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  1. This information has not been released yet but we have a start point. This year's race will be run from East to West Very similar, only a few changes and clarifications Hmmm! Good point. We'll discuss this and get back to you. Nothing final yet. Maybe around mid April to mid October??? We'll post here when we've finalized the details. White Owl
  2. What a pity. I just heard about this race today. I would have loved to put in an entry. Maybe next year. My best to all your racers White Owl
  3. There will be a 2004 race. We are looking at an early April start time. Keep looking at the forums in late January or Febuary for details. Thanks to everyone for your interest and support. WO
  4. The winners's list has now been sent to the sponsors. It took me an extra day to do this because I had to double check on something... YUP! This is right! The first and second place winners (junglehair; Smokey and Marvin from mars; Eastbound and down) are brother and sister! And another entry, Monkey see owned by The Old Bat, is their mother. This is just too freaky!!! Lets see what wild and wierd things we can do next year. WO ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Anyone can go to a Tupperware party but it takes a special skill to hunt plastic containers in the wild.
  5. SO WHERE ARE THEY FROM??? I thought it would be interesting to make a list of where the Travel Bugs' home provinces (area) were. British Columbia ... 8 bugs Alberta ... 3 bugs Saskatchewan ... 0 bugs Manitoba ... 2 bugs Ontario ... 6 bugs Quebec ... 0 bugs Nova Scotia ... 0 bugs New Bruswick ... 1 bug Prince Edward Island ... 0 bugs Newfoundland ... 0 bugs Yukon ... 0 bugs Northwest Territories ... 0 bugs Nunavut ... 0 bugs New York ... 2 bugs Ohio ... 1 bug United Kingdom ... 2 bugs A special greeting to our international contingent. In next year's race, it would be great to see at least 1 entry from each province/territory as well as a greater international participation. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Anyone can go to a Tupperware party but it takes a special skill to hunt plastic containers in the wild.
  6. AND THE WINNER IS ..... On behalf of the 2003 Canadian Travel Bug Race committee, I would like to thank all those who made this event possible. Most of all, the race sponsors who's generous contributions made the prizes possible. Groundspeak http://www.Groundspeak.com/ GPS Central http://www.gpscentral.ca/ GPS City http://www.gpscity.com/canada Geocaching Hiking Sticks & Staffs http://geo-hikingstick.com/ Bumble Buttons http://bumblebuttons.com/index.asp Canadian Geocoins http://www.geocoins.ca/ USA Geocoins http://www.usageocoins.com/ We would also like to thank all the participants. We hope everyone had as much fun as we did and we hope to see you all in the 2004 Race. And finally, we would like to thank all the Geocachers who have moved the bugs. And now for the winners. 1st place 004 Smokey by junglehair with 5 provinces $125.00 gift certificate from GPS Central Hiking stick from Geocaching Hiking Sticks & Staffs T-shirt from GPS City 2nd place 012 Eastbound & Down by Marvin from mars with 4 provinces and 2838.14 miles $75.00 gift certificate from GPS Central Hat and Micro cache container from Groundspeak Buttons from Bumble Buttons $30 USD gift certificate from Geocaching Hiking Sticks & Staffs 3rd place 009 Perpendicular Migration by PDOP's with 4 provinces and 1383.12 miles $50.00 gift certificate from GPS Central Hat and Micro cache container from Groundspeak US GeoCoin $30 USD gift certificate from Geocaching Hiking Sticks & Staffs Most miles from the non-winners 019 I am Canadian by Team 35th Tecumseh Rovers with 3058.52 miles 5 Canadian Geocoins from Canadian Geocoins. (An interesting note here is that ‘I am Canadian' has more miles that any of the ‘most provinces' winners!) The 5 random winners are 002 Green Folks Bug by boreal jeff & sons 005 The Moose is Loose by coast2coast2coast 011 The Rocket by jackbear 014 Canadian Torch by StAlbert4 020 The Downunder-ground traveler by fizbot 1 Pocket Kit and 1 GeoPatch from GPS City Coincidentally, the second number drawn was my own but I didn't feel right about that so I threw it aside and drew another number. Again, a big thanks to all and we hope to see everyone in 2004. Watch this forum around February or March 2004 for news on next year's race. My best, White Owl white_owl@sympatico.ca ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Anyone can go to a Tupperware party but it takes a special skill to hunt plastic containers in the wild.
