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As was stated above, the most common "center" is the Centroid, which is where the mass center is represented.

Seems to be working again.

Yep.

After a bit more reading, I created a gmail account. Works like a charm.

Wow...that pegged my BS meter. 98 out of 100 SPAM messages also use the word "THE" somewhere in the body of the email. Let's block those, too. That was my first thought too. I'll just try out my Yahoo mail account.

Thanks, but I guess I should have said "Gmail is working fine for me". My reply was more for the OP. And you don't need invites for gmail anymore...it is open to everyone. I got this from my ISP: geocaching.com uses the address "noreply" for their weekly notifications, which will be rejected by our servers. Since noreply is most often used by spammers (about 98 out of 100 messages), it does not warrant allowing mail addressed from that address. You could try to contact them and see if they'll make their newsletters come from a more respectable address, but what I've done for geocaching.com is to setup a Hotmail account and have those weekly notifications sent there.

software developement is not an easy or quick thing. Just look how many times Windows Vista's release date was pushed back. This stuff takes time, especially on a production system. have to change code, and test it in a testing environment and get all the bugs out of those changes before migrating to the production environment and going 'live'. It may be a slow process, but if done right (and I have faith that jeremy, et al. are doing things right) will be well worth the wait. I guess I phrased that wrong - I meant how long for the TB logs, etc... to update. My stuff finally did get updated - took about 8 hours.

Yep - it took a day for one of my TB logs to show up, and then it showed up in my "picked up" log instead of my "placed" log..... I really wish that Groundspeak would "sync up the servers" or "feed the hamsters" or whatever they're calling it. I DO pay to play here.

It's a huge hiccup - those hamsters will be starving to death soon! I think so... I have two Approved "Unapproved cache"s hanging out waiting for more hamsters....

It's taking all day to update the TB's. I logged one this morning, and the search page still doesn't show it, end the log doesn't show updates either. That and getting SQL errors all day.... How many hours does it take to update things?

lol - like I said, do some searching.

I'll agree to disagree with you on this one. Difficulty and Terrain are not mutually exclusive of one another. What???? *sigh* One tries to rate "how hard" a cache is, one tries to rate "how steep/rugged" a cache is to find, and both depend somewhat on the other. With criteria from one affecting the other, it becomes guesswork as to what the true numbers should be. Do a search and you'll read more than you care to. Ah, Never mind.

I'll agree to disagree with you on this one. Difficulty and Terrain are not mutually exclusive of one another.

There've been many threads on the topic, and the only thing that I got out of them is that the rating system is Poor at best. Even the Difficulty and Terrain don't make logical sense and overlap... It's a crap shoot, until Groundspeak decides to make something logical.

Any resolution to this?

But that's the attitude I'm getting from you. You're judging me the same way you're accusing me of judging you and your geocaching. I'm not going to bother explaining myself to you and you can make your own mind up on what my "feel for caching truly is". Thank you for pointing out the other cachers in my "part of the state" who could do a better job - a few of them are my sponsors on another site with a better history that yours. Sorry that I came across as irritating to you. But my main argument stands: There's no excuse for placing 'caches "just because we think we can". later.

p.s. - where's Chubbuck?

You must live in fear. I place caches where I can. That's a world of difference from where I think I can. When I need permission I obtain it, where I don't, I don't. Thus far with more than 50 caches placed and 1000 found it's worked. Private property is all well and good but if the world is reduced to a narrow corridor between my house and work and I can only leave that road for legitimate and legally authorized business purposes, what the heck would be the point? Private property taken to an extreme is every bit as bad as communism and no private property at all. Fear? No. I have Respect. Respect for others and other's property, be it public (mine and yours), or private. Putting your own property on anothers just because you think that's your right is just silly in my mind. You "place caches where you can"? If you tried to place a cache in my front yard without my permission, you might want to wear one of those fancy vests.

Not even close. I live in northern Idaho (Idaho has 22 million acres of BLM land by the way) and have been in contact with the local Forest Service Ranger (who I've known for years) trying to figure out a way to keep Geocaching going in the Forest (they don't like it, I've been trying to convince them otherwise). Elbow room? No. I have plenty. I just don't agree with the current GC.com mentality that it's OK to put a chache anywhere that a person thinks they won't get "busted" for it. Caches placed in parking lots regardless of "good intentions" get on my nerves. I pay taxes for public land, as well as my own land, and times are a changin. GC.com putting it's collective head in the sand when it comes to "permission" will be it's downfall.

I stole it from letterboxing. But as far as I know GC.com merely addresses the adequate permission angle which covers all land types and ownership. Technicaly you can get permission to place caches in areas that don't accomodate the public or which are not good locations for a cache regardless. Public accomodation, suitability, and adequate permission work hand in hand. If what you say is true, then GC.com is a farce. Placing a cache somewhere just because you think you can is idiotic in the extreme.

Without express permission? Anywhere where I won't mind talking to the owner about the cache being there even if they didn't know about it before. That's just stupid. Apparently you don't live in an area where someone might take a shotgun to your abdomen while placing a cache on their property "even if they didn't know about it"... ????

What's your definition of "adequate"? Really, I'm curious...

I'm truly curious (I really don't know about public accomidation), does GC.com say that?

lol I guess he couldn't wait the 14 minutes for an answer. (I didn't even realize I had replied to him in two different threads) But I do find it interesting that so many fun lovin' family type folks put out caches "assuming" that they have permission to place caches wherever they think is a "neat place"... There's a funny quote about "assume" - it makes an ___ out of _ and __...