Torchwood Four

The situation has been resolved. Thanks for everyone's input.

The currently listed coordinates are in someone's front yard. The correct coordinates are in a public parking lot.

I sent offline.cacher a reminder note earlier today. I am going to wait and see what happens. If I don't hear back I do know of another reviewer who will probably be more than willing to assist with getting it straightened out. Hopefully the personal communications posted by offline.cacher can be taken off the logs, as it looks bad.

It's not a reviewer note. I mean, it says 'Reviewer Note,' but you can still see his comments even when you log out and view the page.

I did not realize this. Sounds like a Ringbone moment. My money's on the reviewer forgetting that he was logged into his regular geocaching account, when he meant to be logged into his reviewer's account. It's just a guess, but I'd be curious if that were the case. It could be. I have seen examples of what appeared to be sock-puppetry involved on other geocache logs before. It's entirely reasonable that this was what was behind the remark, which I found very odd in the context of a reviewer to be posting.

^This is odd. Did you accidentally delete some of the reviewer's logs? I also find it odd that a reviewer has been posting logs, but hasn't updated the coordinates for you. The reviewer posted a log with wrong coordinates that put the cache in someone's front yard. I removed that log to make sure that people didn't go trespassing somewhere that the geocache wasn't located at, then contacted the reviewer via PM to explain that. As to why the reviewer posted a 'why are you deleting my logs' but didn't update the cache coords when I responded to him via PM, I'm not sure. I don't want to post the correct coordinates in the written logs because as others have said I don't want to create an unfair FTF. I'm sensing more to this story. As for the anxious cacher, if it is the person in the logs posting recent notes, I wouldn't stress about it. They aren't harassing, rather, they seem to be interested in when they can go out and find your cache. It should be exciting that someone wants to find a cache you've thought to put out for others to find! Then, with the reviewer, I wouldn't delete any more logs until the cache is listed properly. The wait might be a lot of things, but 24-72 hours isn't uncommon. There might be proximity issues, and there might be a cache in their queue that is near where your cache already is. Best bet is to post a Reviewer Note to the cache listing with your requested updated coords. Email the reviewer again, and gently ask them if they can update the coords for you. Mention that you aren't sure if your communication is going to the correct place, and ask if there is a best method they like to be communicated with for these types of issues. Patience! No, there isn't more to this story. The original coordinates were wrong, which I didn't realize until people kept DNF'ing even with obvious hints. Went out to the site and realized that the coordinates showed the cache being under one light pole in a section of the parking lot when it should have been under a different light pole in a different section of the parking lot. I messaged the reviewer to request an adjustment but due to a snafu in the coordinates he wound up posting a cache location that was not only not the correct location, but also was in someone's front yard (a big no-no). I whacked the log with the revised coordinates to prevent folks tromping around in some poor innocent bystander's yard and sent him a PM explaining why and telling him where the correct coordinates were. Meanwhile this other guy kept spamming the logs with various requests and demands for information about where the cache was, and remark after remark about the coords being wrong (all AFTER the listing was disabled). I kept cleaning the comments out but he kept coming back. Then the reviewer posted 'why are you deleting my logs?' but never corrected the coordinates.

^This is odd. Did you accidentally delete some of the reviewer's logs? I also find it odd that a reviewer has been posting logs, but hasn't updated the coordinates for you. The reviewer posted a log with wrong coordinates that put the cache in someone's front yard. I removed that log to make sure that people didn't go trespassing somewhere that the geocache wasn't located at, then contacted the reviewer via PM to explain that. As to why the reviewer posted a 'why are you deleting my logs' but didn't update the cache coords when I responded to him via PM, I'm not sure. I don't want to post the correct coordinates in the written logs because as others have said I don't want to create an unfair FTF.

