Ellteejak
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lets talk apples:
Garmin Legend Color (not the Cx version ) is around $200
Garmin 60CSX is around $420.
When geocaching EVERYONE is saying put the GPS away when you get within 20 feet. Are we all saying that the Legend Color at times will FAIL to get you to within 20 feet? I doubt it. Geocaches would have some very high difficulty ratings and numerous failure to find (FTFs) listed if the generic cheap GPS was having problems.
That said, the 60CSX is "future proof" for maybe five years, as I doubt there would be any new incredible technology coming along to compete with it. (or its cousin 76CSX or other SIRFIII chip GPS devices). If you have the money and you want one SUPER UNIVERSAL CAN DO ANYTHING ANY OTHER GPS CAN DO, ONLY BETTER type device then the 60CSX is your man!!
If I owned a 60CSX I would say it is the best too, but I still think that for that price difference extra $220 + $30 more you could get a Ique 3600 PDA with maps, voice autorouting, cachemate geocache clues, expandable memory, downloaded web pages to read, adobe documents to read, external antenna connector, car mount/power, large screen, note taking device.
Thanks for the replys.
I just returned the Vista C and ordered a 60csx from chumbo. Should be here today. I'll let you know how it works.
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Palm Tungsten T3, and an AA battery backup
external palm keyboard
Data cable between the Palm and the GPS
Pathaway software to upload custom maps, once you find a source.
This summer I will be hiking hut to village to hut in Switzerland, and as I will be carrying all my belongings on my back my laptop will be staying at home. I will need to use a PDA as a "substitute computer" for that trip, and I know absolutely nothing about PDAs.
My requirements (other than the standard features) are:
1. Ability to store many routes and waypoints, calculated before the trip, and to easily exchange information with both my computer and my GPSr. It would also be nice if I could do some editing of the data as I download it from my GPSr.
My GPSr (Garmin GPSmap 76CS) has both USB and serial connections; as I own a USB cable I would obviously prefer to use it. My current computer is not Bluetooth enabled, but my next one will be, so that would be a nice feature.
Please note that I will not be using the PDA to display maps; just to store (and edit) data.
2. Keyboard, as I will be keeping a diary.
3. Long battery life, as I will occasionally be away from available power sources for up to four days (the huts have electricity, but no outlets for guests to use).
What hardware/software combination would you recommend? I would like components that are standard, especially connecting cables (I understand nothing about wiring diagrams!!).
Thanks!!!
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Try to look for an older used copy of Mapsource to save some bucks. I think the major roads have not changed much in five years, so maybe you can get away with an older version (do not beat me up on this people!). I always like printed paper maps (like from Microsoft Streets & Trips), and an actual commercial road map
Ever see that commercial yet where the guy drives into the store because he is OBEYING his voice GPS? I know, I know, it is an urban legend, but I could see some people doing that.
I am using my Legend C for GPS in the woods on foot, when I could drop it.
If I want road navigation I need $150 for the road kit? Come on!! Better to spend $100 more and get a second gps, get the Ique 3600 PDA so you can do more. Be my clone!!! I am going to try to put Ique mapsource maps on my Legend C since I own both (both in the mail) and I think the activation/authorization code for mapsource might work with two units maximum. Hope I am right, but we will see.
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Just wanted to say thankyou to RED90 and TEAMYARBER for all the great technical advice/comments. I am learning a lot more about what technology possibilities are out there.
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I just looked and found the Palm Lifedrive that has a large internal hard drive. I can even find a SD card with GPS that will work in the Lifedrive. The combination cost does not seem too optimal to replace my GPS-Cellphone-PDA-IPOD, at least not yet. Give it five years and we should see a better combined solution that is proven and hardened for real life use.
I was also looking at the Blackberry GPS applications. There is quite a lot available for the Blackberry. You might be able to pull off a combined PDA-GPS-Cellphone by getting a Blackberry.
I would have thought that there would be PPC models out there that have internal drives and 30GB or 60GB. If the IPOD can do it why not a PPC? Well if you (or any) see such a PPC with a large hard drive let me know. (let us all know).
I haven't used an Ipod so I can't compare, but there is lots of PPC video & audio/music software out there. But the largest SD or CF memory card available I believe is 6 GB and is quite pricey. The largest memory card I have is 1gb, but i have several along with all the "grandfather" cards from previous PDA's & digital camera's (6-32's/4-128's/2-256's/3-512's mb's). Memory wise you've got me beat by far.
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I would have thought that there would be PPC models out there that have internal drives and 30GB or 60GB. If the IPOD can do it why not a PPC? Well if you (or any) see such a PPC with a large hard drive let me know. (let us all know).
