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  1. A GPS probably won't do a moron much good. Have someone cut a 2x3 into a 5 inch piece, paint it black and put a mirror with some dots on it. For a moron this is very cool.
  2. This is how it works: long, lat. - the unit uses this to map the location, you never see the coordinates. name - the audible alert will sound, you will see the the name in a warning box, but you don't see the name on the map. symbol - this is the only display of your POI on the map.
  3. Topo maps are my biggest frustration with Garmin. They are making no attempt to update these maps, yet continue to sell them year after year.
  4. Not necesary to download multiple hydro files. These files contain large regions and will probably cover most or if not all of your seperate 50 mgb files. Also, using gpsmapedit you can add and paste the other 50 mgb files into your main file. A good practice is to be consistant. For example my topo files created are either the size of 24k or 100k depending on which maps I want to upgrade and add information to. Also, you can crop your files to specific sizes.
  5. Do yourself a favor and use MapSetToolkit. Once the img files are compiled, this application makes easy work of creating different mapsets.
  6. If Garmin would make the very least at minimal slightest attempt to update their pre-historic USTopo and 24Ks, I would be happy.
  7. The new version (1.11 BETA) indicates it is version 1.10
  8. Not to step on any toes, the best way to view the maps which you loaded on your gpsr is to transfer the maps from your gpsr to an untitled (blank) mapsource screen and view the maps listed under the map column. The maps which are transfered come in as highlighted (pink) and will be the only ones listed. It may well be that some states are bundled into one region.
  9. I was bushwacking in the Shenandoah Mts recently. Using 24K, I deducted that I was about 400' to the AT (Appalachian Trail), sure enough, I landed exactly where I thought I would. Coming back down, I went exactly back to the point I left a trail. I have been saying, and I continue to say "You never get lost with a GPS".
  10. I guess I don't understand what you mean... Didn't MapSource come with your 60CSx? Using MapSource, all waypoints, tracks, routes, etc that are currently loaded into MapSource are uploaded to the unit together when you "send" to the unit, and all waypoints, tracks, etc on the unit are downloaded to the computer when you "receive" from it. I don't understand?? I have the c320 and the 60cs and transferring waypoints, maps to and from either unit is a breeze with mapsource. With the 60cs, transferring routes and tracks to and from is equally easy. And the POI Loader, never had problems with the c320.
  11. Even if the government provides the maps for free (like the USA), they are hopelessly outdated. No one is willing to spend the resources to update topo maps. Garmin should make the effort. Garmin makes its maps propritary. To make makes yourself, comercial software like GPSmapper is unreliable and expensive. It would be nice to take routable topo maps like 24K and update them. But the problem is that to retain the routablilty you need the expensive software. I would spend the $800 on the full version of GPSmapper if I was able to update all the maps, but obviously, I don't have the resources to go out and survey the entire US. It's not worth it to me to update only 1 map. I have done the survey for one map area and I can freely give out this information. Why can't there be some kind of system to consolidate individuals efforts and why can't Garmin undertake this effort?
  12. Creating custom backgrounds, lines, etc. is all well and good. The problem I have is customizing existing 24K or US topo Maps. When I go out, I add tracks or points for new features which I want to incorporate into my existing maps. GPSmapper basic loses routing, some backgrounds, indexing, etc. These are lost when I add my features. Solution: Buy the full blown feature for $700? This includes routing in the personal version, but there are limitations. I hate to think what the comercial version would cost. Do I want to buy either version for the few tracks that I have produced? Think not. Two things working against me. GPSmapper is too expensive for most users to reproduce Garmin maps. I only have a few maps that I need to reproduce, but to get the original functionality, I have to spend big bucks. How many maps can 1 person make? These are fairly generalized and will only be usefull for about 1 out of 1000 persons. Garmin is also very closed and is only actively working on City Navigator through Navteq. These cannot be hacked. Even if they could, it goes back to the problem with GPSmapper. There is no viable system for correcting exiting Garmin maps. Garmin wants to corner the market on gpsr, but shame on them for making no effort whatsoever to update topo maps or making the system so prioritary that I don't see any light at the end of the tunnel. We can make all the simple maps we want, but I find it much easier to retain existing Garmin maps and upload all the information I have collected in the field whenever I go out to a particular area. If someone can refute this, please let me know.
