chuckwagon101
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Only losers double post in the forums.
Now that hurt............DEEEEEEP!!
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edited for double post
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If I were EVER to log a DNF....I would be "thinking" that the cachers that read my DNF would be "thinking"..............."LOSER!! What a LOSER!! Right in front of his eyes and he bumbles around and can't find it! What a LOSER!! What a DWEEB this guy must be! I found it in a nano second and this POOR SLOB stumbles all over the area and doesn't have a CLUE! What a .......LOSER!!"
Of course....I might be just a tad paranoid!
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You have to set guidelines for yourself, I tell ya! Think.....CRITERIA!
What is ONE THING that makes that cache worth a thousand words.....or a ..........picture for Heaven's sake?
HOLD ON! Here it comes.........
A BIG PILE OF STICKS!
If the cacher had the courtesy to stack that BIG PILE OF STICKS.....you OWE him/her/it!
I have never met a cacher that can lay out a big pile of sticks ...that I didn't like.
Will Chuckwagon Rogers
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As far as "old timers", I have been told by one that you aren't a real cacher until you have a thousand finds.
Which donkey-tail said that?
It was me and I still firmly believe that.
No! It was me.... And I STILL believe in the Big Pile Of Sticks!
This is SpartacusWagon...and I approve this message.
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I have been caching for over a year now but only have just under 40 caches found. I work two jobs, have no friends that want to cache, and do not have a lot of time to cache but I spend the majority of the free time I do have caching. If I could cache all day every day I would - but unfourtunately this is just unrealistic.
The point of my post is this - I have attended 2 events so far in my caching career and although they have been absolutely amazing, the people in charge of organizing them have so much dedication and passion for caching its incredible - but some of the attendees are SO FOCUSED on how many finds I have etc. When I tell them I have less then 40 they become quite pretencious and act as though there must be some kind of problem... I have been asked following the stats conversation if my GPS might be innacurate, or If I only cache in my own community, etc. When I respond no a common answer is " Oh thats suprising, I haven't seen your name on any cache logs..." Do people really monitor or care about others business so much as to search logs for my finds???? It hurts my feelings to think how quick to assum some people can be and really makes me not want to continue something I love because the passion for it is sort of destroyed. Maybe there are people out there that attend events and aren't cachers and are just there to ruin things? Could this be why people have adopted such negative assumptions about new cachers like myself?
My frustration and discouragement comes from a world of different perspectives (I guess.) My favorite part about caching is being shown places I never would have found on my own and being given the opportunity to explore new areas is a huge gift for me. How come others do not feel the same? Why has it become so competative? I thought it was supposed to be FUN. I am afraid that some people are losing the spirit of caching and getting caught up in the politics and stats and FTF that they are missing the most important parts (our beautiful world.) I am also dissapointed to see the amount of these kinds of people who are willing to destroy whatever enviornment needed to find the cache. With the race for FTF people (at least in my area) go to great lengths to be that first finder and will ruin anything in their path to do so. I understand the rush and feeling of accomplishment that comes with FTF but I really wish people would be more respectful of the environment - and myself.
I am mostly just looking for some support or confirmation...or reasoning behind the behaviour I have described. I feel pretty alone on this and do not want the attitudes of others destroy an activity I love. (I know it is best to ignore those who "ruin your chance of a good time" I am trying not to be affected by it but I am running a little thin at the moment..lol)
Any help or input would be greatly appreciated. Thank you to all those who make this sport possible, and thanks to all those people who are out there to have a good time.
If you live long enough....you will care less and less about what others think about you. Some people achieve this status at a young age but it took me many years. So many years wasted worrying about what others think or "might" think. Pitiful.
You have 40 caches? Man! That's a lot! I have 30. Of course most of mine are "big piles of sticks" finds! Kinda proud of that!!
Anyway, with age comes wisdom....usually.
Now, I gotta go.....there is a great big Pile Of Sticks waiting for me out there.....somewhere!
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I say let it stay. Just carry a bigger "iron bolt"!
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Anytime I get an invitation for free barbecue and beer.......caching is put on the back burner of priorities!
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I am all for signing the logbook and posting online.
Now......somebody wake me when you see that Big Pile Of Sticks!
ZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...
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I think cachers should sign the logbook and post on line.
Now.....somebody wake me when a Big Pile Of Sticks is spotted!
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!
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Does it bother you when a cacher signs a cache's paper log, but then fails to claim the find online, Traildad?
Did you not yet read my post?
http://forums.Groundspeak.com/GC/index.php...t&p=3657966
Does this not answer your question? If it does not then I will need more detail as to what you mean by bother.
Do I think they should be banned from Geocaching?
