solohiker

quote:Originally posted by mtn-man:Hmmmm... looks like you got your wish. The cache was archived by the cache owner. Looking at the cache (now that we know which one it is) I see some interesting things. http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=1205&log=y&decrypt= I see that you found the cache on May 12, 2001. You didn't have a problem with it back then. It was in fact your first cache find. I also see on August 12, 2001 that the http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cachelog_details.asp?ID=3034&L=45229 also found the cache and seemed to like it. _"He was very excited about the possibilities and promised to invite us to the next trails council meeting."_ About a year ago on July 4 the owner put a new log book in the cache and mentions that it has the blessing of the State Park System. Of course, maybe some things have changed. They know exactly where the cache is (since they found it and all). If they wanted it out of there, couldn't they have just gone out to get it themselves? Congrats, the sixth oldest active cache in Arkansas is now gone. ID=1205. It appears that the cache owner has made the decision to comply with State Park Directive 3220. I stand by my actions and reject the notion that the State Parks should be the ones policing this hobby. I am not satisified with the actions of geocaching.com regarding this situation. An apology would help.

I keep waiting to hear a review of the iQUE3600.

quote:Originally posted by Tennessee Geocacher:Normally I would just let this die down but solohiker has blown this way out of context and he did not send me the emails that he spoke of to me on those dates. I spoke with the parks director last week by e-mail and by phone and there is no problem. All caches already in state parks would have to have a permit none would be grandfather in. When doing the permit process all caches that were undesirable by the Park mangers would not be approved and would be archived. This process would take about 30 to 45 days. I assured him that we at geocaching.com would do what there wishes were on this matter again no problem with the state parks people. The only problem I am having is trying to find out which caches are where so I can contact each cache owner and explain the new state park policy and assist them getting a permit. I posted a thread in the South, Southeast Forums to ask for help in identifying the caches but only four have been spoken of and if that is all there is, there is no problem. At this time I would ask that you solohiker back off because too many cooks will burn the beans for us all. Tennessee Geocacher Geocaching.com Admin. You can be sure I will not be promoting the web site or forwarding any more messages. Please don't ask for my help again.

quote:Originally posted by mtn-man:Hmmmm... looks like you got your wish. The cache was archived by the cache owner. Looking at the cache (now that we know which one it is) I see some interesting things. http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=1205&log=y&decrypt= I see that you found the cache on May 12, 2001. You didn't have a problem with it back then. It was in fact your first cache find. I also see on August 12, 2001 that the http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cachelog_details.asp?ID=3034&L=45229 also found the cache and seemed to like it. _"He was very excited about the possibilities and promised to invite us to the next trails council meeting."_ About a year ago on July 4 the owner put a new log book in the cache and mentions that it has the blessing of the State Park System. Of course, maybe some things have changed. They know exactly where the cache is (since they found it and all). If they wanted it out of there, couldn't they have just gone out to get it themselves? Congrats, the sixth oldest active cache in Arkansas is now gone. ID=1205. Don't kill the messenger. I didn't have a problem with the cache. The State Park Director had a problem with it. The fact that the cache was in a hole covered with leaves and sticks didn't bother me. It was my first cache find. I did have a problem with the non-response from geocaching.com and the subsequent insinuations that I didn't do my homework. What did they want me to do? I get the feeling that you would have prefered I did nothing. I never did get along too well with the 'rules are made to be broken' crowd.

I know of several caches in State Parks and in Natural areas managed by the Arkansas Heritage Commission. I will not be volunteering this information to geocaching.com. I got hung out to dry by geocaching.com the last time I acted as a liason. No thanks!!

geocaching did not exist when I bought my gps. I use it for hunting,fishing, and of course hiking.

quote:Originally posted by Jeremy (Admin):Ok. I'm a bit peeved. I received the two cache IDs that I was informed were placed without permission. I disabled both caches and informed both of the owners that the land managers did not give permission to place these caches. Both have emailed me back. They had both received permission to place their caches from the local land managers. One even had a picture of the state trails coordinator beside his state car right after a geocaching workshop. Do your homework. You should probably discuss whatever issues to whoever you're speaking with so they know which end is up. Jeremy Irish Groundspeak - The Language of Location Ok, now we are all peeved. Here is how I did my homework. I received an email with the following comment from the State Parks Director: “In checking the web, I’ve noticed a few caches, to include one that is illegally buried at Pinnacle Mt.” I felt obligated to forward this information to Geocaching.com. I sent the information to TennesseeGeocacher, because he had recently sent me an email asking for my help on local issues. TennesseeGeocacher is the Geocaching.com approver for this area. I fowarded the director’s comments and listed the only two geocaches in that park. I recommended that these cachers obtain approval for their caches. I never received a reply so after a couple weeks I posted this thread. I included the State Park Director’s contact information in my email to both TennesseeGeocacher and Jeremy. Has anyone contacted the director? Was there a buried cache? Are the local park superintendents ignoring Park Directive 3220. I don’t know, maybe everyone needs to do his homework. You can be sure I won’t be doing any more homework to support this website.