  13. Here is a program that will greatly simplify the importing of an .img file into Mapsource. It will: a) remove the need to edit the registry ' remove the need to edit the test_pv.txt file c) allows quickly to add or remove Mapsets from Mapsource (and deletes the registry entries). d) Verifies the Mapsets which are in Mapsource. Go to: http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.a...amp;whichpage=2
  14. Is there a program to transfer the tracks from the NG site to Mapsource? From what I understand, you can download all the trails you want from NG, but you can't use this on a gps.
  15. The bottom line is that if your survey has at least one point tied to a known system, you can do the conversion. However, some surveys are tied to an arbitray system so as to establish a plane in which to the survey points can be related to one another such as in submitting a plan for approval. Plats are have some starting point which is used as a reference. If the plat is part of a larger development, you need to research the development plat to find the starting bench mark and calculate the remaining coordinates. Depending on the jurisdiction, the survey may be part of a state plane coordinate system, or a USGS bench mark. If the survey is not tied to a known system, then you need a surveyor to do so, or rent the necessary equipment, find the nearest official benchmark, and tie one point of your plat to it, then calculate the remaining coordinates. However, usually, the coordinates will not be recognized officially without a surveyors stamp.
  16. Here's an ammendment to include editing existing .img files: Well here it is finally. Step by step to make custom topos. If you get stumped just ask and I will try to help. Also if you make some please share them so others can use them. Go to 1. http://mapcenter.cgpsmapper.com/ and upload you finished mp file. Well here it is. If you have any suggestions on how to make it better please do so. You can also copy and paste it in word for easier reading. Most information is from http://home.cinci.rr.com/creek/garmin.htm Making Custom TOPO maps: 1. Download the following programs and install them: A. DEM2TOPO from: http://people.uleth.ca/~brad.gom/dem2topo/index.htm B. IDL Virtual Machine (IDL VM) from: http://www.rsinc.com (DEM2TOPO will convert USGS digital elevation model (DEM) data to contours, IDL Virtual Machine is the software engine that allows DEM2TOPO to work - If using existing mp files converted from .img files, these are not needed). C. GPSMapEdit from www.geopainting.com D. cGPSMapper from www.cgpsmapper.com E. If editing an existing Garmin Topo or 24K map (adding tracks as roads, trails, etc., and waypoints, or parks (background) as permanent features, and/or deleting outdated information: 1. Open mapsource and locate the file you wish to edit, otherwise skip to step F.- “Go to 1. http://seamless.usgs.gov/ ...........” 2. Double click the .tdb file associated with the Garmin USTopo or 24K. Zoom in until the names of the .img files appear. Right click on the segement and click on properties. Verify that the name of the file corresponds to the .img file you will edit. 3. Back up the .img file. You can either replace this file with your edited file, or use it along with the original file in your gpsr and mapsource. 4. Go to step I5 - “Next is to edit the .mp file in GPSmapedit.” Instead of choose your mp file to open, choose your .img file to open. 5. “Add” your .gdb (Mapsource), with your tracks and waypoints you wish to add, or “add” any of the supported files. 6. Right click on any of the features from the added file to import them into the .mp file. 7. Rename to map to something like Original, ST edited, if so also change the 8 digit number to another 8 digit number.. 8. You may wish to proceed to F or skip to step I7 - Click on file, map properties, Click on the cGPSMapper Tab and make sure the Map transparent box is still checked if not check again and hit apply then save the map. 9. Go to 8. Open a “command window” (DOS prompt): Start > Run, type “cmd” and click “OK”. F Go to 1. http://seamless.usgs.gov/and download high resolution DEM data (for Canada go to http://www.geobase.ca/geobase/en/index.html) A. Make sure to visit the FAQ if running SP2 for XP and allow downloads and make trusted site in order to get info. B. for USGS click on view and download U.S. data C. Click on the zoom in tool and zoom in to your area of interest D. Use either define download area tool under downloads or define area by coordinates tool to download your area (if replacing or updating USTopo or 24K, choose coordinates tool to define the area of the existing map to replace). E. An SDDS