b1rdbrain

Not me. i hate getting stuck my throrns and stuff

See thats how it should be But thats not what had happened. you see team 360 came up with a geocoin idea. this coin was not going to be supported by GC. so words went on between GC and Team 360 and Team 360 was banned (thats all i know about 360) well my friend Joe liked the coin idea and made his avatar be the Coin in question. The Mod didn't like it and gave Joe a time out for 1 week. at the end of 1 week Joe found himself banned for life and when you get a time out or get banned you can't go on the site and play anymore. this was really only one mod that has done all this to 2 Geocachers but there are the very few Mods that i don't think a thank you is needed nor do i think we need them here yes there are some that do there Jobs and do it well but there are the ones that over step there power and like some one said take his game home and not let us play. i have talked to joe about this thread and all he is mad about is the fact that the Mod said one thing and did another the Mod told him it was a time out and then Banned him for good. i think this is a clear use of over stepping you're powers on the site. so in my Opinion there are still the few that we don't need. next time you want to make a bow down and praise the MODs thread make it say that and don't give people the option to make a choice for them selfs. also i don't see how this derails you're thread when it'a all about the MODs. you clearly ask "Do We Need Them?" In my Opinion yes we need the ones that stick to doing there jobs and no we don't need the Mods that act like Dictators we need more Yodas and less Darth Vadors.

Actually, when I look at the top of the page to see what the topic of this thread is, it reads: Reviewers/Moderators, Do we need them? So that is the topic of the thread, not the appreciation of Moderators or Reviewers. Furthermore, you then ask the following questions: You then go on to answer your own questions with your opinion. It seems, though, that you are not liking some of the answers by others, and are trying to supress those that express an opinion that is different than your own. If the moderators are the ones who ban users from the forums, bringing up a banning seems on-topic to me, considering that is the motivation of the poster in answering the questions you asked. I think if you are going to ask the questions, you should allow the others to answer them. Some of those answers will be different than what you would like to see. Discussion forums exist for discussion, not just pushing one opinion on others. If you want to start a post that just praises the moderators and reviewers, you should close this topic and use the button you mentioned to start a new appreciation topic. You can then word the topic and questions more carefully, so that any opposing opinions would truly be off-topic. Thanks for starting this thread where we can discuss whether we need the Moderators or Reviewers, and how the forums might be without Moderators. It's an interesting topic, I'm glad you brought it up. Well Put.......... I have never said we don't need the MODs. i simply said there are a small few the over step there boundrys. My friend Joe was given the boot by one MOD and Joe said sorry for what he had done. the MOD never responded but the MOD also said the Banning was for a 1 weeks time. with out saying any thing to Joe the MOD made the 1 weel ban to a life time ban. this is a case where the MOD over stepped the Boundrys. in this small case we do not need to have this MOD around (this is part of you thread. you ask "do we need them?") if you feel like i am derailing you're thread I'm Sorry but you left the door wide open on if we need the mods or not. i simply say we don't need the countrol freaks and if a MOD is going to do one thing then he/she should stick to what they said, they Should do not go off and make the punishment harder with out notice. so my Stand is Yes we do need the MODs no we don't need the MODs that are compleat controle freaks.

That's true, he didn't threaten to muggle other people's caches here in the forum. You did. Back on topic, it's a thankless job. I'm glad they're doing it, because I wouldn't want to. you are no better then the news. why only take a small part of what was writen and make me look so bad. while take the whole post out of contex. first i was defending 2 people that got the Boot over a Geocoin idea. you then take 2 quotes out of contex to make me look bad. DUDE GROW UP. i bet i can do the same to you if my whole life was sticking my nose in to other peoples buisness. i was making a point about another cacher that was Booted this was not about me. and he was booted For A COIN IDEA i got the emails from the MOD and Joe i have read everything that the Mod had sent him Joe also had said sorry on 3 different times. but the MOD refuses to contact him back. i also never said it was all the MODs, i simply said the some of the MODs are acting like the Geocaching SS and have handed out harsher punishments to people that through a funny COIN idea out there. By the way the coin in question will be made and sold on Ebay for thoughs that would like to still get said Coin. and as far as Joe goes he said sorry 3 times to the MOD but the MOD has never said anything back to him. all the MOD did was Boot him off for good. all the guy wants is to access his acount and be able to look for caches. see when you get booted off here you get booted off from playing the game. is that fair? he aslo was told that the Banning was only going to be for a week out of the blue the bootting went from 1 week to forever. no reason given just did it anyway. so yes just like the LAPD there are alot that need thanks but there are a few Dirty ones that need to be sent someplace other then here. I Don't Pee in you're Pool, Please don't Poop on my Caches.

