Iphone 4 GPS is rubish in GPS Posted January 16, 2011 I'm curious - do the apps for the iPhone even have an "Average Waypoint" feature? These days, the community expects someone placing a cache to use this feature even on a good "dedicated" device. The Groundspeak App does not have an 'average' feature. Well isn't that just spiffy? gc.com isn't even aware of the community's "best practices", or if they are, didn't make it part of the spec requirement for an application that they knew full well would be used to place caches? No wonder folks are having trouble. I wouldn't insult finders by taking a "snapshot" coordinate to place a cache with any of my Garmin handhelds, much less something with fairly common drift issues like the iPhone. i'd be curious to know if there are many 'veteran' geocachers using iphone4's to make hides. i don't have a lot of finds and hides only because i'm a casual geocacher, but i've been doing it for a while. i have a garmin vista hcx and an iphone4 and would never think of making a hide with an iphone4, or making a hide without doing some serious averaging with my vista hcx. if i was out and about with my iphone4 and i was bored i might try to make a find with it but it will never take the place of my dedicated gps. is the popularity of the smartphone going to dilute the quality of hides, and geocaching in general? i could see it happening.