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Heh - didn't think of it that way, but that describes it fairly well. ah, ah. Don't quote me out of context. I'm going to have to find something interesting to say at all my finds from now on. I'll just have to be more selective on the caches that I am going for so it'll be easier for me to come up with something.

Guess I am in the minority, while I have a couple palms (III, Vx and Tungsten) I use my ipaq with GPXSonar. If you don't already have one I assume an older palm would be cheaper to pick up used on e-bay.

Heh - didn't think of it that way, but that describes it fairly well.

I definitely don't think you're in the minority here. I'd have to agree with this - too. "I've never seen Walmart from this angle before, I'd like to thank you for such a wonderful view of the lawn and garden section. I'm trying to figure what possessed you to place this here?" I think it's more the problem of quantity over quality. With placements and with cachers. When there were 5 caches in the area the logs were close to an entire page, now there is 500 caches and they're pretty much either TNLNSL or a copy and paste of the "We found 60 of them today this is one of them..." I'm going to have to remember though to put a little more effort into the good cache logs again. Since getting back into the game I have succumbed to the "tnlnsl" types of logs.

Hehe, nothing wrong with a lotta a**. A few points that the original poster didn't add w/o giving away too much information. Tools are no longer required. The sign isn't a street/traffic sign. It's in a park parking lot. The city it's placed in doesn't have any official policies on geocaching, nor did the person I talked to ever hear of geocaching before. So it's probably safe to assume permission wasn't given. Unless I just got the parks department newb. All that being said, and not sure who was the one to change the tools required part - the sign post is pretty scratched up because apparently people have no idea how to use a wrench when it was required.

Nice! So... they can be turned into CITO events?

Very OT - oddly enough this is pantented. US Pat No. 20050245321. Ambitious list - although I'd like to see some caches like that in this area - I have 5 ready to place and wrote down some critera for placing them - just need get some more caches under my belt so I know where and how I want to place them. Too much flatland and farms around here, a little difficult to get the Terrain value up or to get scenic views. I am little more worried about maintenance - I can get some nice woods and 3+ terrain, but it's going to be a drive. Unless I go underwater or something crazy.

Man, am I jealous - my 10 mile radius contains 15 lpcs, a bunch easter eggs in plastic bags stuck in bushes, and 19 coffee creamer jars wrapped in duct tape sitting under park benches. Back on topic - the more difficult the better as long as it's reflected in the difficulty rating. A nano in the woods is fine as long as I know that's what I am looking for. As many others have said - I'll search until it stops being fun - then I'll probably search a little longer.

Take a look at CacheMagnet. I use that and GeoBuddy. CacheMagnet is free - uses GPX files, or you can type in coords. Both of them are excellent - ymmv.

Agreed. It takes a little while. My little rant that no one will care about - but I want to type anyway. Funny, this being my first post and all. My wife and i were just talking about this today. So I decided to add my two cents worth - from an old timer. We went to our first event this weekend - seems like if you don't have 500 finds then you are a newbie. I got a nice 'welcome' to the sport with my 50 finds. Oddly enough, my friends and I started doing this about a month after SA was turned off - logged my first 'official' cache here in April '01 and have been active (in some capacity) ever since. Never worried about logging caches, many times we were enjoying the trip more than the destination or what we were experiencing rather than adding a number to the counter. Heck, I remember doing caches that were, "There's the ammo box, ok - done. Let's go check out that waterfall." or whatever the owner wanted us to see or do. Sign a log or e-mail the owner but not log anything here - heck I know I have done caches down to Florida and back on vacation, but I don't see them in my 'online log' so I guess I didn't really do them. Most everyone I've met now has a year or so 'experience' and close to 1000 finds. I never really stopped, but I did slow down to a couple caches a year for a few years in there, but started back when I got a family member into the sport earlier this year - he needed someone to go with him, so I started up 'full time' again. I guess I see the downturn since I live in the middle of microspew. Every parking lot in town has an LPC, couple of the parks in the area have 8-10 micros on a single trail, or one park has 6 cammo'd peanut butter jars with a pencil, a logbook, and a broken mctoy all within throwing distance of each other. The signal to noise ratio is just really bad now. Some of the numbers people in the area have bragged about 100+ caches in a weekend - to me, that speaks of the quality of caches in an area. The early caches were exactly what many of you have said, something special - somewhere that's nice to go or visit whether there is a cache there or not. The swag was excellent - look at what people placed in the first caches - look what people traded. To be fair - there are some caches out there now that are excellent. All that being said - I'm glad to see the sport has taken off, and glad people enjoy finding lpc's and running up their numbers - it's just not for me. I check the satellite maps, check the logs, customize my pocket queries and now that I am getting to know the cachers in the area again and know who hides crap and who to go looking for. I am slowly cutting out my 1/1 and 1/<3 caches from the queries and will go from there to what I am happy with, because I can. Instead of sitting here and doing nothing about it though - I went out yesterday and bought some ammo cans and lock n' locks and will be putting out my own series of caches - heck, I even ordered some bison tubes and will put out some micros - you can be sure that they will be 5/? though and there'll not be a parking lot in sight. That's enough of me - I'll be quiet for another 6 years.