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Let me guess... somebody that disagreed with her and/or with the caches? You hit the nail on the head with that answer. LOL. What's he win Johnny?

I only see one negative feedback comment on her article and I wonder who that was from.

http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lvrj.com%2Fnews%2Fhunters-angry-with-removal-of-geocaches-on-e-t-highway-119997649.html&h=70f16 It has only been a couple months since the Nevada Department of Transportation stripped the desert along the Extraterrestrial Highway of its hidden treasures...and they are still talking about it. Many still think it was unwise to remove them.

Great to see another trail of caches out there. Looks like you had fun with the video. I hope to do them sometime if I get out that way.

Heh. Now you know how I felt when I went to my first Veterans of Foreign Wars meeting. I'm 35 (36 soon), so not far off the survey average. I was 31 when we started, and, plus or minus five years, that was about the age of most of the active cachers I met at events in Germany. We seem to have a wider spectrum here in Montgomery, with representatives at nearly all ages. You're only 35, I would have guess a different age.

Maybe you should drop the cache owner a email and ask them about the cache. Seems like the right thing to do.

I'm not saying that this wouldn't be fun at all. Sounds like a blast to me, I like a good race. There are ways to have the real caches with a log to sign and have the punches in the cache too. Some real caches and temp caches would have to be used for saturation ofcourse. None of the caches will be published until the race was over. Keeps the caches from getting muggled. I just don't agree on the punch equals a find that's all. I won't even call it cheating it's just lame that's all. This is not to sound like I am being a jerk but you go out and run almost 12 miles in the woods for just under 2 and a half hours finding hidden cache containers that hold punches and they are hidden well, not just there in the open and tell me that it is lame to go by the event rules on logging the caches that you had found then come back in 3 hours and do it all over again in team competitions. There is nothing lame about it. It is a blast.

I wasn't involved with the Civil War but I still have an opinion about it. I can assure you that no matter what, my opinion on fraudulent cache logs will not change. I hope you learned about the Civil War in school, books and t.v. I really hope you didn't learn about the war in these forums since there isn't much on hand knowledge here. Just a bunch of hear say.

Cool, a list of the GC codes for the caches. I can I log them too? After all, I haven't found them either. If you feel you must then go ahead.

Sounds like fun, but how is it geocaching? That is what I'm saying too. How is this geocaching? Your not finding any caches your finding hole punches. I understand the theory behind the race but I really think it's lame to claim caches that you didn't find and sign the log. It seems to me that you don't even need caches for this compition just hole punches. Why even have any caches linked to this race at all. It's the punches your after not the cache itself. We have the Rough Neck events down in Ocotillo Wells and they have a BUNCH of temp caches that we don't claim finds. I'm pretty sure people will keep doing these MOGA events even if they don't get credit for finds. It's the CHAMP status people want. I love people stateing when they don't know facts. The punches are hidden in cache containers. So you are finding caches that house the punches. By the way, I love being the CHAMP. [] Check the link on the punches. http://www.mogageo.com/ It says that the punches will be hidden in punch containers not geocaches. Again your finding punches not geocaches. You should not be allowed to log finds on any caches that you did't SIGN the log on. Just a cheesy way to get a find because you worked so hard finding Punch containers. I understand that they did this because people weren't getting credit for geocaches and hence not coming to the race. They should just call it was it is...........Who can find the most punches in a 2.5 hour time period. Congrats on being champ again. Is that like being geocacher of the year or holding the most finds in a 24hr period. I might have to try this MOGA event next year. I hope you do make it. It is in Iowa next year. Here is a link to the cache page to sign up. http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?guid=b4602c93-a3d5-4de3-997d-c2b8ba40a54f

Sounds like fun, but how is it geocaching? That is what I'm saying too. How is this geocaching? Your not finding any caches your finding hole punches. I understand the theory behind the race but I really think it's lame to claim caches that you didn't find and sign the log. It seems to me that you don't even need caches for this compition just hole punches. Why even have any caches linked to this race at all. It's the punches your after not the cache itself. We have the Rough Neck events down in Ocotillo Wells and they have a BUNCH of temp caches that we don't claim finds. I'm pretty sure people will keep doing these MOGA events even if they don't get credit for finds. It's the CHAMP status people want. I love people stateing when they don't know facts. The punches are hidden in cache containers. So you are finding caches that house the punches. By the way, I love being the CHAMP. [] Check the link on the punches. http://www.mogageo.com/ What's next will you start logging a find everytime you find your lunch in a tupperware container? The cache was miles away from the container you found. You did not find the cache. I am more of a brown bagger so my lunch is in ziplock baggies. Reading some of your posts I can see why you don't like caching in a competition if you can't drive or ride something up to it. Where is the adventure in that.