Do I think it should be condemned?
Do I think it should be condoned?
Do I spend time fretting about the problem?
Do I think it is undesireable?
Do I think it is equal to bogus logging?
What exactly do you want to know?
Not logging on line does not bother me greatly. But we have to look at what your definition of "bother" is...............is!
What bothers me is when the Big Pile Of Sticks is less than one foot high. The audacity of some cachers to put a pitiful pile of sticks over a juicy ammo box and have the total height not more than 6 or 8 inches is just.........WRONG! And don't EVEN get me started about those cachers who sneak in huge chunks of crumbly bark as a substitute for a sound, viable STICK! I get CHILLS just thinking about it!
Yes Brother, there is a lot of Bother in this world. False logs may make some cachers cringe. Omitted online posts may cause others to sweat all stinky stuff. But none of that can compare to an ill-formed Big Pile Of Sticks.
I'm Chuckwagon101 and I approve this message!
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YAWWWWNNNNNNNNNNNNN!...........Strettttttttttttttttttttttttcccchhhh!
Ho Humm......Is my Big Pile Of Sticks ready yet?
Oh well.
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All this talk about "armchair logging" has made me POWERFUL hongry for some CONTENDER status!!
If I start right now....right this minute....I might get my personal smilie count up from 31 or so to three or four HUNDRED!! Think about it!
And I could do it all before my greeter shift starts at 9:00 AM tomorrow....down to the Wal*mart store!
I'm getting all itchy and twitchy for the outcome of this thread!
I could possibly reach CONTENDER status before Christmas! or maybe Thanksgiving? or possibly even...........HALLOWEEN!
Hmmmmmmm....thousands of smilies, no pain, no WAITING, no OUTING, ...................Gotta Love It!
Count me ...........IN!!
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***It's a discussion forum, not a courtroom.***
What do you when your Branded ?
Jason McCord travels the country trying to prove he's no fake logger.
LOVE that theme song!
On topic......If I have to live under the fear of being "outed" for posting a few thousand "armchair" finds.....then I will never become a ...........CONTENDER!
It is just tooooooo HARD to find all those thousands of caches the ...uhhh.....conventional way. HEY! There are just so many hours in the day!! I gotta make a living here ya know!
Anyway, if I am going to enjoy all the benefits of THOUSANDS of cache finds under my belt....via the old armchair......I have to have assurance that some DO GOODER is not going to plaster my name all over creation, trying to diminish my ...........hard-won? cache status!!
To sum it up....I want FULL coverage of my finds and SMILIES but I want complete anonymity when it comes to HOW I got em!
Sighhhhhhhh....the road to being a CONTENDER is fraught with pitfalls!!
Peace Out Brother!
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What in the sam hill does half of this have to do with the topic.
Little-to-nuttin', Zoggy. It's not even a topic anymore - it's a pool.
A grand competition to be Final track.
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Not only off-topic, but this post seems a bit UNfamily-friendly IMHO...does such language really need to be here? I don't mind much, but on occasion, my 10 yr old niece tends to look over my shoulder when I'm on the computer, and she CAN read quite well. I'd rather NOT have to explain some of these comments to her!
Yeah, I agree! I don't want my 28 year old grandson seeing that "sam hill" phrase at ALL!
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[ Didnt mean EVERYONE in that sense.... meant everyone as in "people of all ages"......sorry..... should have been more specific!
It all depends on what your meaning of "is"...........is!!
And let's not forget "condone"!
My name is Chuckwagon and I "condone" this message!" (I wonder what THAT means!!) LOL! I crack myself up! LOL!
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[*]bogus logs do not provide accurate information about the cache
[*]bogus logs are not the intended use of online logs which is to share your experience looking for the cache (and possibly to thank the cache owner)
These people have stated that a cache owner who wishes that the logs on their cache are truthful or that logs on their cache describe finders' actual experiences should delete the bogus logs. Then they state that if another cache owner does not delete bogus logs they are not harmed by them. You seem to wish to attack people who take this approach as being inconsistent. I don't see any inconsistency here. One does not have to view a bogus log a harmful to say cache owners should delete them.
As to the validity of considering bogus logs harmless, I doubt any argument will convince you. If bogus logs are evil they must be causing some harm - even if only consternation over the fact that some people are doing something evil. Examples of bogus logs that actually cause someone to waste their time or gas are hypothetical. If one is looking for problem to prove that bogus logging is evil, it is easy enough to make up situations where this could happen. Aside from briansnats' friend, whose story I tend to doubt, there are no real examples so perhaps there isn't a real problem or at least it isn't very serious. I've pointed out that not logging your DNF may actually cause more people to waste gas and time looking for a missing cache than bogus finds do. Yet not logging a DNF isn't seen as evil so we can ignore that problem. For several reasons, the number of bogus logs will remain a tiny fraction of the logs on caches. One is that bogus loggers either get bored quickly or they get banned. Cachers can look at the totality of the logs on a cache and not just the one bogus log and if they can't figure out the log is bogus, they can at least mitigate its effects by considering the other logs. There is no reason to worry excessively about going caching because of the few bogus logs out there.