I haven't used an Ipod so I can't compare, but there is lots of PPC video & audio/music software out there. But the largest SD or CF memory card available I believe is 6 GB and is quite pricey. The largest memory card I have is 1gb, but i have several along with all the "grandfather" cards from previous PDA's & digital camera's (6-32's/4-128's/2-256's/3-512's mb's). Memory wise you've got me beat by far.
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Now I am extremely jealous!! You must killed on sight so I can steal your toy!! Well looks like I know what I want sooner or later for my next toy.
Is there any pocket PC software that emulates/simulates/does as good as an IPOD? I can sell my IPOD and just consolidate into one SUPER universal device. I have the 30GB IPOD video. Can your PPC PDA play video?
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Check, I do have the 337, (307=late night, bleary eyes). This card does come with an antenna port (the retailer tossed in the antenna for free. cool!) I've only had to use the MMCX external antenna once though, I get 3d locks inside warehouses, buildings, deep woods, where ever with no external antenna all the time.
Yes, the model 3600 otter box handles the cf card with ease, it also has add-on case components, top and bottom to fit your cards or battery packs. My PDA is probably the largest you can buy now & it fits in the case with the CF card perfectly.
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Vendor answered the questions.
1) It has an external antenna. You can use it for improved reception but it is not required.
2) The device works with all NMEA software.
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I was looking at the CF GPS from Globalsat called the BC-337 with the SIRFIII chipset. It supposedly has as an accessory an external antenna.
So does this CF card have an external antenna?
Also the web site mentioned it is not compatable with the newest version of Windos Mobile PC, I think I saw that someone here was using it. So I assume it works with the older versions of windows mobiles for PPC?
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Bottom line: BLUETOOTH on continuously (when you are storing a track that you are walking) will kill a battery in less than five hours.
One person said this IS NOT true. Can I hear more opinions about BLUETOOTH killing the PDA batteries?
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Try to find a way to get a Garmin Legend Color on sale somewhere. I bought mine for $180 on sale, with shipping.
It will be the only solution that meets your needs as stated.
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Even though I just bought a Garmin Ique 3600 PDA-GPS (with Palm software) I have to admit that your setup is a slick efficient optimal solution.
I was looking to see what the total could cost me if I switch platform to MS Pocket PC with a CF GPS. Glad you were fully honest about the $600 cost. I would say the equivalent on the Palm platform with some compromises in performance but still competitively functional (not the largest screen, not the fastest processor, not the easiest software) is the Ique 3600 with auto/car kit and some kind of protective case (to be bought for $400 total).
The only change from your system I would suggest is to trade up to the BC-337 with SirfIII chip. Your older CF slot GPS card is a SirfII card. With the SirfIII the rumor is that if you cant find and use satellites, you must be inside a metal elevator, shielded from all RF energy. I guess you are implying that the OTTER BOX can handle the CF card and patch attenna sticking out at the top, and protect it as well?? Wish these CF GPS cards had some kind of external antenna connector, to allow me to attach a glisson antenna if I wanted to use one.
I use a Toshiba e-830 with a USGlobalSat BC-307 CF GPS Receiver with Pocket Streets when I'm driving & GPSDASH 4 when I'm caching. Ive found Pocket streets & trips more than adequate for my navigation needs. Maps can be easily made on my desktop and are relatively small in size when compared to other software, There isn't any update fee and you can make a map & route from Canada to Mexico. Total cost including software was around the $600 mark but I purchased the PDA well before catching the Geocaching bug so my GPSin' cost was around $190, so for under $200 I have a killer GPS, with the largest, best looking color PDA screen, on the market, that can play mp3's, videos or video games, connects to the internet, oh and is a neat little office work station in a pinch.
I get about 5 hours with the back light on the lowest setting on the main battery. When I plug in my Nimh rechargeable external battery pack(4-2500 AA's) I can get 16+ hours total run time (Bonus of the battery pack setup is I can use the batteries in my digital camera and recharge my cell phone with it). If I use "screen off" software, i'll last for days. (The screen off software turns off your screen, saving battery power but leaves your PDA on keeping your GPS hot, also one the cool options is linking the screen off function to a pda button so you turn your screen on & off quickly & easily) You can get a freeware version here:
http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=14498
I chose the CF card over bluetooth just because of the power drain issue and the multiple batteries/charging complication (although I do have to charge the battery pack). With bluetooth on I get 3-4 hours on my main battery.
I use my setup in the woods all the time but I bought an Otterbox 3600 case and use it religiously. My first night out with it, I (275 #'s) fell fully on top of it after slipping on a patch of ice. I came out bruised, the PDA didn't even turn off, the case wasn't scratched but my stainless steel thermos looked like a crushed pop can. If you use your PDA on the trail I'd suggest you invest in one of these cases, they are absolutely bullet proof!