Request Summary Page will appear, click on modify data request F. Uncheck the National Elevation Dataset (NED) 1 Arc Second, let the page refresh G. Check National Elevation Dataset (NED) 1/3 Arc Second box, let the page refresh H. Change form ArcGrid to GeoTiff, scroll to the bottom of the page I. Change the Maximum size (MB) per piece from 100 to 50mb (I found that working with files under 50 mb is easier and faster) J. Click save changes & Return to summary. K. Click on download and save your data, unzip you files, save the data anywhere you want just don’t forget where you put it. 3. Next is to convert the GeoTiff to an .mp file (an mp file is a file that we will manipulate latter on) A. Double-click on dem2topo.sav to start the program, IDL will start and run dem2topo B. Select units feet or meters, set your minor contour intervals, set your intermediate contour interval, and your major contour interval ( I set them to 20 feet, 200 feet, and 500 feet…..for minor contour intervals less than 10 feet makes your map very cluttered) C. Change your plot refresh interval to 99 D. Next click on Select DEM files, find your GeoTiff file and open it (select DEM file if you are from Canada here) E. Your map screen will go black while it is loading so give it time F. After it has loaded simply click on create .mp file and watch it work 4. Next is to download your water data(if you don’t need nor want water data skip this part) A. Go to http://nhdgeo.usgs.gov/viewer.htm B. Zoom in to your area of interest C. Under layers open the Hydrologic Units and put a check in the Subbasins box(anytime you check a box that item will show up on the map when you hit redraw the map, so you can turn on cities or counties to figure out where you are) D. Next open the NHD High Res tab, you may or may not see anything here, ,the more you zoom in the more things that show up to turn on or off,so keep zooming in and something should show up here. E. When the NHD High Res data shows up put a check in the box for the following:NHDFlowline,NHDArea,NHDWaterbody F. Next put a dot in the circle of Subbasins, Subbasins will now have a checked box and dotted circle(the dotted circle tells the download what to download while the checked box tells what to display on the map) G. Click on the polygon extract tool, click in the area you want to download, H. A NHD Geodatabase Extract should appear, For #1 put a dot in High Resolution, for #2 put a dot in the shapefile, #3 enter your email address I. A link will be emailed to you to download the data, It might take a while so be patient, when you get the data unzip and save where you can remember. 5. Next is to edit the .mp file in GPSmapedit A. Open gpsmapedit, click file open and choose your .mp fileB. . Click on file then map properties and do the following ; 1. change type set to Garmin 2. give the map an 8 digit ID number 3. give the map a name 4. click on the levels tab and hit the insert before tab do this until you have level0= through level5= 5. Change the settings to look like this; Level0=24 bits mapsource zoom=under1.2km Level1=23 bits mapsource zoom=1.2-3km Level2=22 bits mapsource zoom=3-8km Level3=20 bits mapsource zoom=8-12km Level4=19 bits mapsource zoom=12-30km Level5=18 bits mapsource zoom=50-120km 6. Click on the cGPSMapper Tab and check the Map is transparent box 7. Click apply 8. Next click on view, then levels and select level 4. This will be a white page 9. Click on the wand tab(create object) and select point, Click on your map and create a settlement(less 100) and click ok 6. Next is to import your waterways A. Click on file, import and select ESRIshape(*.shp) B. Go to your download water ways folder and open the subfolder hydrography and click on NHDArea 1. Select type of objects, click on from list tab and select 0X0045Blue- Unknown,hit next 2. Select source of labels, click on the GNIS_Name tab, hit next 3. Select source coordinate system, make sure datum is WGS84, hit next 4. Select zoom levels to import, check levels 0,1,2,3, hit finish C. Click on file, import and select ESRIshape(*.shp) D. Go to your download water ways folder and open the subfolder hydrography and click on NHDFlowline 1. Select type of objects, click on from list tab and select 0X0001River ,hit next 2. Select source of labels, click on the GNIS_Name tab, hit next 3. Select source coordinate system, make sure datum is WGS84, hit next 4. Select zoom levels to import, check levels 0,1,2 hit finish E. Click on file, import and select ESRIshape(*.shp) F. Go to your download water ways folder and open the subfolder hydrography and click on NHDWaterbody 1. Select type of objects, click on from list tab and select 