Cache U Nutter
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I had forgot about this one as it is still on my DNF list but hopefully that will be resolved the next time I'm in Edinburgh
http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_detai...77-c549cec25c61
I will vouch for that. 3 points of contact must be kept at all times. Pity the only thing to hold onto is gorse!
INCLUDED!!!!
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Resubbmitting A bridge to far you are missing something.
Perhaps a glance at the gallery or a google earth satelite image will help.
The description refers to the collection of caches rather than this individual one.
The ammo box is not hidden at all and when you get past the defences it will be in plain view. However it is well defended - like an ancient fort and you will need special equipment to get to it. The things that I used have been left just after a tree called JimHave corresponded with 'THE TIME LORD' [have always wanted too !]]
and will certainly include this cache. Furthermore this cache owner should be commited!!!
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Included, sounds great and am glad we have some Scottish entries, the opportunities are certainly there!!
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I am really sorry Haggis hunter, but unless I can be pursuaded otherwise I cannot include it as according to the cache description it really is just 'A walk in the dark'!How about A Walk in the Dark?
The route to the entrance is more difficult than actually getting in and finding the cache. I ended up hurtling down the slope on my rear end heading for the river, which is about 30 feet below the entrance, stopped just in time. Really scary if you suffer from arachnophobia as well.
The spider is on the top left of the picture
2 in this picture.
I'm the use of just pleased I hadn't seen the pictures before going.
If it involved the use of special equipment or involved a swim or climb/ squeeze then I would reconsider.
After all many caches are walked at night by torch light!
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I note that they are included in Mark & lynns listing however
From my memory of the I.O.M there are some very steep cliffs just outside Douglas [remember running along the coast road training for a marathon once]
Maybe an abseil down the cliff to place a cache?!!!
All the best
Andy
Well, it's your list! But a] does require climbing down a big cliff via a cave...and b] needs vertical climbing...
Does the 'vertical climbing' require use of a rope /ladder ?
There are many caches in the hills and mountains that require very steep scrambles and climbs which I have discounted unless they specifically requre the use of a rope for climbing or abseiling.
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Resubbmitting A bridge to far you are missing something.
Perhaps a glance at the gallery or a google earth satelite image will help.
The description refers to the collection of caches rather than this individual one.
The ammo box is not hidden at all and when you get past the defences it will be in plain view. However it is well defended - like an ancient fort and you will need special equipment to get to it. The things that I used have been left just after a tree called Jimchecking the eligability of this cache for the listing, is it scary enough to be included for this special listing of particularly challenging caches?
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A few more that fit the bill:
First 2, being reviewed to check eligability, they certainly look fun but are they scary enough?
3rd needs maintenance?
4th definately valid and included... nice one!
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The Bradda Lode II and The Money Pit have seen some struggles! Both require some difficult scrambling: the former is not for those with claustrophobia and without a head for heights.
Both look good, but sorry do not qualify as
a] there is a footpath to the top for the first and
b] would have been selected if the cache involved a climb down to the pit.
I note that they are included in Mark & lynns listing however
From my memory of the I.O.M there are some very steep cliffs just outside Douglas [remember running along the coast road training for a marathon once]
Maybe an abseil down the cliff to place a cache?!!!
All the best
Andy
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the only plus point about negative media publicity is that it clears the mountains and valleys of the 'tourists' which are the bane of all walkers and climbers in this area!
I don't think it was negative publicity, I think what you said about 'tourists' was exactly what Mountain Rescue and the media were trying to achieve. They know full well that they're never going to stop experienced and capable people heading out in these kinds of conditions but they can use the media to try and put off inexperienced people who think "how hard can it be..." and then get themselves into trouble.
could'nt agree more, but it makes those who do go up in the hills to be irresponsible, unsociable yobs. [now that may well apply but for other reasons!]
I have worked with mountain rescue teams [R.A.F Valley] in the past and i do think you are correct about them putting out a message that ends up stoping inexperiencd and experienced people going up in the hills in bad conditions. It is usually however only to answer the medias direct questions concerning casualties.
Maybe things have changed now as it was at least 20 years ago and Snowdon had only just had it's first ascent! )
That said, compared with say 25 years ago most have now got the message and they seem to carrying the correct sort of equipment and know how to use it!
GPS and mobile phones are great on the mountains unless they are misused [i.e phoning for help at the top as they are tired!]
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...this should at least cause people to relaise that they may be getting into something more extreme than usual.
If HUGE amounts of snow and ice don't make people realise that they are getting into something more extreme than usual then I doubt if a couple of little stars will do the trick
Agree.
