Mad Dawgg

Audit Log? Sounds mysterious could you elaborate please? Mad Dawgg

Once again... safety has nothing at all to do with it. The guideline is all about illegal trespass. Ahhh interesting. So in my local area there is a public park that is butted right up against a RR track that is barely used. There is a rail fence between the RR and the park. No part of the park is over 150ft from the RR tracks. So I am wondering would it pass review to place a cache in the park. Why I ask is I have been talking to the mayor of our town about Geocaching and she suggested a cache in this park. I had told her it wasn't allowed because of the 150ft rule because I thought it due to safety. Most likely it would be approved, but be prepared to provide your reviewer with answers & possibly documentation. Photos may prove to be very helpful, especially in regards to the fence. A strong note on your cache page that "the cache is not on railroad property, do not cross the fence" might be wise, as well. Agreed. When there is a public park adjacent to an active RR track, getting explicit permission to place the cache in the park is likely to be required by the reviewer. This is an opportunity for Mad Dawgg not only to establish a good relationship with the leading town official and the game of geocaching but also to establish a working relationship with the local reviewer. Thank you for your replies and I will see about getting maybe a letter to forward to the reviewer. Maybe first I will contact our local reviewer to see if it is possible. Don't really want to waste the Mayor's time if the reviewer and/or Groundspeak is adamant about the 150 ft. rule. The nice thing is the park would be perfect and we could even tie in an event (like a special cache) for the week our town has a Street Festival. And on that note is it poassible to get one of those Souvenirs setup for caching say in the town proper during the festival? and if so who would I contact to see about it? Thanks all and thanks for this thread it may have given me the info needed to get some nice caches placed in our great little town. Lots of geocachers frequent areas close to us. I would love to get some good Caches here to make stopping in our town worthwhile for people who live outside our area. Thanks again Mad Dawgg

Once again... safety has nothing at all to do with it. The guideline is all about illegal trespass. Ahhh interesting. So in my local area there is a public park that is butted right up against a RR track that is barely used. There is a rail fence between the RR and the park. No part of the park is over 150ft from the RR tracks. So I am wondering would it pass review to place a cache in the park. Why I ask is I have been talking to the mayor of our town about Geocaching and she suggested a cache in this park. I had told her it wasn't allowed because of the 150ft rule because I thought it due to safety.

Buried and had food in it. The second cache also had alcohol. Wait stop you can't put alcohol in caches? Whew, I almost had a heart attack there. At first I read it incorrectly as, "you can't put alcohol in CACHERS" and I was envisioning the apocalypse... How awesome would it be to find a cold beer in a cache after a long summer hike.... I see the problems with my statement but I mean it would be awesome. Plus it would get a lot of teenagers active in geocaching if we stocked caches with booze. Well I would give it a favorite point (If it was a Guinness Extra Stout of course...) Mad Dawgg

That's not what most of us (or at least, not I) consider trading. That is buying. If your grandkids are going to want swag, bring swag, please. We don't all feel like this about change in a cache, for sure, but the subject has come up often enough over the years that I think its safe to say that most of us do. Many, for sure. Save your pocket change for the tooth fairy, OK? Disagree. What is "buying"? Is it not a trade? Money for items? Money is just an easy "place holder" for a trade - I trade my time/skills to a company for marks on paper (well, bits in computer these days), some of which are printed out and are carried in the wallet. These bits/paper then can be traded elsewhere of other items or services. In and of themselves they have little value, but what value we assign to them. So I could trade my money for items elsewhere, then carry those items to a cache, then trade for different itmes - two trades that can also be done in one trade. Money for items - items for money -items for items, it's all the same thing. Of course you are technically right about money being a trade item in real-life commerce. But in the case of geocaching, the object is to have a container that is full of fun "stuff", not full of pocket currency. It isn't about money. Its about toys. Ahh the First Geocache had money in it. So from the gitgo actual money was placed in caches. So the first Geocache was about indeed about money... and a tape player... and a video tape... and software... and a can of black-eyed peas (not beans)... So ya know... Mad Dawgg

One of my most horrible recurring nightmares involves being trapped in a Vegemite Factory during the inevitable Zombiepocalypse.

Obviously to put your extra ticks in...

To "start" Geocaching... Made it... Mad Dawgg

I go with- "I'm Beta Testing a new Tupperware container System. We figure if it will survive outdoors..." Mad Dawgg

Ahhh so now we know the answer to that age old question.... Bears do indeed "cache' in the woods...!