Great post!
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Any cache that I cannot find in 15 minutes or less is an unacceptable cache hide.
FIFTEEN MINUTES??!!!!!!!!
That's long enough for SQUATTER'S RIGHTS!!!
A cursory glance is all I need to spot the Big Pile Of Sticks.........or not!!
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Here is an example of how these threads always go, taken from a real-likfe experience I have had caching. The dialog here is completely fictional. Anyt resemblance to persons living or dead is entirely coincidental.
Cacher: I had a frustrating experience this week. I went out to seek a cache, and while I was looking I discovered that within 10 feet of the cache somebody had used the area as a toilet. I told the owner but he wouldn't archive or move the cache. I think it's not acceptable. Caches with poop nearby are disgusting and lame.
Troll 1: Who are you to say what is lame? Some people like seeking caches with poop nearby. Why are you trying to enforce your narrow view of what is "good" on everybody else?
C: I can't believe that anybody thinks human feces near a cache is acceptable. It's a health hazard.
Troll 2: Some people think McDonald's is a health hazard. Lucky for us they haven't gotten McDonald's banned yet. You assume that you are the sole arbiter of what is and isn't a health hazard.
Troll 3: Nobody forced you to seek this cache. If you don't like it, just don't seek it.
C: But how was I supposed to know that this cache had human feces right next to it?
T3: The site has plenty of ways for you to filter out caches you don't like. Why are you trying to ban caches near poop for everyone just because you don't like them?
C: But it's human feces! What am I supposed to do, look through all the logs on every cache to be sure nobody mentions poop near the cache? I'm not trying to tell everyody how to play, I just want to not have to dig through unsanitary trash or poop to find a cache.
T1: I just can't understand why you are so upset. Why can't you just let it go and ignore this cache and let everyone play the game the way they want to?
T2: Your argument makes no sense. First you say that caches with poo nearby are unacceptable, and then you backtrack and say you're not trying to enforce your preferences on everyone. You're just being dishonest.
C: I am upset because I ran into something disgusting at a cache and now I am being attacked because I didn't like it.
T2: Nobody is attacking you. I'm just commenting on what you said. And what you said is that you want to have poopy caches banned for everyone, just because you don't like them.
T3: You have a choice about what to get upset over. If you can't handle poo near caches, then don't hunt them. If you can't handle honest responses to your comments here in the forum, then you must not be very smart.
C: Why are you guys defending caches with human feces near them?
T2: I never defended poopy caches. Show me one place where I said I thought poopy caches were good!
T3: What do you have against embracing tolerance and diversity among other people's caching preferences?
C: But...
T2: I never said that. Show me one place in my posts where I used the word "but." We are talking about poop here, not buts. Don't try to change the subject from your attempts to make everyone else play the game your way or not at all.
C: But you implied that poopy caches are a good thing...
T2: I never implied anything of the sort. My posts were completely clear and you chose to misunderstand them. Come on, you're dodging my questions. Come up with one place I said poopy caches were good.
T1: You're avoiding the question. Why do you think that everyone should have to honor your version of what is "lame" and what is not?
C: I give up.
T2: Typical. You can't defend your argument, so you just leave.
LOL! I don't care what anyone says.....THAT right there is funny! LOL!
GREAT post Fizzy! I could just "see" and "hear" trolls number one, two and three.
The poor boob poster that was trying to get some support and maybe a TINY bit of understanding.........I could visualize him getting more frustrated by the minute!
You really know how to put together a funny parody!
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I have an ongoing problem with a group of young muggles that can't seen to grasp the basic concepts of geocaching.It all began when I placced my first cache Tree Dweller,it had not been in place for very long when I saw this group of muggles picking it up and throwing it into the nearby bushes.I went over hurridly to retrive it and tried to explain to them what it was,they replied by saying"yeah it's ours cos we put our car in it" I did not think it was best to reveal that it was my cache to avoid further problems.
