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wandillup wanderer

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  1. A minimum number of finds before hiding your own has merit though I think that 500 finds is probably a bit high ,not because I have myself not reached that number but because from my experience you know a good cache after around 100 particularly if you have finds in different states or countries. I have around 20 caches in my local area(country Western Australia) which have seen a steady decline in finds over time with the first hide in 2013. Since the first hide it has become apparent that easily accessible caches .ie on the highway or close to town, get found the most which shows cachers are time poor and seek quick finds.I have no real problem with this unless caches are only just above street rubbish. It has become apparent to me that geocaching is stagnating to some degree hence Groundspeak initiating this thread about cache quality which is at the heart of a good caching experience whether you are just starting or a veteran cacher.I, mean it would quickly lose its appeal if you were continually extracting soggy log sheets from poorly thought out locations or containers. Power trails are also questionable.All they do is contribute to a quantity over quality mentality usually with no relativity or meaning to where they are placed. I do agree with some comments that reviewers give CO,s too much latitude with maintaining caches that are clearly in need of help,maybe this is because of Groundspeak guidelines. There are a few factors that affect a cachers experience,namely 1.accurate coords. 2.informative cache page description 3.good location 4.appropriate container. I believe these are the most important cache attributes that will lead me to the cache In short cache quality needs to improve to continue to attract new cachers or the pursuit may continue to decline
  2. I,m with you all the way Crow-T-Robot,quality over quantity anyday. Its true that the way of geocaching has leant towards quick easy finds that don,t require much effort and it doesn’t,t seem to matter what the container is or if it has any regional significance or particular attractiveness. i have several hides in the town where I live and the most finds are close to town. And as you say multi and puzzle caches are not the preferred cache of choice for today’s time poor cacher, which is a shame because i think that hiders of these cache types put more thought into the cache container and want seekers to have a better caching experience than a simple mint tin or lock and lock container. though as you rightly point out the best found it logs are from cachers who have made the walk or have taken the time to solve the puzzle and posted their experience as a fun time and recommend to other cachers. Sadly I think attraction to geocaching seems to be diminishing as most of my new hides are found by repeat cachers and that there seem to be lot of cachers that find a few and then lose interest.
  3. Yes in that situation if it was so obvious that the camo was compromised then a NM is appropriate but it would accompany a found it log. Its the logs that use a NM as an excuse to not be able to find it that annoy
  4. Geez this shouldn’t be that confusing,I would have thought that you shouldn’t log a “ needs maintenance “ without out seeing a cache that required it. That covers wet logs,full logs,open containers,broken or missing camo and the like all of which has nothing to to with a cachers inability to find it.The NM log should not be used by cachers as a reason why they didn’t find it. I have no issue with posting a Dnf if i can’t locate the cache but will certainly not follow that up with a NM as some form of justification for not finding it.
  5. I always read the cache description too because I think it gives a reason for the cache being there and often provides information of other attractions or activities in the area.The cache is afterall a small reward for being taken to a special or significant site. Unfortunately while I think that easy caches are becoming more popular I will continue to try and hide caches of distinct difference that suit their envronment and raise the creativity bar a little so the caching experience will be memorable for experienced and new cachers alike.
  6. Thanks for the info. Sometimes it's useful to read the history of past caches to find the reason it was archived and to get a sense of why the cache hadn't survived. The logs give an insight into the ease/difficulty of how it was found or not. Anyhow I don't have the GC No or owner name so it may be almost cause.
  7. can anyone point me in the right direction of how to search for archived caches on the geocaching.com page. They seem to disappear from the map and no apparent search link is available to look for them. I am just curious as to what happened to some I had a notion look for. Thanks
  8. I recently placed a cache(GC6CG9D) and activated a travel bug to start its journey. I posted a note on the cache page and on the travel bugs page yet it doesn't,t appear in the caches inventory. Can anyone shed some light on the process
  9. I,m with you there Auld Pharrt some good points that you raise about caching. In particular that age is no issue and the fact it gets you out and about are good enough reasons alone to embrace geocaching. For me it's going to places that I wouldn't normally get to and the process of working out how that is achieved gives great satisfaction
  10. Given that GPS coordinates are the fundamental requirements to the game it is imperative that they are as accurate as possible. I use a phone and Garmin 650T at the same time when determining correct coords for hiding caches. I read in some guidlines that when setting coords approaching GZ from differing angles helps to average out readings,this can also help if there is tree or building cover. Having inaccurate coords is frustrating for cachers and can result in people looking about areas that may not be appropriate.
  11. While it is not mandatory to log cache finds online they do serve an important function. when caching i often refer to previous logs if i am having trouble finding a cache as people often describe their caching experience in detail which can assist cachers to come up with the booty. Also as a cache owner online logging by finders is an imprtant tool in cache maintenance and health. They can show if the difficulty and terrain ratings are appropriate and if the published coords. are accurate and highlight any dangers or risks associated with the cache. But as previous post have shown geocaching can be a lone or group activity and given that there are over 6 million cachers worldwide differing opinions on how to play the game are inevitable. As long as finders maintain the two fundamental principles of signing the log and replacing the cache as found the integrity of the game should prevail.
