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Korichnovui

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  1. Please see Project GC's facebook post about their adventure lab. Personally I'm glad Groundspeak may be cracking down on these locationless adventure labs. To me it smells like the old virtuals, which (so I've been told) became too bland and ubiquitous. I did several of these locationless AL's and, while I thought they were "cute", I didn't really think they were "adventures" worthy of adding a ton of finds to my account. I appreciate that people are experimenting with Adventure Labs, as they ought. Think outside the box, that's awesome! I just felt like it was "too different" from what geocaching is, and thought it was really weird that it added a ton of finds to my account. I decided to delete the finds off, it just felt like the right thing for me to do (I'm not trying to project this onto anyone else). One thing I realized as I was reading through this thread, is that I bet different people have different ideas about what is and isn't "geocaching". This is just how I felt about it, personally.
  2. Shoot, after posting this I just remembered that there's a specific forum for this sort of thing. And of course they're already discussing it there. Sorry I'm bad at foruming.....
  3. I noticed on Reddit a rash of posts advertising "locationless" adventure labs that have been put out. They are "locationless" because there is an option, when making an adventure lab, to have no geofencing at all, meaning the objectives can be met regardless of your location. One of them was made by project-gc.com, encouraging you to explore various corners of their website to obtain code words. You could earn 5 "finds" from that one, which add to your total finds. There's another one from an Australian geocacher encouraging you to find code words sprinkled throughout his profile page, stats, logs he's written, etc. A third one I looked at was an HTML-based puzzle. I was interested to discover this post from project-gc about their lab cache, which they've now cancelled. I feel relieved. Certainly there's a part of me that wants to say, "Whatever, let people play how they want to play." But another part of me feels that this is not what Groundspeak intended. I'm reminded of the discontinuation of virtual caches because of their increasing blandness and ubiquity. This seems like it could be headed the same way if they don't nip this in the bud. I am working on creating an adventure lab, myself. It's going to be more of a multi-cache style adventure in a local wilderness preserve, something that gets you out and about, geocaching style. And there are geocaches hidden in that locale, and I"ll also have a "companion" cache to go along with it. I'm excited to help Groundspeak try out this experimental new thing, but a part of me wonders how much my idea differs from just a multi-cache.... Perhaps my idea isn't "out of the box" enough. Have you seen good adventure labs that are distinct from existing multicaches?
  4. The 7 year old can barely read. But sometimes he helps come up with something to say. And it’s still sometimes an ordeal for the kids to make the logs as we only have 1 device and a desktop. Logging in and out, finding the cache, etc.
  5. Yep 3 of my kids have accounts. Their interest waxes and wanes, and I don’t push it. It can be a pain logging a find on all the different accounts. It was a “major project” when 2 of my kids completed a geocoin challenge last year and we found 28 or so caches in 1 day. I’ve gotten adept at using different browsers on the desktop, one for each cacher, with URL copy/paste.
  6. No, way different part of the world, and I don't get the joke...
  7. These are great points that are helping me to understand the issues better, just having never thought about it before. I was thinking in terms of myself, where if I volunteered to be a caretaker then it would of course be for purposes of respecting the original hide while also keeping an "historic" cache alive. But I can see how it wouldn't always work out that way. Thank you for your insights!
  8. So the proto-original question I had was, what do people have against an abandoned cache going up for adoption without CO’s consent? The process could look like this: -The reviewer asks On the cache page for someone to volunteer to be cache guardian -If no one does in the allotted time frame then cache is archived -If someone comes forward then they are “cache guardian” until CO comes back and says they’re ready to take care of their cache again (if ever)
  9. I think some of the oldness factor specifically comes from the Jasmer challenge. The rarer it is to fill the Jasmer spot, the more people care about the oldness of that cache, at least that’s my guess. There are probably other factors too that could be fleshed out by more experienced cachers than me. I remember finding a 2001 cache that is not far from my home and it still had the original logbook in it, good condition. I was pleasantly surprised to see the page-long entries that early cachers had written in it. It blew my mind and really had a strong impression on my whole outlook of the hobby. Should all caches be preserved? I don’t think so. It’s great for an area to open up for someone to be able to put a fresh new idea there. Should certain ones try to be preserved? I don’t know but it’s interesting to think about.
  10. Pardon for bringing this up, I feel like I've read about it on the forums before but not able to search it up. A friend of mine that I got into caching recently visited another country and did a little caching. He did a popular virtual there (among others). The CO deleted his find. Now they're in a struggle where my friend keeps reposting the find and the CO keeps deleting it. I reviewed the situation and my friend appears to have done everything correctly. The CO appears to be quite unreasonable (I haven't contacted that person but saw their communications). My friend would like to log the find. Does he have any recourse? Anyone have experience navigating this sort of thing?
  11. Last year I had been scouting a place for a cache in a wilderness preserve area in the middle of town. I got excited that maybe I had found a nice little nook but soon discovered a makeshift latrine. A low-lying horizontal branch served as a seat, under which was a small mountain of “brown stuff”, and next to it was an immense pile of toilet paper. I left quickly, disappointed and disgusted and not sure that I should hide a cache anywhere near that area after all. I guess a few homeless folks are camping out in that area.
  12. One reason to save legacy caches is for stats. It’s a significant part of the game for a significant amount of players (at least, I assume it is). Project-gc.com specifically tracks it. One of the most well-known challenges is to complete Jasmer. Eventually Jasmer will become literally impossible, and then you’ll have “Jasmer 2002” or whatever oldest year is still do-able for new cachers. I’m not saying that’s a good or a bad thing, I can see pros/cons both ways, I’m just saying it’s “a thing”.
