GrandPotentate

What?!? Really? You expect a reviewer to know how you are going to react to the way they play the game? Really? I'm just floored by this thought process. I really can't imagine how I can make this clearer since it's really such a simple concept, but my point is that I would think the reviewer would be concerned about any possible reaction to his behavior, not about what any individual, including me, actually does think. You know how promotional contests always say, "Contest not open to employees of company X or their families"? That's not because they actually expect employees to cheat, it's because they don't want it to be possible for an employee to win because their customers might think they cheated. A perfect example of a reasonable FTF find by a reviewer. The OP was talking about FTFs where the reviewer participated in and won the FTF dash. I have no idea what that means, but it makes me think you should consider the possibility that you have absolutely no idea what I'm saying. First off, only YOU can control your own thoughts, actions, and expectations. When you are referring to what OTHER players are thinking, we should really assume that you are talking about yourself. If you are actually referring to someone else then I go back to my first statement and ask why are you worried about how other players are reacting, you can only control your own thought, actions, and expectations. Secondly, I already provided you a link to the definition of butthurt, but here you go: Now lets look at this situation from the outside: You are expecting the reviewer, who is choosing play the game the way he/she enjoys it, to change their actions because someone might hypothetically think they have an unfair advantage because their notification doesn't have to travel through all of the internets before reaching them. I would have to say that publicly accusing someone of cheating in a public forum is an overtly hostile act and is due to a perceived personal personal insult from a person who feels shame for not receiving the most high and glorious honors of FTF and all of the eternal bragging rights. Personally, I would be completely comfortable accepting Cheech Honors (STF) behind any of the reviewers in my area.

One of the reviewers in my area managed to get an FTF after driving almost completely across the state on business and just happened to be driving by the cache, I don't think anyone even suspected foul play, only thought that it was really cool that he was able to do that. What?!? Really? You expect a reviewer to know how you are going to react to the way they play the game? Really? I'm just floored by this thought process. Sounds like someone needs some Extra Strength ButtHurt Cream.

A lot of us would consider this on a similar level as leaving Holy Water or Sacraments in a cache.

You'd be better off pay $15 and send it UPS. It'd get there faster and would have insurance.

Sounds like Groundspeak already took care of it. That is what a profile usually looks like once it's been locked.

Will pictures of me throwing a pill bottle out the car window at 60 MPH count? Works for me. Everyone get ready for a new power trail along the Ohio Turnpike.

from the official rules of challenge caches: "A challenge geocache needs to appeal to, and be attainable by, a reasonable number of geocachers. A challenge geocache may not specifically exclude any segment of geocachers. If a geocacher is required to alter their caching style or habits, such as avoiding a particular geocache type to attain a specific percentage or average, the geocache will not be published."

Will pictures of me throwing a pill bottle out the car window at 60 MPH count?

On the surface, maybe. Could this be a cultural issue? If the OP's girlfriend's religious beliefs forbid her from having a photo taken of herself that could be considered "exposing" herself.

I feel that PMO caches can be very elitist. I understand the thought process behind them and some of the reasons CO make them PMO. I just disagree with those reasons and see no problem with basic members logging them when they are found, either by accident or in a group with a PM. I don't know of any CO that would dispute someone logging a find on a puzzle cache that they stumbled across. And from my understand of the Guidlines, Help Center, and Knowledge Books, as long as there is ink on paper, the cache is found, doesn't matter what the search process looked like.

What about my friend, M0M0f5? Should she buy premium memberships for PunkinHead96, Shemademedoit, J0nnyr0tten, b gethan, and squeedink just to be able to log their finds too?

this explains it http://forums.Groundspeak.com/GC/index.php?showtopic=315022&view=findpost&p=5293030

use http://www.geocachingadmin.com/

You can promote your business, just get creative. Place a cache in front of the business and put some coupons in the cache or create some signature swag and include a coupon with it. Just make sure they are worth something, I've found coupons for free admission to the local drive-in, free side with sandwich, free car washes. But I will say that I get annoyed when I find business cards as swag, especially when it's a folded up card in a pill bottle, that usually gets CITO'ed.

Are you exaggerating a little with your times? Because my phone locks on with in 5 seconds and GPS location stabilizes within another 30 seconds.

A better question: Will those folks who are so self despising that they must apply negative labels to those they disagree with accept these? even better question: Why do you care if a group of people are going to accept them?

Yes, just like it says in the blog post! Is there any chance they will be made available for regular events in the future? They could be great for poker runs or 101's

That's almost as bad as caches that require a special GPSr (Wherigo, chirp)

Forgot one 9) Use the Field Notes feature and upload all of your logs when you get home

1) Get a car charger - $15 2) Get a portable charger - $20 3) Use the Open Source off-line map - FREE 4) Get a premium membership so that you can use pocket queries and don't have to use the Live Map feature - $30/year 5) Put your phone in airplane mode - FREE 6) Don't solve any puzzles in the field unless you absolutely have to (most field puzzles don't require a lot of internet research - FREE 7) Take your ear buds out and enjoy nature's music - FREE 8) Cache with a friend and you can take turns who is navigating - FREE

Scouts do NOT have to place a geocache to get a BSA Geocache Merit badge. It's one of several options. But since the BSA are trying to teach the boys valuable life lessons, if they choose to place a cache to earn the badge, then they need to understand that they are responsible to maintaining the cache. It would be like if they chose to get a cow to earn their Animal Science badge and then decided they weren't going to clean up after it anymore now that they have their badge.

I use the Google Maps Labs as well and you are able to use that format of coordinates when placing a cache, you can also change the format style when updating coordinates on an existing page. If you really want DD MM.MMM, I use http://boulter.com/gps/ to do the conversions, you are able to copy and paste directly from the Google Map.

How EXACTLY do you propose to make this work "legally"? I am not saying there isn't a way, but probably NOT the way you are likely to suggest. I am very curious if you understand the physical placement guideline and the question to answer guideline the same way I do. I understand the "1.8 Saturation guideline" that the distance rule only applies to physical containers (if for a stage or a final location). A physical box for cache #1 at the same location where cache #2 has just a question to answer would be conform to the guidelines (which I meant by "legal"). This would make sense, because it's unlikely to confuse a QTA with a box...(and I understand a possible confusion may be the main reason for the distance rule). So for having it listed despite the initial distance conflict, I suggest to make the given coordinate a QTA or a Mystery coordinate and relocate the physical box to somewhere else where the (physical) distance rule doesn't hinder it. Am I wrong in my understanding here? Please don't hesitate to correct me. As long as the QTA is about something that was already at the waypoint. The proximity rule applies to anything (in a container or just a tag on a tree) the CO places at those coordinates, about the only physically place thing that I know of that does not fall under the proximity rule are "fire tacks" used in night caches.

No where in the guidelines does it say that the cache must be family friendly, only that the swag should be family friendly. But I absolutely agree that caches disguised as electrical elements should be avoided at all costs, I realize that it is a quick and easy was to make a cache that is camouflaged in plain sight, but it just encourages seekers to try to disassemble real electrical elements in the future. I destroyed a couple of real sprinkler heads in my early caching days because I found a cache early on that was hidden in a fake sprinkler head. As a cache owner, I would not create a similar hide.

I guess this will be an expensive lesson to learn. And for future knowledge for your friend, if they want a cache to be published in conjunction with a book being published, they can request that the reviewer wait to publish the cache until a specified date, that way your friend can work on getting the cache taken care of well before a deadline associated with their book.