ArcherDragoon
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Many times...communities have ordinances about park hours. Locally, the ordinance states something along the lines of all park hours are 5am - 11pm unless otherwise posted at park entrances.
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All seemed fine to me...up until the statement about finding it on the ground...ALR...
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I have logged one of my own...but it was after I adopted it from someone moving out of the area...and I had to go out and find it in order to replace it (container was in bad shape).
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It appears to be working now...
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After a pretty intense hike followed by a challenging bike ride all for 3 caches, two of which were FTF I got to thinking. I quit smoking three years ago and now am in amazing shape thanks to to geocaching, but mainly due to challenging traditionals but on the other hand I'd like to know how many people went the other way, from great health to the verge of a coronary because they decided puzzle caches were the way to go and sitting on their butts in front of the computer was a cool new pastime instead of getting outdoors and being active.
Geocaching, savior or killer?
Just say no to puzzles!
In a way...I find myself going the other way with puzzles. I am slowly archiving mine and not really going after them because of the "inactive" effect. Sitting in front of a computer trying to solve something is too much of an opportunity for the urge to snack. Many puzzles recently want to keep pushing the envelope of how hard something is...and yes...I admit...it was a "game" I played...but...no longer...I can't do it for the sake of my own health.
An on-site puzzle...sure...gets me out an moving...but the puzzle for the sake of being a puzzle...no longer...if I want to continue on the road I decided to start...I can no longer sit in front of a computer for hours on end solving puzzles...
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Minnesota State Parks has had something going for a couple years now...
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Challenges that are more about "homework" then they are about discovering/accomplishing something...
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Wow...sometimes OPs don't even need to put bait on the hook!
I say 'BAN first to finds'... 'BAN them completely, no-one should be allowed to be FTF on any cache ever again'
Here's the irony, without FTFs geocaching does not exist.
Actually...it does...I have plenty...went I don't record them...and still...somehow...geocaching is still active in the area...and more surprising...the caches I found first but didn't say anything about being first were not sucked up in some weird geocaching black hole!!!
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...But, if need be...I would just stop hiding caches...simple enough...and I would leave the code in a cache if I were ever first to find...
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I won't list the name but there is a cache near me that is a multi listed as a traditional. This way only stage one has to meet the distance requirements. Annoyed some of the people who found it because they only got a traditional listed on their statistics.
This ^^^
I have found several of these in my hometown so I suspect it is a prevalent practice.
If I found one of these I think a note to the reviewer would be in order.
Agreed...
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I am still around...just not as much as I used to be...I should probably get back into Off-Topic where someone like me belongs...
I usually am referred to as..."What a Snoogan Smart-Snoogan"....
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Son of a Snoogans!!!
(Right...like someone like me was just going to ignore that...)
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If a puzzle offends you, then simply ignore it. I'm not sure why that's a difficult concept to understand.
Kinda how I feel about your position. I'm not sure why you can't understand that your cache was DENIED. Move on with another family friendly cache.
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As I noted previously, the original version of my cache page contained neither the web address nor the name of the podcast. Part of the challenge was to figure out which podcast it was. Even if there was a link, the podcast homepage isn't family unfriendly. There would have to be at least two innocent clicks.
Despite the lack of a web address or podcast name, both the Volunteer Reviewer and Groundspeak Appeals deemed the cache to be family unfriendly.
I guess I'm confused. Are you saying there was NO reference to the podcasts/website on your page? No link, no web address, no name of the podcast, etc. How would the reviewer and appeals make the connection that to solve your cache, you'd have to visit a family unfriendly site?
Yes, when I first submitted my cache for review, it contained neither a web address nor a podcast name. It did include the names of the two hosts. And the "Additional Hint" provided a clue about the podcast's city.
The reviewer knew the podcast was not family friendly because the cache page has always included a prominent warning about the podcast's crude language. I was also very upfront with the reviewer from the very beginning and included the podcast's name and web address in a "Reviewer Note."
If there is a link...what if you just removed it? Then it'd be no different from the myriad of other puzzles where the solver has to search around and find the correct page on their own.
That's what I thought, too.
Except...in order to solve the puzzle one needs to listen to crude content...
While the concept of such a puzzle is common (listening to materials)...I think you pushed the line to far by basically requiring people to do that (listen to crude, offensive, or objectionable) material. Yes, I know and get it that not all people do puzzles...and puzzles are not for everyone...but using that "Reasoning" for why this cache should be published is pushing the limits as well. In my opinion...the content of the puzzle...and thus the cache crossed the line.
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Just curious about the level of not friendly. Can you supply a path to the pod cast w/o posting a link which could lock the thread (or at least get deleted).
One podcast host frequently uses profanity and makes sexual innuendos. Usually dozens of times during each episode. The other host does so occasionally.
I agree the podcast episodes are family unfriendly. I don't expect children to listen to the podcasts. My cache is intended for adults, just like geocaching events held in pubs are intended for adults.