I don't have anything nice to say? whare have you been. i was talking about the very few Mods that take the job way over the edge. i have not named any mods but Team 360 was booted for a Geocoin idea and some one else was booted for talking about said Coin. these people didn't get a warning they got booted they can't even go look up caches to find from all this happening. i know Joe had said sorry to the Mod that booted him and the mod has never even made it known that he even read it. so a friend is sitting at home can't even Geocache cuz he thought a coin was funny that Groundspeak made it known they would not suport at all. I ask you is it fair that some one speaks his mind to be given a boot and then can't enjoy a game he loves? it's not like he was taking about muggling every cache he came to and it was said in the forums. i think if he was given the boot at least make it where he can't post in the forums but let him still play.

All that said if fine but there are a few that has taken the Job and it is a Job way over the edge. Team 360 was given the Boot for making a joke or pushing an idea of a coin that Groundspeak doesn't want anything to do with. then a friend of mine was Booted off for speaking of such Coin and made his avatar be the coin. he was told that it was a banning from the post for 1 week then after that week was up, it turned in to for good. nothing was said the bannig turned in to getting Booted for good. yes they are doing a good job but some have taken there powers and turned to the Dark Side. i heard one Moderator described as Hitler. so yes most of them do need to hear the words Thank You. but some need to be moved to moderat some place else. i mean you don't keep a guard that beats on inmates in an area that he can still beat on prisoners you eather fire them or move them in an area that makes it where they can not touch the inmates. this place is for familys but when a kid asks a simple question and a moderator boots him off cuz he thinks that the question is not ok for Groundspeak is getting bad. i bet i'll get the boot for this post. or atleast a warning. B1rdbrain

it started as a geocaching thread and i asked the moderators to close it then some one said someithing about bmw and questioned my riding then some one dissed me about my building a bike and this is where it ended up. this is why as the people that do post should be allowed to close the thread at there will. i would have closed this thread like over 10 post ago. but they took that away from all of us. remember?

I'm Not building Art i am makeing a "BAR Hopper" and you said I'm not building? i am just assembling? dude you have alot to learn about "Bike Building" when you take catalog parts and make them One Off's then you are building but if you are takeing catalog parts and putting them together then ya you are assambling but i didn't go to school to learn how to work with metal to assemble anything. i am building. you can't take a custem frame and just stick a motor in it. you have to fab up some parts to make it work. then you take the mounts to get them powder coated or chromed then there is the tank and mounting it. and when you fab up all this stuff you have a ton of work to mok it up and thats what i'm in the middle of doing is mok up. i'm still waiting on parts and after paint and everything is done i would have paid as much at a nice Fatboy and not much more but it will be at least a $40,000.00 Bike if i sold it when done. and as for BMW tour bikes they suck. hate to break it to you, but they suck. now write me back when you man up and sell everything to build you're dream. cuz thats what i did. i sold everything but my Bird and my GPS to build my dream and no one will rain on my parade. and when it's all done I'll post all the photos on the build on myspace. kinda a how to build you're own so you don't have to pay people like OCC $100,000.00 for a bike that really should cost $35,000.00 and only pay out $20,000.00 - $25,000.00

You building a bike? you bust up you're hands building you're dream? i asked a simple question and my riding abelity was Questioned. i dreamed of building a bike and i had to sell my H.D. to do it. so are you building a bike? or better yet do you ride American? you own American Made? At least i'm supporting American small buisnesses. what are you doing other then posting on a game forume?

Okay, we've given up what we ride, what about you? i got rid of my 92 fatboy and now building my own bike i have a rolling chassey from AZ Bikes it looks ridged but it's air ride i have an S&S 118 coming a 280 rear tire fenderless drop seat i have $15,000.00 into it and i am still making it up and looking for a good painter. i'm thinking of a Dukes of Hazard thyme. so i should be riding again in Jan. just got the 6 speed trans in and as soon as the motor comes in i'll get them together getting Jesse James Crack Pipes and Big Bear controles with a exile clutch controle. So to put it short I"M MAKING MY BIKE it's been a 4 year dream and it's only a few more months that it will be done. it's all American All My Own and i didn't use 1 credit card to buy any parts. so take you're little hondas and you're BMW's and go fly a kite. i'm the only one here that seems to be a real "Biker" and with that said Moderator, Please close this thread.