  7. quote:Originally posted by coast2coast2coast:I was wondering if My TB..The Moose is Loose and ....The Hayley Hedgehog TB are still in the random draw? Yes they are. All entries who don't win 1st, 2nd, 3rd or "most miles" will be in the draw. WO ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Anyone can go to a Tupperware party but it takes a special skill to hunt plastic containers in the wild.
  8. Oh! Zartimus!!! I love how your mind works May the force be with you! I only wish I were planning on being in the area soon. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Anyone can go to a Tupperware party but it takes a special skill to hunt plastic containers in the wild.
  9. quote:Originally posted by GroundClutter:Anyone know how I would get a hold of a person who approves (or not) caches on Vancouver Island? "You are cleared for geocaching." The two Canadian approvers are Cache-advance (Western Canada) and Cache-tech (Eastern Canada). You can find their e-mail addresses at the top of the 'Canada Forum' page as our forum Moderators. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Anyone can go to a Tupperware party but it takes a special skill to hunt plastic containers in the wild.
  10. quote:Originally posted by balloonatic: In other words, if the race were to end now would Smokey with 4 provinces and 2731 miles win or would I am Canadian with 3 provinces and 2972 miles win? I would think that provinces logged would take the prize! You're correct. If the race were to end today, Smokey would take first place because of having the most provinces. There are 5 bugs each with 3 provinces and second and third place would go to 'I am Canadian' and 'Xcountry-Duo Racer' respectively based on the miles. The 5 Canadian Geocoins for 'A non-winning travel bug who has traveled the most miles' would go to 'Jeep Race Bug' regardless of the number of provinces visited. Smokey 2731.31 miles 4 provinces I am Canadian 2972.77 miles 3 provinces Xcountry-Duo Racer 2590.21 miles 3 provinces Bear Bell 2467.43 miles 3 provinces Perpendicular Migration 1269.17 miles 3 provinces Cape Cod 883.03 miles 3 provinces Jeep Race Bug 2543.21 miles 2 provinces I hope this clears things up. White Owl ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Anyone can go to a Tupperware party but it takes a special skill to hunt plastic containers in the wild.
  11. Try this http://toporama.cits.rncan.gc.ca/topoin.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Anyone can go to a Tupperware party but it takes a special skill to hunt plastic containers in the wild.
  12. quote:Originally posted by DaveStephens:1. You're always on the wrong side of the river or stream 26. Then once you've crossed in a foot of water, you realize that you were on the right side in the first place. 27. After you cross back, you find a nice home made bridge just 100 metres down stream. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Anyone can go to a Tupperware party but it takes a special skill to hunt plastic containers in the wild.
  13. quote:where they have explicitly stated "TB's may have any other attachments that racers feel will improve their chances." Doesn't that open it up to any mode of transport This was specifically intended to mean a tag that would inform other cachers as to the intent of the bug. A perfect example of this is your card showing each provincial flag. (Great thinking there; my hat off to you for that peice of foresight ) But to interpret this to mean a mailing envelope is to bend the rules around 359 degrees. The basic purpose of any travel bug is to pass from cacher 1 to cache A; then from cache A to cacher 2 into cache B and so on. By mailing the bug, you are forgoing the caches and going from cacher 1 to cacher 2 without it being placed in caches along the way. I still feel VERY STRONGLY that mailing the bug is going against the spirit and intent of the race and merely testing the reliability of the postal system. This is NOT what is at the heart of the race. White Owl ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Anyone can go to a Tupperware party but it takes a special skill to hunt plastic containers in the wild.
  14. I don't like this idea at all! When I conceived the idea of the race, it was intended to have the bugs moving from one cacher to another via conventional transportation (i.e. by physically hopping to the next cache). We (the race committee) had discussed this at one point and we had agreed that mailing wasn't to be allowed but somehow, with everything else that we had to think of, this point was missed in the final draft of the rules. Anyone can mail a bug. Granted, it requires some planning but that isn't the intent of the race or Travel Bugs in general. I understand that Pure Luck's and Junglehair's bugs ended up state side but that's part of the uncertainty of the race and thus part of the fun. My own bug was picked up in Calgary and was headed for Quebec but ended up being placed in Massachusetts instead. I thought that this move had knocked me out of the race but I got an e-mail today from Painted1 who said "will be heading to Northern Vermont next week. I may even take a jaunt into Quebec so he's well on his way", I'm not down for the count yet. Again, I strongly state that I am very much against this concept. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Anyone can go to a Tupperware party but it takes a special skill to hunt plastic containers in the wild.
