JingleBella

Lol that's understandable.

They do on the iPhone app... good for you. as for the rest of us... What app are you using? Must not be the Groundspeak one. Get the Groundspeak one. Assuming you have an Apple device considering you said "upload the photo to the cloud". I wonder if the free Groundspeak one allows TB drops? They've just updated it I've read.

They do on the iPhone app...

I know some people do, but it seems not many. I've come across trackables that have gone thousands and thousands of miles but have no pictures other than the original one from the owner. One I have in my hand right now started in the US, went to Germany then came to Canada. Not one person has taken a picture of it. That's so sad to me.

No, it stays online unless you turn your data off.

Sometimes they don't show up at all. I know I read on a thread on here once that there's certain things that cannot be checked for it to go through to the phone. Can't find that thread now :/

Still can't figure this out... Just ran two queries now, no luck.

I don't generally find a lot of difference between the accuracy - things seem accurate enough both with data turned on and without it. No need to turn 3G off (or wireless actually) - you can just turn data roaming off and you'll not incur any data charges. The key is to have everything you need saved in advance and to accept that a compass rather than a map is more likely to be used - maps might or might not appear for you at various scales but don't seem dependent upon data roaming or, as far as I can tell, incur any data charges. Saved lists are probably easier than bothering with a pocket query actually - I just dump everything I need onto the phone - I think I have over 300 caches saved in one of my lists from this summer holiday. It did pop up a warning for that one but took less than 10 minutes to save the data (I don't bother with maps or photos). That makes me envious! I find it much poorer accuracy when using it offline. Like to the point where you'd think you were on a trail. I always turn off all 3 options just to be safe. Because even with all 3 turned off once I had some data push once while out of the country. Don't know how, phone company wasn't any help either. They just said next time be sure to turn off all 3 options (which I already told them I did.. *facepalm*).

I sincerely doubt that... I don't know... now I'm curious... I do know I was logging them while doing a trail one day... found around 15 I believe it was... racked up about 60 MB in data. So the logs + walking the 600 feet in between them (which is just navigation, that doesn't use much) I think 1 MB each is a safe guess. Would really depend on the length of the log too.

You cared enough to ask.. But I wasn't complaining... Also... "I was wondering anyone else had the same train of thought or what was the common opinion on the matter"

Make sure you have Cellular Data, Roaming, 3G/4G/LTE all off. Some teeny bits of data may still push through, this happened to me. But only kb's worth and my phone company reversed the charges after I explained to them I had all 3 options off the whole time. It's much trickier to cache offline so be prepared for that. The compass isn't a reliable and can be a bit wacky. You definitely need some patience with offline caching . When you save them offline it doesn't save all photos, only like two. You sound like you're good to go though! Have fun!!

Sooooo this has branched out to many different points and other topics.. I think people need to realize that I wasn't complaining. I really don't care that someone logged 1 find before I did even though I was FTF. I personally will wait, so I was wondering anyone else had the same train of thought or what was the common opinion on the matter. Part of me thinks that the other FTF hounds in my area would wait at least a little bit.. If they do, cool.. If they don't, I don't care. Note: I was out of my country, so in regards to the comment someone made about it only being mere kb of data... I can't remember exactly what each log runs at, but it's at least 1 MB each I believe?... so 4 logs x $5/MB of roaming data usage = $20 extra on my bill for this month. Definitely not worth it considering I was back on a WiFi connection within 30 minutes.

Yes. You have to create a saved list or pocket query within the app, then make sure your data, 3G and roaming is turned off. It's not as accurate as being online and you don't have access to all the photos available but it beats paying the data charges.

Harry Dolphin is right. No, he's not. What he claims is "common courtesy" is naught but him extending his own entitlement mentality to those who were FTF. I find cache "X". I log cache "X" when I am able. Only someone brimming with self entitlement would suggest that I should sit around, twiddling my thumbs, waiting till the FTF logs the find. Truly, the ultimate depiction of the "Me!" "Me!" society he claims to abhor. I believe introductions betwixt Mr Pot & Mrs Kettle are in order. Thank you CR! No, i'm not going to purposely rush and try to beat someone with the first found it log. However, i'm also not going to just sit around and watch paint dry waiting for a slow moving, possibly sandbagging cacher to do their thing. I hardly think waiting 30 minutes to log is comparable to watching paint dry. I've waited over a day before, so I guess it's just me. I wait for the first finder to log it and will continue to. It's really no big deal to me to delay a log.

Is there any etiquette when finding a cache second but logging it first? Had a few FTF's last night and I noticed on one of them the 2TF logged before I did. I cache with my iPhone so I just had to wait to send my logs when I was back on a wifi connection to be cautious of my data usage. It only would have been 30 minutes after the find lol. Anytime I've gone after a FTF and get there second (or third) I watch the listing and wait till the FTFer logs. Maybe this isn't something a lot of cachers do? Does it effect any of my personal geocaching statistics on my profile? Thanks!

