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I had another friend get one of their logs deleted a few years ago on a 3 stage driving multi. The stages are 3-5 miles apart, and he'd grabbed the first 2 stages at different times when he was in the area. One day he decided to go out and grab the final, and the owner deleted his log because at that time stage 2 was missing. They said there was no way he could have found the cache, but it never occurred to him that someone might not complete it all at once. That's why it's always a good idea to check before deleting anything.

Many cachers like to log their caches in order so they can see how many miles of caches they've cached and things like that. When a log is deleted, even if they relog it, that info will never be calculated correctly from that point on, so it wouldn't be a bad idea to contact the person first before deleting the log to see why you couldn't find their name in the log book. Around here, a common practice is for cachers to cache under a "group" name if there's several people going out together. When they find a cache, they'll sign in as "Tuesday Caching Crew" or "Friday's Fun Fest." If the cache is a micro or name, they might even sign in as TCC or FFF. Sometimes they'll just use the first initial of each person's caching name, so if you look at the logs, you'll never actually see their individual names. I had a friend whose log got deleted once because the owner didn't see their names in the log. After contacting her and describing the hide, the owner rechecked the log and found the signature. My friend simply unrolled the log and signed in the first blank spot he found, so the owner emailed him back and warned him if he didn't want his future lots to be deleted, he'd better sign it in the proper spot and the proper chronological order.

Relocating to the correct section.

c:geo is an app that accesses the site in a way that is not approved by Groundspeak. I'm not a programmer, so I don't know how it works technically, but Groundspeak makes an API available for free that connects directly to the site to almost any developer that would like to use it. For whatever reason, c:geo refuses to use it and continues to access the site in a way that violates Groundspeak's Terms of Service. Unfortunately, what most people don't realize is that by using the app, they are in turn violating the Terms of Service. If someone is not happy with the official app, Groundspeak has a list of approved apps for Android, Blackberry, iPhone and Windows Phones located here: http://www.geocaching.com/live/default.aspx Some developers charge for the apps and some give them away for free.

Please do not bump old threads. If there's a personal question regarding a user, please contact them directly. My family & I have sent out coins and TBs that were picked up and never moved along. Unfortunately, that's a chance we take when sending things out into the wild.

The cache is back in action. Time to close the thread since it's veering from the original topic.

Agree. A cache just came out around here that had over 10 logged DNFs, but actually a lot more attempts because not everyone who tried logged one. If no one had logged one, it would just look like people aren't doing it and the owner would have not know that the coords were over 50 feet off. I would guess that's about right. When I cache with others, it seems that about half of those I'm with won't log them.

Just a reminder that even if there is a disagreement amongst users, please treat everyone with respect. Thanks!

Looks like the question has been solved, so closing the thread.

Closing duplicate thread.

Closing thread at OPs request.

Earlier in the evening pages weren't coming up at all. They are coming up now, but when submitting a log, the submission often times out, and the log has to be submitted a couple times before it goes through successfully. Uploading photos is also doing the same thing.

Closing duplicate topic. Please see this post: http://forums.Groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=292559

I found the original thread (my typing skills weren't the best when I was searching for it originally), so I closed that one with a link to the new one. That way people aren't saying the same thing in two places. Everything should be good to go now.

Closing duplicate thread - please see this one. http://forums.Groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=292211

I wasn't able to find the original thread to merge them together, and I didn't want to close this thread because of that. Generally, it's not recommended to create separate threads just to bump a post. Simply replying to it will move it to the top, and your video, even though it's down further in the thread will still be visible.

Relocated to the GPS and Technology section.

I will just respectfully say that I believe you have incorrectly assessed the situation. It is an important topic. Most of the respondents have participated in good faith, but not everyone. I will also say that about a year and a half ago the moderating staff allowed a very similar type of poster to run freely for much longer than he should have been allowed and it ended very, very badly. No one truly knows what others are thinking, but it's important that people are heard and allowed to express their opinion, especially with something important like this. People like to argue over lots of different things, some are serious and some not so much. This is serious because things like this can impact all cachers. I try to see the best in everyone and hope that when people post, they do it within the guidelines and without personal attacks against each other. If not, then those situations will be delt with when they arise. My hope is that doesn't need to be done.

This is a very important subject that should be discussed. As geocachers, it's good that we're talking about ways to prevent things like this from happening in the future and figuring out what to do if it does. Everyone's insight is important, and opinions will vary, but please be respectful, even if you don't agree. I truly believe everyone whose posting here has the best of interest of geocaching at heart, even if their opinion of how to make that happen differs.

A little bit above and beyond IMO, that's not what i'd consider the protocol, if the cache becomes muggled / eaten by a fox / washed away in the rain etc. etc. it's for the CO to rectify, if they don't, geocachers will log DNF's and notes which will eventually lead to archiving. I wouldn't consider you moving my geocache a favour to be honest. Replacing log books: fine. There are no requirements that cachers need to help out other cachers. I understand and appreciate the thinking of those who do things like drying out a cache or replacing a full/wet log, things like that, but a finder should never move a cache because it's not theirs to move. An email to the owner is a good way to let them know that you fixed it or to notify them of a problem that might require them to move the cache, but this can also be done via the logs. Don't be afraid to post a Needs Maintenance or Needs Archived if it's a series issue. The advantage of this is that reviewers automatically get notified of caches that get a NA log, and many will periodically run searches for caches that need maintenance and follow through with the owner directly if maintenance hasn't been performed...maybe even to the point of archiving the cache. Some may say they don't want to see caches get archived, but how long should the caching community keep doing maintenance for owners who refuse to do what's expected of every owner who hides a cache? I'd rather see the caches get archived and new caches get hidden by someone who's going to maintain them.

Relocating to iPhone section.

Depending on the number of caches in the park, a bookmark list is probably the best option. If there's only a handful of caches, it might be easier to use the Send to GPS option if your GPS is supported.

Closing duplicate thread in favor of this one: http://forums.Groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=290465

Closing thread. The forums should not be used for solicitation. If you're interested in getting other cachers to help with your project, I'd suggest going to a local event, getting to know some other cachers (the NYC area has some great cachers) and see if anyone is interested in helping you organize something. Or, you can post about it in the section knowschad mentioned, but remember that while geocaching can be used to teach people things, it's generally supposed to be politically neutral.

Thanks Trinity. It would be kind of difficult to remove a post that's been quoted, but I think we'll be good from here on out anyway. It's important to follow the guidelines even if there's a disagreement with what's being said.