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First off, I don't really have time to head up a new category, so if it's a workable idea, someone else can feel free to run with it. Anyhow, I was discussing Little Free Libraries with my girlfriend and she asked if there was a Waymarking cat for them. I didn't see one, and didn't have anything come up in a quick search of the forums. Little Free Libraries are essentially boxes put out by people containing books that others are free to borrow. They are worldwide, though they appear to be more common in the U.S. I suppose if the idea becomes more popular there could be prevalence issues. Added to that, the Little Free Libraries site already tracks the location of these, so Waymarking them would be duplicating their efforts, but that's the case with many current categories. Any thoughts?

The purpose of the log is for cachers to prove they were physically at the cache. As for what to do with them when they're filled up, it's really up to the cache owner. In theory the CO should audit the online logs with the logbook. Some do that and delete the "fake" finds. Some scan the logbooks and post the pictures on the cache page. Others do nothing with them and just throw them out.

I thought something was going on. I archived the one Waymark I posted in the Blogger cat a while ago, and it got logged on the 3rd. I doubt they looked at the blogs, but I suppose it's hard to prove, so not much can be done about it.

I suppose it depends on the culture of that particular Amish society. I've found a few caches in Amish cemeteries. One specifically I remember several Amish families going by while I was looking around, and they didn't seem at all concerned. This was in the "touristy" part of Amish country here in Ohio, so they are likely used to non-Amish people being around, and thought nothing of it. I've never had any Amish pass by while visiting cemeteries in the more private Amish communities, but I could see that it might seem a little strange for a non-Amish person to be there. On the other hand these cemeteries sometimes do have non-Amish people buried there. And I can't imagine it's too far out of the realm of possibilites that someone might stop by to do geneology, or just stop to see the cemetery. I know outside of Geocaching, I often do both. There are plenty of opinions about caching in any cemetery, and I personally don't think that an Amish cemetery should be considered any more or less off-limits than any other cemetery.

I agree that the discovered logs can get out of hand. Unfortunately, changing it so discovered logs don't count toward the numbers/icons won't change much. Before discovered logs people just "picked up" the bugs from each other. It generates the same number of logs, they just say "picked up" or "grabbed from" or whatever it says instead of "discovered"

Not sure how far out of the Cincinnati area you're looking, but there's Caesers Darkside up at Caesar Creek SP...though it seems to be missing a bridge currently, unless it's been fixed.

I don't know of any "protection" so to speak, but you might send a friendly email to the owner of the Waymark. Maybe they could edit the Waymark in such a way to keep it from spoiling the virtual. Whenever I've listed a WM that I know is also a virtual cache I typically don't include the answer to the virt in the WM description, and I'll blur answers out of the photos (or just take the photos in such a way the answer can't be had). The only problem is I have no power over what people who visit the WM might post.

It doesn't always take days for a cache to get approved. Sometimes it's approved within minutes. It just depends how busy your local approver is. Per the guidelines, the container should be in place before submitting the cache. With that said, I believe it's still possible (edit: like StarBrand said) to create the cache page and get your GC number before submitting. Get it all setup, just leave the box unchecked that actually enables it. You'll see your GC # in the upper right. Write that on your container, hide it, then come back and enable the listing. That way too it won't annoy the FTF hounds who might go try to find it minutes after the listing posts.

Yup, 32 pieces. They count the lids and containers separately, so 16 complete containers. Agreed though still a great price, if I didn't have a bunch left from the last time I bought these on Woot, I'd pick this up.