  12. What also irks me is that I can't seem to get my head around the multi quote reply process?
  13. I just don't like the concept of power trails in general because for me they don't have any great point of interest or benefit other than adding to a cachers find count rapidly.I prefer caches that have some element of attraction or interesting location which adds another dimension to the caching experience,after all is usually just a plastic container that awaits the finder. I can't see how identical cache containers loosely hidden at 160m intervals contributes anything unique nor encourages people to explore an area that may have other qualities worth looking at. It's very name implies that you find one and move onto the next quickly.
  14. I have also seen some pretty absurd "themes" for a large series of caches where the theme only exists in the naming of the caches and has nothing to do with the location or type of containers used. As I see it, the theme is just an excuse to put out a lot of caches to increase the find count for others. There's a small PT in California with 80 or so caches with titles related to duct tape. I think this might be the most picayune complaint about caches I've seen yet. Seriously? You don't like the caches because they didn't pick a theme based on some trivial criteria you'd accept such as location or container type? And, implicitly, you're complaining about a power trail that actually has a theme as if a power trail without a theme would be better? You're just looking for things to complain about now. As long as I enjoy the caches, I could care less what theme inspires someone to put them out. Oops. Ob. irk: people commenting in the irk thread about other people's irks.
  15. I am with those with a dislike for power trails.To me they seem totally designed to boost find counts with the minimal amount of effort. I don't think they positively contribute the Geocaching at all because mostly containers are hastily prepared with little creativity and not much regard to camouflage and weather suitability. As mentioned they have the effect of blocking out large spaces in a particular area that would be better served with even just a few well thought out and constructed hides. Not far from where I live is a power trail with each cache(about 30)named after a particular year and model of car that has no relevance to the area in which it is hidden other than maybe the CO preference for that brand of vehicle. For this cacher this is a pointless exercise and I won't be chasing numbers just for the sake of it. I should point out that I have no desire to hide a cache in the area so I have no motive for bagging this particular PT. Similarly I,m not big on caches that require you to enter commercial premises that while not overtly advertising the enterprise I think that the positioning of the hide has that effect and probably contravenes placement guidelines.
  16. Thanks for the replies. I guess I should have clarified that I only need the pic links in the cache description area and not the the full ten pics. I,m still not clear on the upload process as when I have clicked on upload image in the edit listing area the pics always go to the logs area.
  17. I have a similar question about uploading photos. I would like to include about 10 pics of various buildings that are part of a puzzle cache but don't want them in the log section of the page. I can't seem to find an option to place them under the cache description. Does anybody have any thoughts on how this is achieved. Thanks
  18. It seems to be an increasing trend for people to log caches/ events that they haven't attended or found. I really don't understand the satisfaction in that,to me it is just a hollow online entry. It would appear that the integrity of the sport is being eroded by these actions and maybe cache owners and event organizers need to scrutinize logs more closely I thought that one of the fundamental principles of geocaching was that it took you to places you wouldn't normally go and gave you new experiences sadly for some these beliefs are not upheld
  19. Ok Thanks for the feedback. would the same reasoning apply if a cache was taken over by a new owner and you had logged a find with the original owner could you then register another find on the same cache?
  20. This is allowed. The cacher found the cache and signed in as part of the group. Now they're separating out their finds to a new account. It's perfectly legitimate, and is not artificially inflating their found count because they DID find the cache.Ditto what TriciaG said. It's perfectly legitimate. This person now has an individual account, and is logging his/her past finds with that individual account. It really isn't that different from someone who goes geocaching with a geocaching friend, and then later creates an account and logs those finds using the new account.
  21. I have a question in a similar vein. A cacher who was with a group of cachers and found one of mine which was duly logged as a found cache has subsequently left the group to start caching under a different name. The renamed cacher is now logging on line "found it " logs for caches found previously when attached to the group. What is the protocol here for this activity. I feel that this is not in the spirit of Geocaching and allowing this type of virtual log just serves to artificially inflate a cachers find count. It is my belief that if you haven,t physically found the cache and signed the log(if applicable)then no found it log should be recorded Just seeking some feedback from other cachers Thanks
  22. Hey wandillup sorry! I actually accidently clicked it when I was checking it out, however I was on lombongan the last few days and wish I had found it!! Got this one recently and was quite bemused to read the "accidentally" clicked it bit and that they wished they could have found it. This was the first find for the cacher and given its location was immediately doubtful of the veracity of the log and the very brief one word found it log!
  23. I wonder what his tree climbing gear is? Does he use an axe to cut notches? Otherwise, I doubt we would do any more damage to the tree than a large cat (think puma) or bear might do. If I was the CO, I might post that the next to find gets a free bison tube as a reward. Skye.
  24. 3125 caches in one day would seem to any genuine cacher as unrealistic and quite possibly false. Seriously if you are just in the sport for the numbers then you are just missing the opportunities that caching has to offer and these sort of numbers are a misrepresentation of of the fundamental principals of geocaching. I once found 4 in a day and enjoyed every one of them ,I'm not sure that the 3125 a day cacher can say the same. I realize there are trails where successive cache finds are possible in quick time but come on over 3000!! I think cachers need to remember that someone has put a lot of thought and sometimes effort into creation of a cache and respect for that is not shown in the logging of such high numbers of finds in a short space of time .
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