After explaining this encounter to their aunt she laughed as well with me being so young.Several days later during a maintinance trip it simply was not in it's hiding place,this situation was made all the more worse by the fact that at the time the cache contained an active travelbug.We promptly disabled the cache and informed the owner of the travel bug.After an extensive search the cache was recovered recklessly thrown into a hedge,thankfully with all it's contnts.It was then moved to another tree a short distance away,we thought the troubles were over but they were not.The next day I was walking near the cache site when I met one of the young muggles again,he turned to me and said " 'ere you remember that box what we found?,well it's gone" I casually said to them that someone must have moved it.It was settlexd for a while in ait's new spot until today.The tree which had become the cache's new home has been used by the muggles to build a den,to their glee they have also recovered their precious 'box thing'.A few minuites before writing this I entered this den and stole it back with stealth,I am writing this looking at the cache which has now been disabled again,hoping to replace it soon.
So what I want to know is,does anybody else have an ongoing war with a certain muggle?are you trapped in an evergrowing circle of lies to keep your cache safe? if so let us know
Doctor/Patient Scenario********
Patient....."Doc, my bush keeps hurting when I hit it with this muggle box! Each morning I hit my bush in almost the same place with my muggle box and it HURTS! What in the world can I do??"
Doctor......"Stop hitting your bush with your muggle box! That will be 275.00"
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Uhhhhhhhh....if I don't see a Big Pile Of Sticks.....from my truck WINDOW????..... I'm OUTTA there!
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I can beat that.
I had a cache disappear completely. It was like it was beamed out of there leaving absolutely no trace.
Spooky.
That is the scariest thing I have ever heard of! Did...did...did you notice if the BIG PILE OF STICKS was disturbed also?
Well, that does it! No sleep for me tonight!
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A local church had an ice cream social. At the event, there were several different kinds of ice cream, as well as some frozen yogurt. All went well until one visitor complained that frozen yogurt is not ice cream. The pastor tried to calm the angst level by advising the disatisfied visitor that there is no reason to be upset because, after all teh visitor could simply eat the ice cream instead. The presence of a gallon or two of frozen yogurt doesn't make the variety of ice creams less yummy. Plus, it's not like the person paid to come to the church's ice cream social.
It's imperfect, but I'm still working on it.
Was this a Southern Baptist Church or a Northern Baptist Church?
The Northern Baptist Church says...."There ain't no HELL!"
The Southern Baptist Church says...."The HELL there ain't!"
But both congregations are crazy about most Ice Cream. Except spumoni Ice Cream. Only Northern Baptist members can slurp their way through all those grapes and raisins and .......whatever!
I STILL don't know if it's ok for me to "armchair" a bunch of FTF and other caches so that I can become a ..............CONTENDER!
(if it comes out that nobody is going to get upset.......IT'S A DONE DEAL!!!!!!! HeeeeeeeeeeYiiiiiiiiiiiiii!) -
THAT does it!
240 posts and not an ice cream analogy in the WHOLE BUNCH! Now....is that pitiful or WHAT???!!
I've been trying to come up with a ice cream analogy but it's tough. Here's an attempt that may or may not work.
The local ice cream parlor - Betsy Sue's Ice Cream - decided that health conscious consumers wanted something healthier than ice cream. So she started selling low fat frozen yogurt in addition to ice cream. People were happy until one day one of Betsy Sue's employees - Jimmy Bob - gave someone a scoop of frozen yogurt but told the customer that it was ice cream. The customer walked away happy because they couldn't tell that they had gotten yogurt instead of ice cream. But the city consumer protection bureau suspected that Besty Sue was selling bogus ice cream. The made a big stink about it and threaten to shut down Besty Sue's Ice Cream. Besty Sue protested. "The customer was happy when they left. It really didn't matter to them that they got frozen yogurt instead of ice cream. But I agree that we should be honest and Jimmy Bob has been fired." Then the same thing happened at Sally Mae's ice cream. But Sally Mae didn't fire her employee. "Billy Ray was just funnin' with the customer and there warn't no harm done." When asked, Betsy Sue said that it was up to Sally Mae whether to fire her employee but that she agreed that no one is harmed by eating frozen yogurt instead of ice cream. The man from the city consumer protection bureau say he didn't understand how Betsy Sue could condone lying about ice cream even though she had previously said you should be honest.
MAGNIFICO!! I knew someone could do it! I could almost TASTE that yogurt, nestled in the huge WAFFLE cone! It WAS a waffle cone I hope??? I mean, I TASTED a waffle cone. I can't stand those cheap, EAT-IT-ALL Cake cones! They give me .....GAS!
Thanks Toz!
Single-use Camera - Put one in cache?
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I suppose it would be ok to take a pic if someone was with you to get a little distance between you and the camera....but a pic at arms length will cause even the tiniest nose to develope into a bulbous monstrosity that would scare the cache owner out of their wits! And don't even talk about profiles done single handed! Who wants a closeup of a big blob of earwax, in focus or not!
