MountainWoods

I agree with Blasterz. This is great.

Before would be okay with me. But by the way, after I typed my last response, it occurred to me that the main thing I was looking for is for all of us to meet up at the same time, and that the place does not really matter. We could meet at your event table, as long as we all shoot for a specific time, like noon. At that point, we could all kinda figure out which way to go from there to sit down and talk. Might even be in a break room at the event or something. Again, just some ideas. A dinner would be nice, but if it's a pain, we just shoot for the "meet at the table at time X" thing. Is there a cost associated with going to the existing event where your table is? If so, being Scottish, I would like to avoid paying a fee just to get all of us together at the same time; if possible. (We could just go with the restaurant meet thing and get something for our bucks.) If the event is free, we could meet at the table and go from there.

Okay. I wasn't suggesting that we abandon the table at the already-established-event, but probably supplement it with something where we can meet at a specific time -- so we can all meet each other, rather than there being per-chance meetings at the table. The table allows those staffing it to meet other waymarkers, but it is not conducive to we non-table-staffing waymarkers to meet each other. And I'll tell you now, I am a tea totaler and will not do the bar scene. Period. That's why I suggested a restaurant or something else. It's just something to consider so that we can all get to meet each other, rather than just the onesy-twosy meeting at the table. Perhaps we could even get a group photo. Just some ideas.

Does this have to be tied to some geocaching event or something? Why not we say that on such and so day we all meet at such and so huge restaurant for lunch, and then we can informally hang out and visit the local waymarks or something? No need for event tables or any other such thing. I don't care if I can't log the greet as a waymark or a geocache. The idea is to get to meet other Waymarking folks. This is in Denton, TX still, right? I'm trying to keep the calendar open for it.

I agree. But I still don't understand why Groundspeak doesn't consider the Waymark site a money maker, since many of us, such as myself, pay a premium membership to do Waymarking almost exclusively. Why should my money go to a hobby that I'm not really interested in? Yes, I know, the Soggy Paper Game folks could say the same thing, but their premium membership is not going to a hobby that they're not interested in! Groundspeak should allow folks to specify a designation on their premium memberships!

Are you sure you aren't warping back and forth through time or something? Perhaps we can start a new category: Space Or Time Warp Locations

Groundspeak is in Pacific Standard Time, and the Waymarking and Geocaching (etc.) databases use Pacific Time. Edit: Why does the day matter? A good waymark is a good waymark.

It's a long way for us, but we're still seriously considering this to meet other Waymarkers. Hope you can make it so that we have a place for all of us Waymarkers to get together for an hour or so. Thanks!

Or in C: strcmp("Snowdog","The Snowdog") != 0

The BIG problem with the chilehead web app is that it will NOT keep you logged in. And I don't mean across usages. I mean within a single usage/session of the app. You log in, and then do anything that requires a login, and it tells you that you need to log in! I would be using it all the time if it weren't for the "not really logged in" issue. If that could be fixed, I think we'd be there as good as we can get.

It looks like Culture -> Yard Art Silhouettes is set as a category "group" or "folder" or "directory" or whatever you want to call it -- not a "leaf" category that can be posted into, just as Animals or Buildings -> Architectural are not leaves. The description says that you must first select a subcategory, of which there are none; so it is a dead end. Whether this was intentional (someone was planning to make subcategories, such as Animals, Cowboys/girls, Gardening Posteriors?) or accidental, one cannot tell by just looking at it. Depending on how it's implemented, it could be a simple "flag" in the category that could be switched to indicate that it is a leaf category that can be posted into, or if not a flag or something simple, it would have to be tossed out and re-created in the database as such. Interesting mystery.

Nice. Thanks!

Congratulations. Keep the good quality coming in. It's a wonder that I have anything left to waymark around here with YoSam and the late GEO*Trailblazer 1 having gotten here first! But I'm always glad to see Yo's submissions. Especially since he seems to range over a wider are of Missouri than I generally do. Fun!

Great job. Keep that quality a-rollin' in.

Maps seem to be problematic. I thought when I upgraded from XP to (lousy) Windows 10 on a new computer and using a new IE that it would show the map at the upper right of each Waymark. It works about 40% of the time, instead of 10% of the time. Wow! Can't blame the versions of the OS or browser this time. The map interface (for whoever's fault) still does not work most of the time. It's only slightly annoying when I'm making Waymarks, because I'd like to make sure I didn't goof typing in the coordinates. But it's much more annoying when reviewing other folks' waymarks, because I want to do the same for them: make sure they got the right coordinates. (We all make mistakes.) But I end up having to bring up Google Earth and copy/paste the coordinates many times because the map area just remains blank. Even through a Refresh of the page. Oh well.