I think you hit the answer to your own question right there...
"My cache is intended for adults..." - In other words...not a family
"I agree the podcast episodes are family unfriendly." - Then why base a puzzle on them???
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So I am new to Geocaching. Tacoma WA area. I love it I do it with my 2 year-old helps keep me heart healthy and is great fun with her. The long term geocachers a few of them seem to feel they are the gods of geocaching. I admit I am in amazement myself at the number of finds.
I do say congrads to them I hope to be there someday. I have met 9 geocachers. 7 were realy nice had great conversation one was polite the last one said hi very quickly and scooted past me angery look on his face. I do think most are very great people but i think they get caught up in drama. Like in highschool with the Cliques the popular group the nerds the unknowns. I feel that is what is happing now the popular cachers telling the Freashman cachers which way the wind blows. A vetren Cacher of thousands of finds told me to just ignore it. I'm not that way I think we all can be friends in Geocaching. So how do you befriend the geocachers that just want to fight with you about placement ?
Not everyone is social...just ignore it an move on. I have met a couple people that just didn't care to be around people in general...
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So list it as a Regular...
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Well if I was going to cross a marsh which is covered in snow, and on getting there I saw footprints in the snow going in roughly the same direction I wanted to go I would follow those tracks, clearly the person who made them (you) didn't fall into a hole, or river, or off the edge of a cliff, and I can see from the footprints how deep the snow I'm about to step on is, so I know it's gonna be a safe path. I'd probably follow that trail even if it wasn't going exactly the direction I wanted to go, and then adjust my route once I get off the marsh.
Maybe you're seeing a threat that doesn't exist?
Same Here...
Caching in the winter...I will us other's tracks to help get where I want to go.
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I am going to bet there is a "regional uproar" about the logs and Groundspeak...an "entitled sense of control" seems to be the main theme when items such as this come up.
While I would agree...having your logs deleted is uncalled for by the cache owner...having them reinstated then deleted by Groundspeak means there is a whole lot more to this situation then any of us my be able to know about at this time.
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Again...keep in mind...proximity issues are present for everyone...not just Premium vs Nonpremium Members. Simply put, one needs to check with a reviewer if there ever is a question...and even then, one just has to be prepared to move or retrieve a failed attempt. Even in the recent year I have been "turned down"...just one of those moments...it happens...
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I can't believe that you didn't believe toz knew about pie day!!! My world is blown...into 3.14159... pieces!!!
Apparently, I'm the only one who did not know about pie day. It's nothing against Toz; I should have figured that if anyone knew about it, he would. I'm just waiting for national donut day, myself.Friday, June 7th...
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All this radius and diameter talk reminded me that tommorow is Pi day.
Oh, man, you're right!
Not only is that a good coincidence, I can't believe you actually knew about it.
I can't believe that you didn't believe toz knew about pie day!!! My world is blown...into 3.14159... pieces!!!
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Interesting teaching moment being discussed here. We can't have what we want, so we'll just walk away from the problem? Is that what you are doing with your family time? But as my sister used to point out to me-you cannot possibly understand since you don't have any children. What I do understand is that not every cache is out there for every cacher. I tend to ignore most of the puzzles in my area. I understand I might have trouble hiding a new cache within 2 miles of any of them, as that is what is in the guidelines. So I check with the reviewer to see if a spot is available to me.
I also understand that some puzzles and multis can be very educational and fun for the family at the same time. There is a new cacher in our area who is an elementary school teacher. He's hidden several caches as part of his lesson plans, one of which is a math puzzle I might have to ask my youngest nephew for help on. I don't remember my fractions very well, it's been a few years. One of my multis is a 6 stage walking tour of downtown Raleigh. It isn't found often, as many people do ignore multis in the pursuit of a higher find count. But those who do take the time to find it comment on the educational value and the quality time spent with family working on the puzzle elements.
Please do not abandon your container, that does make it trash. Please work with your reviewer to find a good spot that you can place it in, and teach your children that lesson instead.
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The point of bringing a reviewers name out is so that others can see if this is a track record and if it necessary for the community to come together. Many reviewers have lasted much longer than their due because the forum tends to ban or suspend users for even mentioning it. Moderators also aren't consistent. I got a seven day suspension for making a general joking statement about reviewers, yet here (thankfully) the discussion continues.
In other words, transparency is not always the priority with Groudspeak unfortunately.
There is also a serious lack of reviewers. You'd think for being unpaid positions, they'd have about 100 more reviewers. Many just are overwhelmed and not able to give the attention needed to assist cachers in fixing issues and coming up with solutions.
Ah...yes...Mob Justice...always the way to go...
If one has issues with a reviewer...they should always be taken to Groundspeak...not aired in the forums.
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Apparently, I'm the only one who did not know about pie day. It's nothing against Toz; I should have figured that if anyone knew about it, he would. I'm just waiting for national donut day, myself.
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logging multiple finds on one cache
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