  13. I’m curious to know why it was poorly received. I get that sometimes people are happy to see a cache go and a spot open up for a new cache. That’s cool. But there’s also a subset of the community that appreciates the “oldness” of some caches. Heck it’s the reason why this thread even exists. Usually nobody gives a crap if some random cache is going to be archived....
  14. Would people ever possibly warm to the idea of involuntary adoption to a willing active user? I mean, if there’s no response and the cache gets archived, is it so bad to instead turn over control to someone else who is willing to upkeep it? The CO clearly doesn’t care in the former situation, so would they care about the latter? Just curious. I suppose there’s the awkward situation of a CO that had taken a hiatus and then they get back into the hobby later, and now their cache is owned by someone else. That would be weird.
  15. I agree. Also relevant to OP: I was actually awarded an adventure lab credit last week, and they want it to be “public” or live by May. It will be the first/only adventure lab (not counting temporary ones from a mega last year) in my community. I plan on creating a “companion cache” to increase visibility of the adventure lab.
  16. Also 2 of my kids have “polaroids” they’re trendy again, probably for the reason stated above
  17. yes, doing 1 Wherigo was enough for me! I also have a sort of goal to try to create as many different kinds of caches as I can, so I did look into making a Wherigo, but decided not to pursue it.
  18. I made a small series of YouTube puzzles. Well, one savvy cacher subscribed to my YouTube channel and was able to solve one of the puzzles before it published on geocaching.com . Silly me, I hadn't thought to make the YouTube videos "unlisted". Live and learn! For the cacher that solved the puzzle (and found the cache) before publication, I say more power to them.
  19. You may get more first-hand information too by messaging some of the people that find caches in that general area (if you haven't already)
  20. I attended a Mega in 2018 where they put out a bunch of new caches. This Mega happens to take place in my home town every year. Once we all split up to start finding the caches, I strategically chose one that was somewhat out of the way of the natural main loop to get all the caches, GC7NT54, with intent of being FTF. Sure enough, I got there first and inked the completely empty logbook. I then got on my app to be the first to log online, as well, before an onslaught of other Mega-attendees logged it, and much to my surprise, someone had already logged a find online! I was rather distressed for a minute there, thinking I may have made a mistake, but no, there was really no way anyone could have gotten there faster than me, I was pretty quick out of the parking lot, and also the logbook was completely empty. It appears to me that the person who logged it online ahead of me...may not really understand how geocaching works. I've kept this one as an FTF on my list.
  21. The example of mystery caches was actually a very good example of a different way of looking at your issue, to gain insight. I invite you to think about it some more and not just brush it off. The way I see it, people could discuss the nuances or parse words for many more forum pages and not find a consensus. That’s because there is no official ruling on FTF. Basically, hundreds of people could claim FTF on 1 cache over a period of years. It doesn’t make any sense, but there’s nothing to stop them. They can tag it as [FTF] so that it shows up on project-gc.com as a legitimate FTF. They can put it on a public bookmark of “my FTF’s”. Okay great. Other players don’t care. Other players can discern the “truth” (in their own eyes) easily enough. At the end of the day, just play the game for yourself. If you feel like you were FTF through some edge case or rules lawyering, then go for it. It’s you, in the end, that will admire your FTF list more than anybody else and you’ll know in your heart how true and accurate it is.
  22. I got one. Being relatively new to the hobby, only having attended a few events myself, I'd love to hear about some cool/memorable events that other people have been to over the years.
  23. If I understand this right, you’re trying to make a Trifecta challenge. If you read the rules, you’ll see they demonstrating that the challenge is “do-able” is one of the rules. Nobody said you have to find “hundreds” but a sampling will do. In this situation I may try looking up the profiles of several prominent cachers in the area (more than 10k finds) and see if they’ve completed the a trifecta. Get a list of maybe 3-4, I bet that would satisfy the reviewer. You could also ask around a little on the local geocaching social media sites to see who has completed the trifecta, and get some names that way. Send messages to some of the prominent cachers. Etc. I think you only need about 3-4, that would probably be adequate.
  24. Actually I thought the analogy was good. Throwing a party for your friends can be a lot like a gift. Even more than a gift sometimes. You put time, effort, and money into it. Making a cache for the community can feel similar. Anyway, the analogy worked for me. But it won't work for everyone. Different cache owners view things differently.
  25. I also found this statement interesting. I think we are straying into an area now where different people will have different opinions about what is "correct". Is it okay to give hints or not? In this case, people asked for a hint and I gave it. Then they found the cache and added +1 smiley to their account. Maybe some people are offended that those finders didn't really "earn" it because they had to get help, get a hint. It's not "fair" to compare them to someone else who solved a 4-star difficulty puzzle without any help. I can understand that point of view. But at the same time, if someone asks for a hint on a puzzle of mine, I'm going to work with them on it. I think it's fun, like we are both learning a new way to think, together. On my other puzzles I did withhold hints until they were solved without help. And I thank you for your advice, it's good advice! For this one, I decided to give hints because it had been 2 months. Maybe that's not so long a time for you guys. I probably could have been more patient. Maybe it wasn't fair to a couple of solvers who put off finding it when it was relatively inaccessible (sorry Wild Ponies!!). All I can say is, I'm definitely not perfect and I'm just trying to improve myself in this interesting hobby. This cache has been a learning experience for me. And again, I liked the concept of the puzzle, had fun making it, and I know that it is solvable without getting a hint, so I feel satisfied with it. If I felt otherwise then I would tweak it (as I did for the other GC code that I provided in an earlier post)
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