  15. quote:my question is would it be against the rules if we took it back and put it in the cache we orignally left it in.. so what do you think? SteelHead[bC] I have corresponded with SteelHead via private e-mail to get further details. I believe that, since the bug was not logged and a reasonable effort was made by SteelHead, it would be allowable to return the Rocket to The Mission. WO ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Anyone can go to a Tupperware party but it takes a special skill to hunt plastic containers in the wild.
  16. I am the Geocacher and my wife is the scrapbooker. She asked me to post this: Anyone have any scrapbooking information or ideas that they would like to share? Anyone have a web sites? e-mails welcomed white_owl@sympatico.ca ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Anyone can go to a Tupperware party but it takes a special skill to hunt plastic containers in the wild.
  17. I gotta brag Nelson Lake http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=3025 Rating: 2.5/3 (Should have been a 2.5/5 canoe or heavy bushwhacking needed) Placed: 6/9/2001 First find: 7/8/2003 Idle time: 2 years, 1 month minus a day First finder: ME ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Anyone can go to a Tupperware party but it takes a special skill to hunt plastic containers in the wild.
  18. quote:Originally posted by Acuracura:Since this is a _Canadian_ TB race, why don't we use the _Metric_ system? Please visit the Ham Radio Forums at http://www.ham-radio.ca. Thank you. Because Geocaching uses miles to measure Travel bug distances. It's easier to stay with miles that convert to kilometres. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Anyone can go to a Tupperware party but it takes a special skill to hunt plastic containers in the wild.
  19. I have to agree as well. My wife and I just did this one http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?pf=&ID=3025 which had been placed over two years ago. Having the 'first find' was a thrill but after it being a sleeper for that long made it that much more special. As someone else pointed out, you never know who may be planning a trip as we speak. I would have been disappointed had the owner pulled it before I had a chance to get to it. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Anyone can go to a Tupperware party but it takes a special skill to hunt plastic containers in the wild.
  20. Some good points have been brought up here. Maybe we could make a request to Geocaching admin to add buttons for these issues when posting a new cache. These could include: Dogs allowed or not Bikes allowed or not Watercraft required Wheelchair accessible Bushwacking required (and how far) Can anyone else think of anything that would be a concern or an issue? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Anyone can go to a Tupperware party but it takes a special skill to hunt plastic containers in the wild.
  21. I am pleased to announce that two new prizes have been offered. Canadian Geocoins http://www.geocoins.ca have offered 5 coins. These will be awarded to the travel bug that has travel the greatest overall distance as of the end of the race (October 31,2003). Also, Geocaching Hiking sticks http://geo-hikingstick.com/ has offered two gift certificates of $30.00 each USD towards the purchase of any hiking stick. These will be added to the 2nd and 3rd place prize packages. Again, we would like to thank the generousity of these, and all, sponsors. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Anyone can go to a Tupperware party but it takes a special skill to hunt plastic containers in the wild.
  22. quote:To white_owl if you wish to take over and lead us on jump right up to the front of the line and present your plan of action to the rest of us. I'm sorry if I offended you but this is my opinion. I don't want to take over the lead and my intention was not to try to usurp you. But perhaps I could assist you. The point about 'abandoned' is a good example. As I have mentioned, such a point must be brought up at the right time. Imagine that this issue finds it's way to the courts. The government always views any actions that they take in this light since it is a real possibility. The definition of abandoned is leaving something without having the intention to return to it. If the government goes to court and claims that the cache is 'abandoned property', they would loose that point regardless of the opinion of the park officials. A fine point but an important one. That is the art of negotiation. Park officials, from the minister to the summer student, are only trying to do their jobs. How do we show them that their jobs are made easier with the presence of Geocachers? What problems would Geocaching present in Provincial Parks and how can we offer solutions? Someone mentioned that in Florida, parks welcome Geocachers even having special log books for them to sign at the front gate. Contact them to find out what benefits they enjoy from the sport. And what problems so that we may find solutions. Anyway, I have kept quiet since this started and this will probably be my last post in this thread. If you care to contact me by e-mail to work on solutions, please feel free to do so. My best White Owl p.s. One point that I didn't agree with Bystander on is the stats. Even someone with a low number of finds can have something productive to offer.