0X003bBlue- Unknown,hit next 2. Select source of labels, click on the GNIS_Name tab, hit next 3. Select source coordinate system, make sure datum is WGS84, hit next 4. Select zoom levels to import, check levels 0,1,2 hit finish G. Go to view, levels and select level0 H. Next go to tools and select trim. Trace the area around your elevation data then right click and select trim outside(this gets rid of extra water ways) I. Click on tools, remove object duplicates 7. Click on file, map properties, Click on the cGPSMapper Tab and make sure the Map transparent box is still checked if not check again and hit apply 8. Click on file save map as and save your file (Polish format(*.mp,*txt.) 9. Click on “File > Export GarminIMG/cgpsmapper.exe”. (This program has to be downloaded prior so look at the website in this step), name your file and save it, then search for the cgpsmapper.exe file that you saved earlier and click on run and wait until it says “Export is complete” and click “Ok”. END of gpsmapedit☺? 1. Find your newly created .img file and change the name to the 8 digit number that you gave the map in step 4B. 2. You can now send the map image to your GPS or Mapsource. My instructions follow: 3. Create and compile your map using cGPSmapper. You must give it a name of all numbers: ex. 10000123.img. (You already did this in Step B2.) 4. Create a folder named “custom” under the Garmin folder and copy your custom map to it. (Only do this for the 1st map ONLY.) 5. Copy cGPSmapper.exe to the same folder. 6. Copy test_pv.txt (found in the Test_Map folder of cGPSmapper) to your custom folder. 7. Edit test_pv.txt (using NotePad or WordPad – works best) so it looks something like this and “File > Save”: [Map] FileName=CINtopo ‘ anything MapVersion=100 ProductCode=111 ‘ a different number for each custom map (not sure this matters) Color=32 Levels=2 Level0=20 ‘ this should be the least detailed (but not empty) layer on your map Level1=17 ‘ anything Zoom0=5 Zoom1=6 MapsourceName=CINtopo ‘ anything (this will be the name of the files and registry entry) MapSetName=CT ‘ anything CDSetName=CT ‘ anything Copy1=Garmin Copy2=Stan [End-Map] ‘ You should do this - delete the Dictionary section that shows up in your “test_pv.txt file”. [Files] img=10000123.img ‘This is your map file name. *** MUST be numbers *** ‘ YOU CAN HAVE SEVERAL OF THESE “img” LINES. They will all be compiled into a single preview map, and you can select and upload them to your GPS individually using Mapsource. [END-Files] 8. Open a “command window” (DOS prompt): Start > Run, type “cmd” and click “OK”. 9. Now type “cd c:\garmin\custom” in the command window to change the directory to the “custom” folder and click “Enter”. 10. Create the preview files: type “cgpsmapper pv test_pv.txt” and click “Enter”. This creates a small preview map file (.img), a table file (.TDB) and a registry file (.reg). You Don’t Have To Do Steps 11-13 Except For You’re 1st Custom Map ONLY 11. Edit the registry file (i.e. CINtopo.reg) that was just created in your “Custom” folder: Right click on it and select Edit. Change the folders (directories) so they point to your custom folder. Yes, you need the double back-slashes: REGEDIT4 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Garmin\MapSource\Products\CINtopo] “LOC”=”C:\\Garmin\\custom\\” “BMAP”=”C:\\Garmin\\custom\\CINtopo.img” “TDB”=”C:\\Garmin\\custom\\CINtopo.tdb” and click File > Save. 12. Run the registry file (double click it) that you edited in your “custom” folder and select “yes” to load it into your registry. 13. Open Mapsource. If you made a registry file mistake you will get an error saying to reinstall MapSource. Don’t worry, you don’t have to reinstall. Just run “regedit” (seek help if unsure about this!) and remove the “HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Garmin\MapSource\Products\CINtopo” key. Repeat the above steps until you get it right. 14. You should now see your map listed in MapSource along with your other Garmin maps in the ‘Product’ list as “CINtopo”. 15. Select (click) your map and the preview map will show up in the map area of the screen. Since we did not go to any trouble to make the preview map pretty you will see an outline and not much more. You may be able to zoom in to see more detail of your custom map. 16. You should now be able to use the “Map Tool” to select your custom map for uploading and upload it with your other maps. Thanks to Groundspeak members GeoBobC and EAParks for all their efforts. Rev.1; 09-29-2006
  17. Giving your life story is safe. You won't have your story sold or added to spam sites. I've had VM on my comp for 5 mos. and no indication that my life story was given to the enemy.