I assume this first example would be rejected, but it's something to think about. What about roads that are named for towns, where the town is named for a person? For example, Marion-Mt. Gilead Rd. where Marion, Ohio is named for Francis Marion. So the road, by proxy, is named for a person. Also what about roads that changes name? It's common practice around here when a road runs over a county line, each county gives the road its own name. So on one end it might be Gooding Rd. and on the other end it's Curtis Rd. This is a real example in Marion and Delaware counties in Ohio. One road, named for two different people. Even then sometimes a road will change names at an intersection, or even a bend in the road. Claypool Rd. changes to Yake Rd. in Marion County, Ohio at an arbitrary bend. Again, one road, two people. So would this be 1 waymark for the entire road, or two..one at each end? That aside, I wonder about it being overly prevalent. Many of the roads around here are named for someone. Usually it was a local war vetaran who lived on that road, or simply the first settler who built a homestead. Later the wagon trail became a path, which became a road, and was named for that settler that lived there. In the area of Marion County, Ohio bounded by OH-529, OH-746, OH-98 and Waldo-Ashley Rd., I quickly count 13 roads named for a person. These people did play a role in the county by being settlers here and starting homesteads where they raised families that lead to the founding of nearby towns, counties, and the state itself. I think that strongly defining "played a role for the town/city/locale," like others mentioned, would help. Some subjectivity would come into play though, much like defining "famous" in the grave of a famous person category. Also, where should the Waymark be placed? At one of the ends, or somewhere in the middle at an intersection where there are road signs?

I would say Quarry Cache is my favorite cache that I own. It's a fun hike with nice views.

There have been a few I've visited that were well done, but for the most part I'm not a fan. As others have mentioned they sometimes end up as a prison, and if the cache gets stolen it can take out a lot of bugs in one go.

I found my first cache on 8/17/02 and placed my first one on 9/22/02. In that time I had found 21 and DNFed 3 caches. The cache did well, and cachers I spoke with enjoyed it. I eventually archived it after it washed away. It didn't really get many visitors, but there weren't nearly so many cachers at that time. So that was just the nature of placing a cache that wasn't all that close to the population of cachers. This past summer, after thinking about it for a long time, I placed a new cache in the same spot (well, within 150 feet) as that first one. The only things that I felt needed to be improved upon from the original was chaining it to a dead tree to keep it from washing away again. It's at a higher elevation now, so it shouldn't be an issue, but there is still a possibility. I also got written permission from the Ohio DNR since they added that requirement between the time when the original and new caches were placed.

I can't see it because my work blocks YouTube, and we're forced to use IE7 so it would probably choke even if I was allowed to see it. I could look it up on my phone, but from your first post you mentioned doing puzzles, so I got the jist of what you were getting at. I'll check it out when I get home if I think about it. I don't think there's anything wrong with puzzles, or anything like that, I just personally prefer a walk in the woods over puzzles. Around here there are lots of puzzles in the sense of "do math to get coords" or "figure out this cryptogram." All stuff you do before going to find the cache, and they seem to be pretty popular. There isn't anything that I know of like you've described, but I think it would be popular among many...as long as there is at least some indication that there are going to be some physical puzzles. As for why you haven't seen anything like that, I wonder if it's a matter of people not wanting to take on the task of maintaining them. When you have to take something from one stage to the next, there's a possibility of the magnet or whatever getting lost, or more likely just not returned to the cache from which it came. To that end it's a lot "easier" to toss down a bunch of 35mm film cans with coords, or have people get info from a sign than to put in the kind of effort to make a puzzle multi like you describe...basically people, myself include, are just lazy like that. Edit: I see others have mentioned pretty much the same thing. Also I wanted to add, I think there's an element of doing the same as everyone else. When a new cacher comes along they find a bunch of micros, LPCs, and a few ammo cans. So when they go to hide a cache they think that's how it's supposed to be done, and just do more of the same. So, while it stinks that you can't find your own caches, keep placing them. Hopefully over time the cachers in your area will see that it doesn't have to be the same thing over and over.

Bored today, Sven? Assuming you're asking a genuine question, and not just trying to get yourself banned again... I can't see the video, but I believe I understand what you're getting at. It's just a matter of different opinions. I personally have had more than my fill of puzzle caches, and don't have much interest in them. If there was a multi with a puzzle at every stage, I would likely never find it. However a 10 mile hike would interest me, and would be a cache I would seek.

Looks like maybe a very very strong HDR.

I run into the same issue when I use my phone for caching. I assume it's because the GPS is always on when using any Geocaching apps. As for other alternatives, GPS receivers really aren't that complicated to use. They do seem a little daunting at first, but most of them are pretty simple. The earlier Garmin series (eTrex, Legend, Venture, Summit, Vista) seem to be pretty easy to use, and relatively inexpensive as well. If you want to try them out first, you might drop by a local geocaching event. Most people will be more than happy to show you around a GPSr and talk about pro vs cons.