quote:Originally posted by Woodsters Outdoors:just went to the page about maintaining a cache and it says: _Step 5 - Maintain the cache_ Once you place the cache, it is your responsibility to maintain the cache and the area around it. You'll need to return as often as you can to ensure that your cache is not impacting the area, and ensure that the cache is in good repair. Once people have visited the cache, inquire about the cache and their opinion of the location. Does the area look disturbed? Are visitors disrupting the landscape in any way? If you have concerns about the location, feel free to move or remove it from the area. hmmm I think I gave a pretty good synopsis myself and even added some... Brian Wxxd Wxxdsters Outdoors http://www.wxxdsters.com I am somewhat certain that you will be an adequate cache maintainer if lighting strikes and you actually place a cache. I would normally advise you of the first rule of geocaching, but you seem to have all the bases covered. Except for the placing of the cache, which is really the essence of geocaching. (sorry, Jerry could not resist.)

cold weather.

I am a control freak. Blah, blah, blah, Then geocaching came along.

Thanks for your viewpoint, woodsters. It is not an accident that I hike solo. I am extremely dislikable and my spelling is for $#*%. I look forward to finding your first cache.

quote:Originally posted by Divine:Duh. Hiding some caches doesn't give any credibility in this discussion. I didn't gain any magical hiding abilities with credibility certificate after placing my first few caches. After having found a few different kind of caches and reading the guidelines, FAQs and these forums I knew pretty much all of the basics of cache hiding. Sure, the more caches I find & hide, the more caching stories and threads I read & hear etc, the more nuances and ideas I keep learning. Having 'credibility' to join a discussion like this, it has very little to do with. - This discussion concerns maintaining caches. I think spending time and money to support a cache is relevant to the discussion. Anyone can hide a cache. What matters is the maintaining of the cache. This discussion is a direct parallel to my favorite Seinfeld episode.

quote:Originally posted by SearchRescueDog:This is very true. It is because so many people can not keep a pet on a leash that so many areas have "no pet" restrictions. My dog is very used to working off leash and I can put him in a down at any time but I still have him on leash when we are caching except in a few select areas. Everyone's dog works well 'off leash' at home. Take the dog to a new area... the dog is distracted.... dog owner is distracted... I have to kick a dog away from me. I should not have to do that. Please use a leash on public land.

I have a Garmin 12, old school. If I select a geocaching waypoint it shows bearing and distance. I think the new etrex does the same.

I would like to see all pets on a leash. I know everyone loves their pet, but a lot of pet owners treat public space as if they owned them. If I can't sniff your wife's crotch, your dog can't sniff mine. Besides, dogs stink!! Ok, sorry didn't mean to go there.

My original email was sent to one of the approvers. Admittedly I have had problems with my ISP server connecting with AOL accounts, but I had no indication that this email was not delivered. Bringing this issue up in the forums was probably not the best tactic, but it seems to be an effective solution. Thanks to everyone at geocaching.com for their support.

Believe me I know about spam. Can you say spam filter? They work. How does someone run a business without posting a valid email address? I guess they run it like this.

I got a response from the email bot. One more cheap shot.... Maybe someone will read it. Budda Bing!!!

quote:Originally posted by Jeremy:So you start with a cheap shot and your response is a one liner? Thanks. Jeremy Irish Groundspeak - The Language of Location I forwarded you an email. It would help if your email address did not have [NOSPAM] in the middle of it. Maybe you will get the last one I sent.

quote:Originally posted by Tennessee Geocacher:solohiker if you would please send the e-mail to me I am the admin for AK, MS and TN and I will see what I can do. Tennessee Geocacher Geocaching.com Approver Email sent. send to:TennesseeGeocacher@geocachingadmin.com

So what should I do if I have worked really hard developing a relationship with a land management agency and they voice the following complaint: They want to authorize geocaching, but they have a specific problem with a specific cache. I forwarded the email to geocaching.com, but I get nothing. Should I continue to promote geocaching>? Why won't geocaching.com support itself?

quote:Originally posted by Searching_ut:I've never found a use for, or had a reason to carry a hiking stick. I find them pretty much only of use on simple terrain where they don't get in the way. I am old and old fashioned, but I never cross a moving stream without a stick. YMMV

I know how to keep ticks off me. Light colored nylon trousers, gaiters and boots. I swat them off at every clearing. To protect your dog get a leash. Use a leash. And by the way.... put your dog on a leash.

quote:Originally posted by Woodsters Outdoors:<snip> You are correct, I have not placed any caches. <snip> And don't start pointing fingers about numbers and who hasn't done what or who has. <snip> Brian Wood Woodsters Outdoors http://www.woodsters.com<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Brian, I am not finger pointing about numbers, but let's face it... If you have never placed a cache, what credibility do you have in a discussion about where caches should be placed? Place a local cache and let's talk :-)