Thanks i will have to look for updates. My version is 3.07. And i am learning that it does not put you right on top of the cache. One thing my magellan 315 seem to do is, I can make a X on the ground and walk away from it say 30yrd or so, come back to it and does not read the same, is that normal? Iam not under trees and I have read the manual over and over again. no where can I find where to put in a waypiont manual. I want to type in like N 34 o7.435 W116 25.178 and then say goto from home. so for now I just watch the numbers go up or down to find the place. THANKS for the help!