying to sell these. Quite frankly, if this is their new sales tactic to dump a bunch of coins they can't sell by offering them through a "grab bag" featuring a new coin they know will sell, then I will be purchasing less and less from them... I only want the two coins that are the headline feature of each grab bag, but I'm not going to pay for 4 extra coins I don't want to get them just because I was sleeping and not fast enough for the sale of the individual coins. sorry, it just rubbed me the wrong way when I see I can still get them but it'll cost me an extra $25... not before coffee it doesn't! ... think I'll save my $ for the next coin sale... <remove soapbox> ...back to your regular ooooohhh's and aaaaaawwwww's

I'd like a set... 1 of each BN and 1 gold

great news! Add me to the list of those that would like the reservation option... should I pay you now!

couldn't happen to a nicer family! ...congrats Steve! You'll never miss the panhandle with finds like this! Tell the family we said Hi and tell that easter bunny to make his way to my Easter event for some "skirt lifting" and "ammo can tossing" .... we'll miss you all this year...

Well darn! I was loving those color combos. Looking forward to the update tho. CF30 double darn! .... not being one to say "oooh aaaah pretty" to every design coming through the forums these days, I have to admit I feel a bit let down... I was looking forward to this one, as the colors just say "awesome" to me. The thread is one of a small handful I even follow anymore. I'll be watching for any new updates as well....

Please add me to the list... I've purchased and traded coins with Mike several times and would love to add this coin to my collection....

great looking coin! I love it! I just hope the mystery coiner doesn't get discouraged from all the buzz kill in the room. I don't know the legal aspects, but I agree... if it isn't being produced or sold for profit and nothing links it to Disney... it is nothing more than fan art. ....pretty impressive fan art!