To make it obvious that a waymark object is no longer there, without having to read the Long Description, change the Title to include the word MISSING. Some of us put it at the end, whilst others put it at the beginning: Some Cool Thing - Mytown, MO USA - MISSING MISSING - Some Cool Thing - Mytown, MO USA I prefer the former, but I know of some folks who prefer the latter. You may also want to change the Long Description to elaborate. This keeps the information for historical purposes -- as some have said, the waymark may be the only documentation on Some Cool Thing that went missing. But it also serves to quickly notify anyone doing searches, etcetera, that the object has gone missing. The same thing can be done for other not-so-cool circumstances: Some Cool Thing - Mytown, MO USA - TEMPORARILY DISABLED

Oh well. Turns out that someone had beat me to it, so I got a visit. Actually logged a slew of visits on Oahu. Thanks.

There's a lot of art-related categories that I've never tried -- mainly because I'm pretty strong left brained, though I do compose music from time to time. Is there a category into which I could submit a statue of King Kamehameha? Or does it even warrant a Waymark? [I am in agreement that not everything has to be Waymarked. ]

It'll be Mayan, not youran.

Welll, they're a bit too mobile. 99% of the ones I've seen have wheels and a trailer hitch. Here today, and (hopefully!) gone tomorrow.

Actually, this discussion would be better in the Recruiting and Category Proposal forum. But yes, they are definitely becoming too prevalent. Since the ability to display a lot more colors with LED lights (than the original couple of colors) have caused a renaissance of devices using them, their cost has gone down, and their prevalence has skyrocketed. All of those old slide-the-letters-into-their-row-and-then-watch-the-wind-make-your-wording-into-humorous-and-sometimes-vulgar-sayings sign boards are going the way of the hand cranked automobile/truck/tractor. I know of several places around here that are trying to sell the old junkers and not having any luck. Anyone who wants a new sign will spend almost the same amount, or a little more, for a LED dot-matrix sign that can do waaaaay more than just letters, and takes much less electrical energy to light it. And, although not impossible, it is very less likely that the sign will tell you to go to blazes when the intended wording was "Go To Shell".

Oh boy, did I think of an answer to this. But I'll leave it unposted....

We agree on Waymarking as a source to store and share interesting locations. For me, though, it is more of a documentation site than a mere game. My thinking is that the serious traveler might want to use Waymarking to search for interesting things in a location they'll be visiting or passing through; just as I use an old Readers' Digest book to do the same thing. That being the case, I lean a bit more on the let's-get-this-right side. As to copy/paste, I have always discouraged that -- even where I worked (before retirement), simply because the source site for the information may be updated in the future, but the copy/paste obviously will not be. Example: Someone updates a Wikipedia article to fix misinformation (another user contributed site!); but tough luck on anyone who copy/pasted from that article! There's one category where I would like to just put in a link to the source site, even though I know it will require that the reader will have to click a link to a different site to get more information (wow, what labor!), but the category officers do not agree, and would rather have potentially stale information pasted into the Waymark. I just have to agree to disagree with them; knowing that the resulting category of Waymarks will lose quality over the years because of their decision. Keeping existing waymarks current is a consideration. I have gone back to a bunch of my waymarks and fixed them when things changed. I had to "UNABANDON" a cemetery because some local group noticed that it was totally uncared for (maybe because of my waymark??) and started regular maintenance. (Good and bad on that! Good for the cemetery, bad for the waymark.) I also don't hesitate to make Edit Suggestions from my Waymark visits (yes, I do visit many waymarks not my own) when required by subsequent changes to the object of the waymark. I always try to think of Waymarking as a document/list type of thing that can be used by the aforementioned serious traveler, meaning that it should only contain what is needed to whet the interest of the waymarker, including links to better sources (kept current) on the waymarked object, rather than copy/paste potentially stale information. Anyway, that's my thinking. Since it is considered a game, I'm sure that there'll be a widespread set of opinions on both copy/paste and quality/"pickiness". Now back to What Category For This?

We're talking quality, not price. Many sites have free contributions, such as FindAGrave. You can put in "cheap" (low quality) information into such sites, just as in Waymarking. Unfortunately, I found several instances where someone came back from a day of walking cemeteries and put the information for a grave in the wrong cemetery. That cheapens FindAGrave.

Officers are generally strict because they want quality Waymarks that meet the requirements. To some of us, this is more than just a game, like Scrabble. It's also a good way to document things that are worth documenting. Once you start letting anything into a category -- just so that folks won't say that the officers are so strict -- you've just cheapened the activity/sport/hobby/game/recreation of Waymarking. If that isn't easy to understand, you may be in the wrong hobby...