In the early 1980's I planned to hitch up to N.Wales from Sussex for a long weekends hill walking.
There had been some bad weather reports on the hills with the media reporting that the police were turning people away from climbing up Snowdon as there had been 3 deaths that week owing to accidents.
However the weather report showed high pressure and despite Mothers protestations I went for it and had probably had the best few days Winter mountaineering in Wales ever.
The Snowdon Horseshoe was Comparable to the Alps with a sunny blue sky, and hard frozen snow even at Peny pass crampons used up and around everwhere.
Similar thing happening in the Lakes with the media having no idea at all about mountaineering.
Experience and good equipment is all that is needed and the only plus point about negative media publicity is that it clears the mountains and valleys of the 'tourists' which are the bane of all walkers and climbers in this area!
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Apart from a few, all these caches are 250+ miles away from me! Boo Hoo. When are you going to come and set some in the North East?
Have karabiners, will travel; but not that far.
No jerryo, it's over to you my friend!!!
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Ah OK, sounds like it will be an interesting list?
Has already created some interest [from the reviewers !!]
<<<snipped to save the mods doing it>>>
I would guess its not the reviewers but other people who have noticed this one and raised their concerns.
More a matter for private emails between you and them though than this forum.
Have you looked at the two i linked yet ??
Have corresponded with reviewer and agree with the descision , and why it had to be made.
Re : ''a bridge too far' which you suggested . Hell these are very subjective descisions but on this one I say no as the cache description refers to a 'steep walk'
Re 'Jonah's journey' well yes as a climb is involved by the sound of it.
May well be wrong and may be pusuaded otherwise!!
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Ah OK, sounds like it will be an interesting list?
Has already created some interest [from the reviewers !!]
They clearly did'nt like the look of wozzat and garyhoneys back sides as they have now archived 'GROUND RUSH' GC17YDG http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_detai...c6-f006a0387f97
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What about this one
INCLUDED !
Not sure that I like the sound of all that running water and open man holes[man traps]!
A good physical cache .
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A list already exists here.
I think the Nutter is trying to separate the harder ones out from our list.
The problem with the rating system is that it becomes almost useless at a certain level like Ben Nevis has to be a 5 terrain but dont look down also has to be a 5 terrain one you can walk to the other needs climbing equipment.
mark and lynn are correct, this is a listing that only includes those physical extreme challenges.
It is no substute for their very good listing as many of the caches in my listing are not 4/4 grade but involve maybe a 'scary challenge' that could be of interest to a number of hard nuts !
I have specifically excluded hill walks, mountains as there are too many intangable elements involved. i.e weather conditions, personal experience and physical fitness/ energy levels. Believe me having completed half the Munroes [in Winter] I know these are a challenge!
Hope the link is now working o.k
Map to follow [with kind assistance of andy33]
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Following a number of requests I thought it was time to collate a listing of this small niche of caches that involves a physical challenge or dare.
This could be a climb/descent,dive or jump or maybe just a very difficult physical move or squeeze..
difficulty and terrain grade levels would probably have to be at least grade 3 .
Please note the following criteria.
1] Inclusion is based purely on the physical aspect of the challenge and not on how mentaly challenging the cache is.
Thats not to say that these should not be included, but only if they conform to the criteria stated i.e the challenge should involve a degree of risk.
2] The fact that the cache is a long walk away or on top of a mountain is irrelevant.
unless of course it is located on a steep cliff face involving an exposed climb.
3]Difficult puzzle caches will be excluded from the listing as this is more of a 'Brawn than Brain' listing and ideally they should be readily accessable to all.
4] Please let me know if you have any caches that you would like included, there must be loads of them !
Initially if you look up 'A Bridge Too Far ' GC124HF and click on the bookmark listing you you will get to the site!
5] My p.c skills are limited and I may require some assistance from you guys if it does not all work out!
thanks in anticipation!!
CACHE U NUTTER
----- EXTREME BOOKMARKING LIST
http://www.geocaching.com/bookmarks/view.a...ae-e0f56c7c6c5c
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OK its sad but as this about hard caches i have "tried" to analyse the UK 5/5 caches (including archived ones) and have the following data.
Note its a about a month old
876 Cachers have (had) found 5/5 rated caches in the UK the total number of finds on these caches is(was) 1655.
They break down roughly as follows.
Rank Name No Of finds
1 MBFace 15
2 duncscott 14
2 fellsmanhiker 14
4 T-girls 13
5 Crag Rat 11
5 Tashington 11
5 The Hancock Clan 11
8 bsh92673 10
8 davy boy 10
8 happytrekker 10
8 Pengy&Tigger 10
8 The Great Redmondo 10
8 Wadders 10
If you like these challenges this forum may be of interest.
how about a league table for grade 4/4 as per your listing?