If you're wanting to reference a specific trackable, make sure to use the reference code as opposed to the actual tracking number that's on the tag. The reference codes can be found on the trackable's page on the left side. For example searching TB14KWK would take you to the page for a travel bug I found once, but it won't let you log it or anything like that. Using the actual tracking code would let anyone log the trackable.

First off, that really stinks. Sorry this happened to your caches. I think if this happened to my caches I probably wouldn't bother to report it. The chances that they signed the log with a legitimate user ID are slim. Even if Groundspeak bans their account, it's easy enough for them to sign up again. I don't know if they ban IPs, and even if they do there are plenty of ways around that.

You have a unique username, so it stood out to me when I saw it on here. I don't follow you I just followed you, and I don't think you're following me. I'm not terribly active on Twitter. I read much more than I post, but feel free to follow me if you want @mhaserodt. I've had little luck recruiting people who aren't already interested in Geocaching. It seems that if people aren't inherently interested then there's little I can do to get them interested.

It depends. Some people have logged past visits. Some people are OK doing that, others aren't. Just the same, some Waymark owners are OK with getting this kind of log (I personally am fine with it) others aren't and will delete the log. So it's up to you, but you might want to contact the Waymark owner to make sure it's OK with them first. Waymarking does not count toward your Geocaching finds/hides. All the numbers associated with Waymarking are exclusive to the Waymarking site. Benchmarking does show up here on the Geocaching site, but they don't contribute to your overall finds. Waymarks are pretty obvious. Normally there will already be a photo and description of what you're looking for. Since these are normally buildings, plaques, and other locations it's not too hard to find. Benchmarks on the other hand can be hard to find. Some of these aren't very exact or may not exist anymore. On some of them the coordinates shown were sort of calculated from looking at a map and can be way off. Depending on your son's age an interests Waymarking might not keep him interested. The whole "treasure chest" aspect of Geocaching isn't there. But, maybe he likes trains, or playgrounds, or roller coasters, or whatever, and you can visit sites that do interest him. My suggestion is to go to the Waymarking site, punch in your zip code in the search box, and see what's around you that might be fun to check out.

You'll likely get a variety of responses to this question. As for the point of Waymarking. Yeah, I guess it's to say you've been there, if that's how you look at it. For me it's a way of journaling places that are relavent to my interests. Waymarking could be seen as Geocaching without the container. To visit a Waymark you go to the coordinates listed, and take a photo of the item in question. Many times these will be historical, or otherwise interesting in nature. Although there are also some categories out there, such as the ones for chain restaurants, that were intended to be "informational" in nature. As for posting new Waymarks, there are various categories, such as Static Aircraft Displays, locations on the National Register of Historic Places, and all sorts of others. If you find something in your travels that fits into a category, and isn't already listed on the site, then you can add it. This requires coordinates taken at the site, usually at least one original photo, and a description of the location. Benchmarking is a different game than Waymarking, although some benchmarks are listed on the Waymarking site. Benchmarking involves visiting the location of survey markers that are all over the place. Again, no container or logbook. It's just for the sake of finding them. Some have been out there, and unfound for decades. Some are just on a sidewalk in the middle of town. Again, I think it depends on what one wants to get out of benchmarking. I've only done a small handfull of benchmarks, but I occasionally look for really old ones. Sometimes you can look and see how the area has changed. Maybe there used to be a road, or building that doesn't exist anymore. It sort of gets into the historical aspect for me, but benchmarking doesn't hold my interest like Waymarking does.

I hear you have to do some very bad things to earn that kind of punishment.

For those who missed out, keep an eye on Woot. This is the third or fourth time I've seen L&Ls come up, and they always seem to sell out fast. I've seen them a couple of times during Woot-Offs as well, though I never got in on them since they always seemed to come up at 2am. It's usually less than the 28 pc set, but they're priced accordingly. Edit to add: The 28 pc set came up in the last Woot-Off on Oct 11, for the same price as today. There was also a 10pc set for $4.99 and an 8pc set for $3.99 that came up over the course of the same Woot-Off.

Maybe they've already fixed it, but everything looks fine here.