  23. It's time to announce the prizes for the Canadian Travel Bug Race. On behalf of the Race committee, I would like to thank the generosity of our sponsors. (All prices are quoted in Canadian currency as of June 19, 2003) Groundspeak http://www.Groundspeak.com/ 2 hats and 2 Micro Cache containers (Value: $41.34) GPS Central http://www.gpscentral.ca/ $250.00 in gift certificates GPS City http://www.gpscity.com/canada 1 t-shirt, 5 Pocket Kits and 5 GeoPatches (Value: $117.70) Geocaching Hiking Sticks & Staffs http://geo-hikingstick.com/ 1 custom made hiking stick (Value: $55.00) Bumble Buttons http://bumblebuttons.com/index.asp 12 custom made buttons (Value: $13.36) USA Geocoins http://www.usageocoins.com/ 1 US GeoCoin (Value: $6.66) The sponsors are also paying for the shipping. As our way of saying thank you to our sponsors, please take a few minutes to visit their sites. And now ... The Prizes 1st place $125.00 gift certificate from GPS Central Hiking stick from Geocaching Hiking Sticks & Staffs T-shirt from GPS City Total prize package value: $197.95 2nd place $75.00 gift certificate from GPS Central Hat and Micro cache container from Groundspeak Buttons from Bumble Buttons Total prize package value: $129.70 3rd place $75.00 gift certificate from GPS Central Hat and Micro cache container from Groundspeak US GeoCoin Total prize package value: $98.00 Additionally, there will be 5 random draws amongst the non-winners consisting of 1 Pocket Kit and 1 GeoPatch from GPS City Total prize package value: $19.95 Should a winner be from outside Canada, the recipient is responsible for all taxes, duties, etc. levied by your government. Good luck to all.
  24. I can't blame Bystander for wanting to be anonymous. Contradicting views tend to get flamed. I have been watching this thread for some time with great interest but have refrained from expressing my views for this reason. However, now I choose to speak up. This issue was bound to come to the attention of the authorities sooner or later. How it started is irrelevant. As DonnaG pointed out, it is better that we addressed this now from the ground up rather that have a "suit" in Queens Park take the easy solution and ban Geocaches in Provincial Parks altogether. There seems to be a basic point that is being missed here. When approaching a government agency (or organization, or company, or individual), simply saying "I want ..." will not yield any results. You have to show them that Geocaching is beneficial to them. The following points (some of which have been brought up here already) have to be made: 1) Geocaching will bring extra revenue to the parks. My wife and I were planning a 5 day trip to a Provincial Park this summer to do some camping, canoeing, hiking and Geocaching. But with what's been happening, we've made other plans since we don't know if the caches will still be there when we go. 2) Participants are mostly naturalists pre-dating Geocaching. This is what drew us to this activity in the first place. As a result, we have a healthy respect for nature and wouldn't do anything to damage the environment. We only need to be pointed away from sensitive areas. 3) CITO. This is related to point # 2. I, for one, have been doing this since long before the first GPS satellite was launched. I'm sure that many others here will agree. Why, in general, is Geocaching a good activity? 1) Geocaching is healthy. Anything that sends you out on a good brisk hike is good for you. 2) Many families Geocache as a group spending quality time together. 3) Geocaching teaches and hones basic orienteering skills. In the long run, this means one less hunter or hiker or child lost in the woods. 4) After the purchase of the GPS, it is relatively inexpensive. Writing to the Premier is not a good idea. He has a lot of bigger fish to fry. Our route should be through the Minister of Natural Resources or one of his deputies charged with this responsibility. Writing to your local MPP may also be a good option. Perhaps drafting a standard letter would be a good idea. The letter written by gm100guy to the Premier is of poor quality. I don't feel that gm100guy is the right person to lead this crusade. I won't go into reasons why I feel this. If you agree with me, you will understand. If you don't you will only flame me (which will support my point.) One final fine point. The Provincial Parks Act (1990) section 15. (1) states "Any lost, mislaid or abandoned property ... is the property of the Crown." The key word here is "abandoned". Caches are not abandoned, they are placed there for others to find. The cache owner maintains it either by physically visiting it or by relying on other cachers to report any anomalies. Brought up at the right time, with the proper diplomacy, this point can carry a lot of weight.
  25. G.A.S. Geocaching Addiction Syndrome
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