The difficulty may differ from person to person, but the terrain is the same for everyone, unless maybe a flash flood occurs, or someone builds a road. I beg to differ. The terrain would be the same for everyone of like ability, but not everyone. I have a disability after a geocaching accident in 2008 and I have come across some T1.5 and many T2 caches that, for me, would be better rated a T3 or 3.5. No, I do not expect the ratings to be geared for me or those in similar situations (or worse). I just know going out that some caches that have a somewhat lower terrain rating may require more effort than the rating indicates or may not actually be possible for me to do alone or without some kind of assistance. No big. Just part of the game and my current reality. YMMV. So how is a CO supposed to rate the terrain if he doesn't know whether the person attempting to find the cache is a world class athlete or a quadraplegic? If you're a world class free climber then a cache half way up a cliff might only count as T2. If you're a quadraplegic with major brain trauma then any cache at all is probably T5 on the basis you couldn't do it without specialist equipment. The handicaching rating of some years ago seemed like a great idea, where the regular terrain rating could be used assuming someone was reasonably mobile and the handicaching ratings provided more information for those with more limited mobility about what would be required to retrieve the cache so they could figure out whether they were likely to be able to do it or not. My original post was actually more directed to difficulty rating but I still do agree that the terrain rating is going to differ from person to person. It will also vary depending on weather and time of day. A cache rated a 3T could easily bump up to a 4/4.5 if attempted at night during the Winter. Of course, which is why the D/T rating is a guideline rather than a definitive statement. The flipside is that many caches that are very easy in the winter become very hard in the summer because vegetation grows up and obscures the cache, and when you've got stinging nettles six feet tall and brambles that surround the cache for 50 feet in all directions it doesn't help with finding the cache. Lol yes, that is true too. Sometimes they get harder due to the trees/bushes filling in. And pill bottles on a tree in the winter definitely get easier due to the camo standing out like a sore thumb and a geopath if anyone has been there recently. I think that gives even more reason why having each cachers D/T opinion would vary way too much!

I love virtuals and wish they could come back. I've never seen one that is a sewer grate so maybe if they did come back they'd have to be a bit more strict with them. Thinking about it now, an earthcache is quiet similar. You go to a specific location and (usually) answer some questions that you'd only be able to answer if you're actually there.

Do people often only go after caches by a specific CO? You could always go on the persons profile on the website and find their list of hides there.

The difficulty may differ from person to person, but the terrain is the same for everyone, unless maybe a flash flood occurs, or someone builds a road. I beg to differ. The terrain would be the same for everyone of like ability, but not everyone. I have a disability after a geocaching accident in 2008 and I have come across some T1.5 and many T2 caches that, for me, would be better rated a T3 or 3.5. No, I do not expect the ratings to be geared for me or those in similar situations (or worse). I just know going out that some caches that have a somewhat lower terrain rating may require more effort than the rating indicates or may not actually be possible for me to do alone or without some kind of assistance. No big. Just part of the game and my current reality. YMMV. So how is a CO supposed to rate the terrain if he doesn't know whether the person attempting to find the cache is a world class athlete or a quadraplegic? If you're a world class free climber then a cache half way up a cliff might only count as T2. If you're a quadraplegic with major brain trauma then any cache at all is probably T5 on the basis you couldn't do it without specialist equipment. The handicaching rating of some years ago seemed like a great idea, where the regular terrain rating could be used assuming someone was reasonably mobile and the handicaching ratings provided more information for those with more limited mobility about what would be required to retrieve the cache so they could figure out whether they were likely to be able to do it or not. My original post was actually more directed to difficulty rating but I still do agree that the terrain rating is going to differ from person to person. It will also vary depending on weather and time of day. A cache rated a 3T could easily bump up to a 4/4.5 if attempted at night during the Winter.

I appreciate any feedback regarding my caches but don't forget the DT ratings are going to differ from person to person. No, a cache in a lamppost skirt will (likely) never be a 4 star difficulty but a cache that is rated for example 3 could be a 1 for a very experienced cacher and a 4 or 5 to a newbie. All depends on what you've seen as well. There's a couple caches here that are rated a 4 I believe, however because I've seen similar containers I had spotted them before even getting to GZ. That's why it's always good to note in the logs any concerns. Maybe if enough people say the same thing the CO will (hopefully) change it.

I'm not sure I'd like the auto-alert function... however if it had an option to be turned on or off that'd be okay with me. Yes! This I want! Lol

It is there on the website but I'm trying to get it to come up in the Pocket Query section on my phone. There's certain things that have to not be checked when running a query for it to come up on the app on my phone... can't figure out which selections it is.

Having trouble getting my pocket query to come up on my iPhone. I know I've read before when you run it certain things can't be selected... I've ran one on www.geocaching.com a couple times now with different settings and it still doesn't seem to work?

Although I've heard people some Garmin Nuvi's work, I've tried it with my Garmin three different times and had to no luck. Was trying to use it as a second source to my iPhone. I have two additional apps that I use when placing geocaches (or entering puzzle coords). One is called Free GPS, the other ViewRanger. Free GPS is fairly user friendly. But you definitely have to take the coordinates, walk away, navigate back to the coords and continue this until you get within a few feet of wherever you placed it. It's a pain in the butt but it's better than having people upset that your cache is off by 60 feet. I know I have a couple of mine to fix where I only walked back twice when I should have re-checked them 3 or 4 times. Keep in mind though each GPS functions differently. I've had it where two different cachers who I know use good handheld GPS units, one will say the coords were within a couple feet, the other will say it was 20 feet off. So many factors come into play with GPS signals [Edit for spelling error.]

Although it wouldn't find all of them a lot of church/graveyard ones are called "Restin' In _____". If you have the geocaching app you can filter them by name using that or put Restin In site:www.geocaching.com/bookmarks into a Google search and that will allow you to bring up bookmark lists people have made. I understand you can also use GSAK somehow to search titles but I'm not familiar with that program.