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Paragraphs Paragraphs indeed! You are absolutly correct. I looked at what I had written and what you had written, you communicated more effectivly with one word than I did with an entire page.Plus it is pretty funny so you have me lmao at myself. Maybe I should have focused a little harder in class but god I found all that stuff so boring.

I am the one who opened this topic.. and I was going to say no more about it.. as so many people seem to think it is just fine. More needs said however. I will agree that most electrical cabinets are safe when you touch them and yes it is rare for them to have a short. Do not doubt it will deliver an instant hello to Saint Peter if it does.I did not see any photos of electrical cabinets being sold as Geocache containers. I saw junction boxes with conduit attached (being shown up against a house) it looked very real to me. These are being sold as Geocache containers.They also showed swithplates and wall boxes. They looked pretty real.. and any child seeing an adult open one of these.. is going to think it is ok to try to open other ones. No children are supervised constantly and it may be later in there own back yard or at school or any number of other places that they may see another box and think it is ok to try and open it. There are millions of these junction boxes in back yards especialy around swimming pool pumps, older AC units, (and no folks they are not super safe,) the only thing between you and voltage that can kill you is that little plate on the front. About 1/8 inch to 1/4 inch behind that plate are connections carrying live power, a child would not know the differance and from what I am hearing a lot of others wouldn't either.I have found many junction boxes thru the years with lose covers, missing screws,etc. and it would be no problem for a child with out tools to get one to open on up.Engineers cannot idiot proof every thing and it is wise to leave eletrical fixtures alone. That is just common sense. I do not live in fear of shark attacks/lightning strikes/rouge electrical cabinets etc. I spent years in the military have jumped from airplanes, have been to dangerous places,have fought remote forest fires for the US Forest Service,I fly small airplanes, I was a line man for a few years as a younger fellow,I also have been an all around handy man and have upgraded lots of old fuse boxes to modern breaker boxes,and have done lots of home electrical repairs,I am a good mechanic,I can operate pretty much all heavy equipment,and I have been certified in all 50 states as a motorcycle instructor, I also have spent many many weeks alone in the woods. I know a little something about risk awareness and risk assesment and risk reduction. You adults can play with electrical equipment all you want if you get zapped you get zapped. Keep the children away from it until they can make their own choice. Do not set them up for failure by your own disregard of the risk. Good day.

Hi Folks... I have gone back and looked over the discussions from the past on this subject,and it seems it has been going on for a while. It also seems a lot of people feel fine with it. I find that unbelievable, but you each certainly have a right to your opinion.I think it is the equivalent of hiding a cache in a mine field.... but there is a great many who feel it is no risk at all... so carry on. I will say no more about it. Have fun be safe!!!!!

Hi everybody... I am new to this game but I must say I was STUNNED a few days back while looking at differant Geocache containers for sale. I could not beleive my eyes when I saw fake electrical switches/boxes/electrical plates etc. being marketed as Geocache containers. This is absolutly insane!! I have not personaly seen a Geocache like this but I am brand new to this game.I did send my concern to Groundspeak.. who recommend I bring it here. No one should be hiding a Geocache any were near electrical equipment and most assuradly there should never be a hide disguised as an electrical component!! PERIOD!!!! This is a death sentence for somebody and most likely an innocent child who will see this and think it is ok to go poking around electrical equipment looking for a hiding place.If this is going on it needs to stop IMMEDIATLY.... it is not worth killing someone to create a clever hide. It should also be considered negligent homicide if someone is killed while searching for a hide that is placed around electrical equipment. Electricity is invisible and an outside box that is sealed could still have a short and could kill any one touching it thinking it might be a Geocache hide. It simply is not worth it folks there are to many other ways to place a hide. I saw these things for sale so I know they are out there, the entire Geocaching community should make these TABOO never to be used or even considered. I would really like to know how others feel about this. I think it is absolutly wreckless and dangerous.

Thank you!!!!! I now have them in my GPS and am going Geocaching!!! I was really becoming frustrated. My computer was already set up to read the zipped file... I am not real techno savvy so was a little lost. It is a Dell with i5 640 hard drive 4g memory and is only 5 months old. You were right once I knew what I was doing I had the info in the GPS in about 3 seconds. Thanks again!!

Hello... I am new to this and am now climbing the walls... the fun is going out of this very fast. Found out about Geocaching joined made a couple finds, thought this is cool let me become a premium member and really have some fun. Purchased a new Garmin GPSmap62s with the idea I could plug it into my computer down load data and go Geocaching... YEA RIGHT. First I went to Garmin and down loaded there communicater...that linked me to ( free Geocacheing instead of Geocaching.com the group I need to download from)I finaly figured out this is not gonna get me what I need. I went to Geocaching.com and set up a pocket query (as best I knew how)thinking that once I received it I could plug in the USB and send it to the GPS... YEA RIGHT. Recieved the pocket query in my e-mail only to find I need another application to unzip it. Went to the site to download the application to unzip it and found that is not free and will cost more cash. So still cannot even look at it to see what it contains much less send it to my GPS.I then thought hey... maybe there is another application that can fix this.... YEA RIGHT. I went back to Geocaching.com and down loaded EasyGps it downloaded fine but does nothing to help see the pocket query much less send it to my GPS. I love my new Garmin GPSmap 62s and will use it for many other applications. However I have found that one must be a software engineer and or computer programmer to try and use most features at the Geocache.com site that are set up to communicate any information to a GPS. I am rapidly losing any interest in being a Geocacher at all. It should be a one or two click operation to send data to a GPS from the Geocaching.com website................ Can any one give me a fast schooling in what I need to do? Before I throw my new GPS and my computer over the hill!!!