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I think you can run cachemate on your Palm PDA . Just give it a try. cachemate does not take much memory. just upload like 10 caches, and see what happens.
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Sorry I did not get back to you on this. I would have trouble reading my PDA in the field (always had trouble seeing one). So I am getting a field GPS. I think I will be keeping my new Garmin Legend C (if it has a good storage for POIs, and can use them), along with using the Ique 3600 in the car. Not using TomTom as I will just use the garmin Mapsource that came with the PDA.
I think your TOMTOM solution is great. It got superior reviews by several tough groups (I think consumer reports, etc.). Why do you want to change? Just get an armored case for your PDA and you are set.
That smashed PDA just sounds like someone made a bad mistake. My PDA is in the field with me all the time. I have dropped it, but I usually don't
Man I'm daft...this never even occured to me (armored case).
Can you read the screen in the daylight with your PDA? I assume you have a separate GPS for the "off road stuff? Or are you using TomTom and just dealing with no detail?
I do love the TomTom, except the maps are slightly inferior to Garmin...I noticed it was missing information for the roads leading to my office in Colorado Springs. But I figured out a way to make a waypoint in Mapsource and loaded it to TomTom as a POI, and then marked the POI as a favorite to really make it stand out. Sounds like I can also accomplish this by enterting location into GSAK and then converting to POI. Anyway, I'm curious to see if it will actually understand my destination is another 3 blocks further than where the road ended (I work in MD but will be visiting the CO Springs area where I'm not familiar).
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Connecticut has like 20 waypoints listed. Yet for Geocaches we have like over 500, maybe even a 1000.
Like I said I am still not finding the "MOTHER OF ALL" POI web sites, if one even exists.
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Looks like the paid PathAway software does this for the Ique 3600. For $60 that is not bad. Then Path Away can use any map software that I have to use as a calibrated basemap.
Then I use Garmin Mapsource software for auto routing.
Or I can use the free BIRD FINDER software to do the same as PathAway but no maps.
The Etrex Legend color has proximity alarms. It can do autorouting too (for $150 extra), but I would rather spend another $100 and get my Ique 3600.
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There is a TOMTOM web site for POIs, but this is european based and it does not have much there (maybe 500 points of varied subject). I looked at the waypointing.org web site and did not find much there for POIs. Guess there is no META/SUPER/GLOBAL site for POIs anywhere?
At least no one is talking.
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I have a mapopilis coupon Code for $20 off the full Mapopolis version regular $100. It looks like I can't use it, but if anyone has anything (advise - hey that is worth something, free software, MP3/IPOD song list - not the songs!!) that they are willing to trade, I am willing to pass it on to you.
Hope it will work and that it is not coded to my name or something.
Posting here first, then GPSPassion web site, and BargainPDA web sites too.
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I am trying to find web sites that list POINTS OF INTEREST that can be uploaded to my GPS. I see that some GPS manufacturers have them. But I would think there would be some central area that has them too.
GPS Passion at www.gpspassion.com sort of has them. I see some sites/countries have listings of all the SPEED TRAPS for upload to the GPS (Slick!!).
But I am more looking at general points of interest.
Please respond here, or email me direct to let me know of sources.
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Guess I need to look in the Garmin manual under GEOCACHE section for my Etrex Legend C. Thanks for the note!!
I have a 76CSx. When it is in Geocache mode an alarm goes off when I am near a cache. I can also manually set a proximity alarm around any waypoint I want. It will set off an alarm when I get within a distance I set around a waypoint. This is my first GPSr and I just got it but I am pretty sure there is no way to set an alarm is you go off track. It would sure be a nice feature, especially for river navigation.
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Can you tell me if POI data points can be set with proximity alarms on the Legend?
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I asked this in a number of different ways. I am looking for alarms when I am near a POI (aka Point Of Interest) and I am looking to create my own.
Also looking to set some kind of "off track" warning when I am hiking.
Sorry if I am repeating myself, but I do not have a good undderstanding of "alarmed" POIs yet.
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Do POI data points/ waypoints work on any GPS and can you set up a proximity alarm for your POIs? How hard is it to do this on say a Garmin Legend Color or a Ique 3600?
Paperless Caching....amazing
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well we are getting good at hitting things with our military stuff now, and getting good at automating airplane landings, so pilots dont make human error with ease.
We are also getting good at creating mcirochips that know how to process RF infoormation more effectively (higher accuracy, faster like the SirfIII). Yep it is all good.