COOL, What is it?

"How To Make A Cache" Step 1 :

David Blane out Geocaching.

BTW -- ever wonder why a motorcycle rider is called a 'biker,' but a bicycle rider is called a 'cyclist?' Motorcycle riders are called motorcyclists. Bikers are too busy hanging out in bars to actually ride much. I sometimes ride my Kawasaki ZRX1200 or my BMW R1150RT to the trailhead (if it's off a paved road), but neither bike is well suited for dirt roads. GW so in realy you are just a Cyclist. i mean a BIKER wouldn't be seen on you're scooter right? BMW HAHAHA get a real bike. BMW makes cars for complete <edit by moderator> not Bikes for real Bikers by the way what credit card did you use for that bike????????? (Please don't post anything back about me making fun of a Credit card biker. i only made fun of him cuz of the BMW bike)

Good catch, LadeBear. All 88 of his logged finds are on caches that are terrain 1 or terrain 1.5. I'm betting he posted just to test the language filter. I posted to see how fast you hard core guys would respond. don't fool you're self to think anything different. I don't Pee in you're pool, please don't poop on my cache.

I just love the arrogance. With over 500 finds I still miss the occasional 1/1. No one is perfect. thats funny i seem to miss alot of 1/1's but man do i find the 5/5's real quick. it's missing the 1/1's that make you go "What the <edit by moderator> am I Doing Wrong"?

I'll do it but Groundspeak has to pay me for it and all the travel expenses too. also would i be allowed to be sponcered like NASCAR? or is that part of the guidelines of NO MONEY for Profit.

Ya i love the idea of a fishing cache. i would have fun doing that. i also would like to get in some Scuba Caching.

Nicely Put. Whats TPTB?

What would be cool is setting up a inferred led on the cache then you use a camcorder with night shot to find it. you should be able to do that for an urbin hide and being inferred you wouldn't see it with the naked eye. good for day or night. it's like pointing a t.v. remote at the camera with night shot.

Cuz we all where 13 at one time in our life and we already know what you are going to do before you even think about doing it. thats why some one brings up that you are 13 all the time. you really shouldn't log the find. most people don't think it's fair to log you're own hides. now go get some mentos and Diet Coke and drop 3-4 mentos in the Diet coke, to see what happens.

i see what what you are saying. as in Hunting if you look for caches in Reseda, CA you too can get shot by a fat guy that has money. kinda like that guy in TX that got shot by the vice prez. but if you play frisbee you're just a stoned out hippie. that sounds about right as for getting along? no some one will always mess it up for the rest of us. so thats not going to happen. as you can see this tread is really not about the game as much as it's about telling some one you are playing wrong. come on people if you can't play nice go find another game to play. like frisbee, cuz we all know most Geocachers are Hippie scum and people that play frisbee are also hippeies. so if you can't play Geocaching nice then go hug a tree and play another game like "Go get lost in the woods" thats a great game to play. if you don't know how to play "Go get lost in the woods" then go out to the woods with out you're GPS and get lost out there real good and then start playing. souds like fun to me. If you don't like how some one is playing then get over it. cuz you will never find some one that plays the way you play this game. i play if you can't find it then you never found it. if some one plays hey i was there but i didn't find it and marks it that they found it. then thats how they play. if you feel you have waisted time looking for the cache thats not there when some one marks that it was there and never found it, then maybe you need to look a new caches and quit looking up old ones. just move on and leave the new guy alone. he will play it the way that makes him happy

you must have played frisbee Golf. i use to play that in Pasadena, CA now that park is used more for Geocaching then Frisbee Golf. and now i play Geocaching and not Frisbee Golf.

I Agree but don't use a Permanent Marker on my Caches. a pen will be just fine. a pencil if you must is OK but a pen will do. I don't Poop in you're pool, please don't pee on my cache.

never had that happen i have done only a few caches like that i just look for the nearest trail head. it just seems like the right thing to do. Are you a new geocacher???????