I am not hiding behind anything. I seriously think I got hosed on the total costs of the production based on all the feedback so far. Our end cost per coin, if you ignore all our time and the website, is $5.50 per coin. And I would like to think that your time has to be worth a bit to coordinate it all, and then package them, and ship them. This is certainly not a profit making venture. And I am not trying to hide behind anything. We did this as a learning experience. It is really too bad this is turning out to be a sour discussion, that was not our intention. We were really excited about having minted our first coin and now understand we really need to research the costs a lot more for the next run if we decide to do it. This is quite dissapointing to get such negative feedback and accusations. Oh well, everyone is entitled to their opinion and with the forums, those opinions get to be made public to the world.