Once you log the bug as retrieved, grabbed. (A.K.A. placed in your inventory) Then there should be a listing for any bugs you have at the bottom of any cache log pages you visit. (The screen you use to log a cache as found etc.) There should be two choices (not sure if this holds true for Earth caches and such but traditional and multi should) The two choices would be "Drop it" or "visit". The visit choice gives you the TB log entry "geocacher took TB "to" cache."

I am currently in the process of building a Zombie themed TB Hotel (nice and large) with a combination Lock to put on my building. Any ideas to make such a successful venture would be appreciated...!

On my Etrex 20 I don't need to delete them individually if I put them on that way. In the menu section on one of the pages was a way to wipe the data (Sorta like a reset) you could wipe "track data" and "waypoints" etc. Not sure if the 10 has the same setup but I would think it should be close.

There are several TBs that are designed to be Discovered and not placed in caches. Like Geo Walking Sticks and Magnetic TB Auto Stickers. So by your definition these two examples would never be kosher to log. Food for thought. Mad Dawgg Won't log those either, unless I actually carry the walking stick from one cache to another. Never really needed a stat for a bug that I didn't assist. Funny enough, moving a bug ain't that hard. How would you go about "moving" a car sticker TB? First I would think you would need the car owner's permission and then the keys of course and then there are insurance concerns... I'm thinking Moving that particular bug might be harder than you are letting on. OR you could "discover" it being that is what it is designed for. Food for thought. Mad Dawgg

Park-n-Grab...?

There is a book I own called "The New Games Book" its subtitle is "Play Hard. Play Fair. Nobody Hurt." Its a rule I live by whenever I take up a new game or hobby. I engage in activity that gives me and my family pleasure as long as it does not "hurt" us or someone else. I love Geocaching because at its heart it is an embodiment of the "Play-Hard-Play-Fair-Nobody-Hurt" rule. And has things like "take something leave something of equal or higher value" and CITO. The only rules I see so far that can be considered "complicated" is "Cache Placement" rules and everyone of them I've read seem logical. (Don't place near Railroad Tracks etc.) And what I've read seems that even those "rules" are not set in stone. Because sometimes special circumstances exist that make that rule not a concern in that area. So, so far I don't see "complicated rules" ruining Geocaching. But maybe I am missing something.

Ya I'm overly relaxed around here...growing up in this area as a kid you could leave the keys in your car with it running and unlocked for an hour and nobody would touch it. Seems like things are getting a bit worse these days though....hearing more and more about petty theft. Better invest in a lockbox for the Jeep Due to my job I rent a room a ways from my house where I stay a few nights a week. Saturday morning I woke up and found my car broken into and my bike stolen. New window: $300.00 Bike: $450.00 Just an hour ago I came back to my room and it was broken into a nd my laptop was stolen. Laptop: $550.00 Total for a really bad weekend:: $1300.00 Ouch! I aways try to take my valuable stuff out or at least out of sight. Problem is I have boxes of just geostuff, like containers, camo, paint etc. Not worth much but breaking a window to find nothing of value really bites. The way the recession is I know many like me that can only afford liability and so windows and replacing of items is all out of my pocket. I've never been robbed before so I guess I've been really naive but lesson learnt. Right now I'm just waiting for the police to show up, I have a pretty good idea of who stole my laptop but I don't hold much hope I'll get it back. I guess the main thing I can be thankfully for is that what I have lost can be replaced. My town (A sleepy little burg of 6000 people) was one of those places where you left the front door unlocked and left the keys in the car. Neighborhoods were a tight group of friends. As time went on things changed little by little. Then a few years back we got bit by the Perscription drug madness. Now we have been invaded by "Pillbillies" country people who are hooked on Percocet and Xanex and Oxycodone. Its horrible. Old people get robbed in broad daylight. Nutjobs walk right in the frontdoor even if people are home and head straight for the bathroom to raid the medicine cabinet for Rx drugs to sell or ingest. The other day my wife and daughter went to the store and were coming right back so they left the door open (They were getting a load of bottled water for a school function) I sat and listened for them back in the TV room so I could help carry in the cases of water. I heard the door open so I yelled I was coming but I got no answer. As I walked past my daughter's bedroom I noticed someone standing in there thinking it was her I told her to come and help carry. I went to the door and no wife or car. I went back to the daughter's bedroom and realized it was some guy. He was whacked up on drugs and and barely understandable. He was looking for a bar. (He said of course he was holding her Wii Game console so I tend not to believe him) I grabbed a Baseball bat and chased him out. The cops came but didn't arrest him because they told me the judge just keep letting the guy out even when he is caught red handed stealing. They just don't have the jail space for anymore Pillbillies. Its getting a bit scary round here. So I am willing to bet your recent spate of burglaries is related to either Crystal Meth (Another problem we have around here) or Rx Medication abuse. My law Enforcement friends tell me 90% of the incidents they deal with are in someway related tp those two, B&Es to get items to sell so they can buy the stuff or just steal it outright from those with legit Rxs or domestic disputes over not having enough drugs for everyone, or domestic disputes because someone is high and going nuts (Crystal Meth can do that especially if it is a bad batch) Vehicle incidents because someone lost control while high. And then of course there is possession and possession with intent to sell. Sad but I bet if you check your area has the same problem and the crime rate soars when the madness gets a good foothold.