I had to use GSAK scrape all logs macro to do the current list on both active and archived caches.
To extend it by that many would make the data capture and manipulation really hard its the archived caches that are the issue.
Of course if someone could write me a clever gsak macro ??
SO WHATS ALL THIS DOUBLE I.T DUTCH!!!!
NICE THOUGHT ANYWAY !
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OK its sad but as this about hard caches i have "tried" to analyse the UK 5/5 caches (including archived ones) and have the following data.
Note its a about a month old
876 Cachers have (had) found 5/5 rated caches in the UK the total number of finds on these caches is(was) 1655.
They break down roughly as follows.
Rank Name No Of finds
1 MBFace 15
2 duncscott 14
2 fellsmanhiker 14
4 T-girls 13
5 Crag Rat 11
5 Tashington 11
5 The Hancock Clan 11
8 bsh92673 10
8 davy boy 10
8 happytrekker 10
8 Pengy&Tigger 10
8 The Great Redmondo 10
8 Wadders 10
If you like these challenges this forum may be of interest.
how about a league table for grade 4/4 as per your listing?
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I can only echo many of the comments made here.
'A further problem with that level of puzzle saturation is that the caches themselves may be in beautiful or interesting places which other cachers would like to see, but they don't know about them because the cache location is hidden behind a puzzle. A Trad, or even a Multi, would bring many more cachers to the area (which might or might not be a good thing
).'I TOTALLY AGREE !!!!
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Following a few requests for a google map of the bookmark list of all UK ireland, guernsey, jersey and Isle of Man caches rated Difficulty 4 and Terrain 4 and above we have added a map link to the bookmark list.
For those who wish to go straight to the map use this link.
Let me know if this any use please after you have scrolled U 110 of the map that is!!
Great to have a map, I was one of those who suggested it may be a good idea but have no I.T skills to put one together.
I would like to say WELL DONE !
but for some reason the link is taking me to an urban area Google map near Washington D.C !!!Have I done something wrong here?
Had a look at the 5/5 cache listed but was all at sea with it.
Give the map a few moments to load it always starts in America and then resets to the UK.
It was easy to set up i just have to give up a pocket query to it and the site does the rest.
Alkl working now
Brilliant!!!
A lot easier to plan my caching now using work as an excuse!!!
WELL DONE a million times !!!!!!!!
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If I can I use a Nissan Micra i.4L
I firmly believe that we should be reducing our carbon footprint, and geocaching is not the most 'green' activities around.This car has a 36-40mpg fuel consumption I can sleep easy at night and know I am doing my bit to save the planet !!
If longer distances are required I take my Ford Focus estate which now has all weather tyres and can take me practically anywhere in most weather conditions [driving to Swiss Alps in Feb]. 4 wheel drive vehicles are not required in the UK and generally speaking are not acceptable unless you are a 'chav' [slang brit word]
I firmly believe that we should be reducing our carbon footprint, and driving to the swiss alps is not the most 'green' activities around. By not driving to the swiss alps I can sleep easy at night and know I am doing my bit to save the planet !!
Generally speaking driving to the swiss alps is not acceptable unless you are a 'chav on tour' [slang brit word]
Not sure you understand English slang !! Chav refers to those driving around in 4X4 's . cite the number of them in Essex and many local authority estates around Britain.
Also known as 'Urban Tractors' [You really need them in these urban areas of course!
A car full of passengers [5] is the most environmentally sound method of traffic.
With this full load it's better a tortoise than being an environmental dinasaur!
Most Geocachers in the U.K I know are responsibly driving appropriate vehicles for their needs thank goodness.
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Following a few requests for a google map of the bookmark list of all UK ireland, guernsey, jersey and Isle of Man caches rated Difficulty 4 and Terrain 4 and above we have added a map link to the bookmark list.
For those who wish to go straight to the map use this link.
Let me know if this any use please after you have scrolled U 110 of the map that is!!
Great to have a map, I was one of those who suggested it may be a good idea but have no I.T skills to put one together.
I would like to say WELL DONE !
but for some reason the link is taking me to an urban area Google map near Washington D.C !!!Have I done something wrong here?
Had a look at the 5/5 cache listed but was all at sea with it.
BOOKMARK LISTING,EXTREME/PHYSICAL CACHES
in United Kingdom and Ireland
Posted
INCLUDED!!!!