Sounds like fun, but how is it geocaching? That is what I'm saying too. How is this geocaching? Your not finding any caches your finding hole punches. I understand the theory behind the race but I really think it's lame to claim caches that you didn't find and sign the log. It seems to me that you don't even need caches for this compition just hole punches. Why even have any caches linked to this race at all. It's the punches your after not the cache itself. We have the Rough Neck events down in Ocotillo Wells and they have a BUNCH of temp caches that we don't claim finds. I'm pretty sure people will keep doing these MOGA events even if they don't get credit for finds. It's the CHAMP status people want. I love people stateing when they don't know facts. The punches are hidden in cache containers. So you are finding caches that house the punches. By the way, I love being the CHAMP. [] Check the link on the punches. http://www.mogageo.com/

Sounds like fun, but how is it geocaching? Come over and compete next year in Iowa at MOGA, you'll see a whole new side of caching. I think we would even be in the same age bracket.

I don't think anyone said it wasn't a great event, that takes a lot to pull off. The TS was talking about 2 practices that happend at the event. Why not address those issues, instead of making up other issues?Then you need to go back and read every post cause you must have missed alot of stuff that has been said. I just went back and read every post. AFAICS, no one criticized the event itself. Some people criticized the "prize" awarded for winning the competition. To me, it sounds like the old silliness of posting multiple Attended logs to score smileys for temporary event caches, only more so because it involves armchair logging unrelated caches some distance from the event itself. Some people criticized the "gift" offered to event volunteers, which is just as silly as the "prize" awarded for winning the competition. A few suggested solutions to the problem PokerLuck described (non-competitors taking the punches used by the competition). But no one criticized the event itself, or the effort required to organize a large event like that. Some you are saying that they are criticizing the staff right? The people who put the event on right? So in turn it is the event cause without the people who is putting on the event, there would be no event. Aren't you or others saying that the people putting on the event is allowing cachers to armchair caches that they say aren't there? How it really works is that you get credit for each cache that you punch on your competition card. At the end of MOGA they let you know which cache goes for that punch you found so that way you get credit for the cache. So at the end of the two and a half hours I had 35 of the fifty punches so when it was done I knew that I still had 15 caches to find at the end of the day to find and sign the caches before I headed home after the weekend. And this is all done on foot, you are not allowed to use a car to get around while finding them.

This is just my thought of why they did it the way they did this year with the cache not being as close to the punch like the other years, so don't take this as truth since for one, I am not part of the staff. The Rend Lake does not have as much land as the Mark Twain area does so to me, it looked like they had their hands tied as far as where they was allowed to place the caches so they had the pick one area for the competition and one area for the hundred premanent. The corp of engineers has a guideline that they have to work with and I am sure the was going by their guidelines too.

Delete what? A found it log on a cache you didn't actually find and sign the log? Can you say MOGA? I am sorry. Every find I had at MOGA was legit. Want to check my card? Why don't you come down to play there next year. It will be great to have you there.

I don't think anyone said it wasn't a great event, that takes a lot to pull off. The TS was talking about 2 practices that happend at the event. Why not address those issues, instead of making up other issues? Then you need to go back and read every post cause you must have missed alot of stuff that has been said.

Until any of you can go to a MOGA event and see how it really works cause reading your posts you have no clue what it takes to pull a huge event like this off to make it work for everyone. I have been there every year for the past five years and it has only gotten bigger and better each time. Come compete next year in Iowa where it will be held and then come back and throw in your two cents.

Well said. I too was one of the people there in the competition. I did both the singles and team. It was no walk in the park and the weather did work against us.

I was at the event. It was the only cache that I did not go after cause I really wasn't feeling up to getting wet. I seen a fellow area cacher friend of mine log it and I know that they wouldn't get wet for it either. Even email them about in case they logged it by mistake. Never heard back. I guess that one extra smiley was worth it. LOL. Oh well, it is only a game.

Delete.

In my area cachers are more into the cache find and not the swag find. In all the different areas that I cache in, and I do travel to alot of different areas and states, you just don't see much swag anymore. Is swag becoming a thing of the past?

A Garmin 62s that was found on Treasure Island GC2PBKB. That was a great cache too.

I wish I lived near your place. I bet there would be a great first to find gift in your caches.

I'd agree except for the observation below: He or she is a Premium Member so don't jump the gun on them. On the other hand, if he or she is just seeing geocaching as a medium for commercial solicitation, they'll probably write off the premium membership fee as an advertising expense on their taxes. What is the point? Are they not welcomed here?