You're about 6 years late. The best cacher was already decided in posts #33 & #34. I would agree except for that " crack " cache that almost took me out Well I don't know who the best Geocacher is But I know who the best Geocache owner is (At least of the Cache's I've found. And its the second cache I logged.) Don't see how anyone is gonna beat that one Except maybe the guy who put one on the ISS. BTW thanks Bamboozle for placing it. My whole family loved it!

I'd say its 6-9 and pick 'em on either choice. Mad Dawgg

There are several TBs that are designed to be Discovered and not placed in caches. Like Geo Walking Sticks and Magnetic TB Auto Stickers. So by your definition these two examples would never be kosher to log. Food for thought. Mad Dawgg

On one of our recent finds the log was soaked and if we tried to sign it the paper started tearing. So we improvised and added a new paper that was dry. Is this considered bad form or is it kosher? (We counted it as found.) On another recent one in NOLA we found part of a cache (Magnet) but container was gone. We just logged a "Needs Maintenance" but not a DNF because we did sorta find it.

Mine was a Small Tupperware container hidden on the borderland of a local cemetery between two sandstone rocks about a mile from my house in Southern Ohio. My second was View Carre in NOLA. (If you are ever in The Big Easy, definitely do View Carre cache. You won't regret it!)

I purchased the Garmin Etrex 20 from Amazon for just a bit more than your 150 Dollar Limit. I've been very happy with it. You can sync it with the Cache webpage and it downloads a file (GPX IIRC) and has the Description, Hints, Logs and places an Icon on your Etrex Map screen. You click on the Map Icon and it gives you the description, if you wish to make the cache your next destination you click "Go" and it takes you back to the map screen and shows you a line directly from where you are on the map to the cache. If you wish to review the Cache description again you just switch to the Geocache section and it gives you a menu for Description, Logs, Hints etc. You can also enter your log right on the unit and I am told re-sync with the Cache page and it will load your log to the page. (Don't hold me to the re-sync part because I have never done it since entering text on the Etrex is slow without a keyboard so I have no direct knowledge if that feature works)

My Garmin Etrex 20 allows you to sync with the Cache webpage and then download a GPX file (IIRC) which has all the info on it. Descriptions, Hints, Logs, Map Position, Etc. Then you just click on the Cache Icon on the Etrex Map screen and it shows you the description. Click "Go" and it is your next destination. and then it puts you back to the map screen. Then if you want to review the Cache Info you choose the Geocache section and it shows you a screen with a menu that has Description, Hints, Logs etc. It also allows you to enter whether you found the cache or not and write a log. Though I've never used the feature my friend who has a Garmin sez it is possible to sync the log you entered into the etrex unit when you hook it up to you computer and surf to the Geocaching.com site Even if this is possible I doubt I would use it because entering text into the Etrex is slow without a keyboard and I tend to be a bit wordy when I enter Logs on the Cache webpage.

So, is it your experience that items other than Travel Bugs will repel Zombies as well? Geocoins for instance, or good Tradeables like badges and bracelets and such? absolutely . actually, just this morning I made a before-work find at a cache called Sanitarium Oasis - I dropped the lid to the cache while I was signing the log- as i reached down to grab it ,a zombie came lurching out of the bushes. I held up my fuchsia box-o-swag ( full of handmade stuff, even for tiny caches) and the zombie just gasped in awe and slowly spoke " I ... will .... let ..... you........ live... cache on, awesome Swagstress" Excellent! So Swag is a good Zombie Repellent as well. This is getting better and better. I think you read it incorrectly. The zombie was not repelled but put in check. I read it as being more of a 'get out of Jail Card' type thing. A free pass to survive another day. Still VERY Valuable stuff to have with you, and the higher the quality the stronger the effect. I'd suggest that perhaps unfairly traded items would reduce the potency regardless of their quality, since it is the trader that is being protected. A validation of the 'up or equal' trade clause. Doug 7rxc I believe you are right. Wise, very wise. and thus the "theory' is further defined. Well done. Mad Dawgg