I downloade both programs last night. I just brought the garmin legend etrex. does anyone like that one. I haven't found my first one yet. trying to figure out how to enter in the coordinates. how do you do it from the computer with the sofware. with the g-sak it keeps saying australia? very frusterating not sure what I am doing wrong? do I have to enter them in manually all in on the keyboard if u have like 50 or more that would take a long time? thanks for the help take care....jen happy 4th of july anxious to cache!!