  18. Since I have both USTopo and 24K, what I normally do is download from USGS the exact area as a 24K map segment (choose the area to be downloaded by coordinates - checking the area on Mapsource first). When I finish my map, this will replace the original 24K segment, but does away with the overlap of surrounding original maps. If it is outside the area of 24K, then I download the size of a USTopo (100K) map and follow the same procedure. If you haven't done this, it is possible to merge mp files and crop down to fit the above sizes. If you don't have and not wish to use the Garmin maps, then size doesn't matter as long as you have a system not to overlap your custom maps with new ones, although it doesn't make that much difference, justs makes more efficient.
  19. I believe that converting a .gpb to .gpx is no longer necessary. Download the latest version of GPSmaped. I have attached my field data .gpb file to my mp file and can bring in my tracks, waypoints, and routes to the mp file. Each time I go out to the field and gather more data and upload to my .gpb file, as stated above, the when opening my mp file, the update is shown. Also, to re-iterate, you can add an .img file such as USTopo or 24KTopo. To identify the file you need, open (double click) your USTOPO24K_(EAST,WEST, or whatever)V3.tdb or your Topo100USE.tdb, topo100alaska.tdb, Topo100USW.tdb, or topo100hawaii.tdb file.
  20. To taylor labels special coding is applied to the label under Object Properties (when right clicking and selecting and object): ~[0x1b] - Used before a normal letter force it to be a lower-case (only in GPS) ~[0x1b2b] - Separation: on the map visible only the second section (when over 1km), with the mouse sees displayed one the word completely, not separated. ~[0x1b2c] - Separation: on the map visible only the first section (when over 1km), with the mouse sees displayed one the word completely, not separated. ~[0x1e] - Separation: on the map visible only the second section (when over 1km), with the mouse sees displayed one the word completely, by blank separated. ~[0x1f] - Separation: on the map visible only the first section (when over 1km), with the mouse sees displayed one the word completely, by blank separated. Normaly used as a separator before elevation 6bit 8bit coding ~[0x2a] {~[0x01]}- Interstate highway ex. ~[0x2a]12 ~[0x2b] {~[0x02]} - Higway - shield ~[0x2c] {~[0x03]} - Higway - round symbol ~[0x2d] {~[0x04]} - Higway - small symbol - blue/red ~[0x2e] {~[0x05]} - Higway - big symbol ~[0x2f] {~[0x06]} - Higway - small symbol - white Here are some examples in my mp file: LEWIS MOUNTAIN~[0x1f]TRL BUSH MOUNTAIN~[0x1f]3527 E~[0x1e]BRANCH NAKED CREEK~[0x1f]TRL
  21. Garmin USTopo and 24K Topo come strickly from USGS 1:100K or 1:24K maps. If the grossly outdated USGS map is incorrect, then the Garmin Topo is incorrect. Groundspeak should add a section for custom maps.
  22. you need to select the map using the select map tool. This reminds me .... instruction under item IB3 should be ammended to add the following - the name you select is the name that appears for the map when selected in Mapsource.
  23. If you plan to sell your Quest, then you can transfer your unlock code to the buyer, you would have to get a new copy of Mapsource Navigator. Or you can sell your Quest letting the buyer know that he would have to purchase Mapsorce, and just go for the update. I don't know why pre-programmed micro SD cards don't offer N.A.
  24. The devil is my savior since I behold to no being.
  25. It may take up to 3-4 minutes to aquire a lock under tree cover. However, under heavy tree cover, it may take longer or not at all. Once acquiring a lock, my experience has been I will only lose reception with a combination of tree cover and overcast sky. Using a gillson antinenna, I will lose reception only under heavy tree cover and overcast, foggy conditions. But you have a defective unit if you lose reception with only some cover.
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