Hello all, I have a cache that I had to temporarily disable pending coordinate correction by a reviewer. Because the coordinates are off by a fair margin (through a snafu during coordinate notation) I have to have the reviewer correct the coordinates - I can't do it myself. A cacher has decided to start bombarding the logs for the cache with messages ranging from rage that the cache has been temporarily de-listed to requests for hints about the cache's location. Even when I explained that I couldn't do anything about the cache listing until a reviewer handled the coordinate correction, he continues to post. I delete his logs but he just keeps coming back. Is there a way to disable comments on a cache log until the cache gets re-listed? Or a way to put someone on 'ignore?' Thanks, Michael // Torchwood Four

Hello all, I have seen mentioned on here how some members have notifications set up to alert them to new caches being published in their area. How does one do this? I went through the motions of what I believed to be the correct setup procedure but have still not been bodied of new listings going up. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Michael // Torchwood Four

Windows Surface? You might be better off with a trained monkey and a TomTom. /2cents

Drat. I was just getting ready to submit that cache for review Ha!

What kind of a depraved idiot takes a dump inside a geocache?

I suspect a guideline such as this is in place to prevent puzzles that require 'exotic' solutions, such as the attaching of jumper cables to one's genitalia, for example.

Fun with words? How about... "More seldom than not the movies gives us exquisite sex and wholesome violence, that underscores our values. Every two child did. I will." - George W. Bush, Economic Club of Detroit, September 22, 2000

Unfortunately, I think we're going to see the backlash against geocachers continue to increase as the game becomes more popular, thanks mostly to the hysterical obsession the West has developed with terrorism. There have been a couple of instances where we've been interrogated in public places for doing nothing more than staring at a bush for too long, and with the DHS now engaging in leaflet campaigns like this one basically encouraging people to mash 911 every time they see something unusual, I fear caching is going to become an increasingly difficult diversion to enjoy. Guys doing crap like using hand grenades for cache containers doesn't help matters.

No, the worst idea for a geocache container would be one that utilizes the cloaca of a live alligator as an enclosure. But this would rank a close second.

I think it's up to the individual cache owner. FTF coins and such can often be expensive. Not everyone can afford to put a big shiny in their caches for FTFs. EDIT: Oh, you're talking about the electronic ones provided by Groundspeak. Hmm. Don't know the answer to that one.

Wow, what a perfectly odd place to bury that feature. Huh. Thanks. I would have never thought to look there. Thanks for your help, Michael

Hey everyone - Noob question - how can I set my signature for the forums? The instructions in the Help system point me to a menu that doesn't seem to exist. Thanks, Michael

Thanks for the answers. It looks like GCC is going to be exactly what we're looking for. I appreciate everyone's feedback. Michael

Hi there - We recently came across our first cache that required projecting a waypoint. From what we could tell, the Groundspeak Geocaching application for Android lacks this capability. Since we already paid for two copies of the Geocaching app, we're not thrilled at the prospect of having to pay again for a third-party app just to use its waypoint projection feature. Can anyone recommend a decent free Android app which has this capability? Many thanks, Michael Torchwood Four

The OP does not appear to see the danger in what he has created and is questioning the reviewer's judgement.

I think that the fundamental problem is not so much that it puts geocachers at risk, but that it puts innocent bystanders at risk. And that reason alone, in my opinion - the fact that people not involved whatsoever are jeopardized - is justifiable grounds to shut it down.

This is what I do. I don't post anything about the issue on the cache page. No note, log, DNF, NM, NA, etc. Just an email (with a picture in necessary) to the reviewer. Depending on the issue, it either gets archived, or a note something to the effect "There may be permission issues...CO please contact me to clarify". Usually it still gets archived, since there was never permission granted. Noob question: how does one privately contact a reviewer in the manner in which you've described?

Thanks, I'll have a look through our logs and see what I can come up with. The concern that is weighing on our minds, aside from the obvious frustration of routinely heading out to geocaches marked as having bugs present only to find they've been looted is that we're wanting to deploy our first regular-sized cache and have bought some bugs to go along with it, but we're hesitant to do so because we're concerned the same fate will happen to it. I'll see if I can pull together the list of caches that are showing ghost inventory. Some lists have already been cleaned up by their cache owners (due to maint flags we put on the caches when we found inventory discrepancies). The curious thing is that we have not noticed such rampant cases of MIA bugs in the neighboring towns.