team moxiepup

I'm getting that too. I'm rather relieved it's not just me, as i just had to switch rooms at work and am now on a different computer. I was thinking... "I was able to get there on the other computer (a Pc) ... D*mn Macs! Lol! Hope they get things back up soon!

Soooooo.... it might stand out, a little... just a wee bit.

Have you got any of these in your area? Picture one with a lid!

I see under your name that you are from Texas... how about doing it up like a cactus. If no cactus is in your area... what is? Large clump of grass, rock...?

I agree with wiseye... whan it's no longer fun. There are so many factors that come into play... temperature, hunger, bladder fullness, is the dog bored....

We found some at a military surplus store for under $5.

I too, agree that logging the find is a courtesy to the cache owner. If you can find the time to hunt down a cache, you can find a few moments of time to log it in. I think people who don't log in should be especially mindfull not to grab TBs or Geocoins, as this can be fustrating to the owners and for the next cachers to come across the cache looking for those items. I've seen this happen twice (by newbies, who hopefully will learn better).

How about... "Set Yer Bucket on the Bucket" "The Butt Stops Here" "You Bet Your Bottom" Or just be obscure and call it "Shirley" It's nice to keep people guessing, and it's a nice name. I've two aunts named Shirley.

^ I've seen those in pet stores, they're dog/cat toys! Last thing we pulled out of a cache was about a cup of water! It was the fourth or fifth one we've found like that in the past two weeks. We dry them best we can and let the cache owners know, but sadly, it seems that these caches go without maintenance more often than not. The last object we pulled out was a mini flashlight (always good for those late night dog walks), for which we traded a mini clamp.

Well, when was the last time an animal told you it was feeling anxious? How else would you know? With all due respect, you can believe that animals can feel anything at all, but it is biologically impossible to know what an animal thinks or feels...if they even do! The best science can do is describe their responses to a particular stimulus. And putting human characteristics on those responses is improper to truly understanding animal behavoir. For example: It is widly thought that when your dog jumps up on you and licks your face when you come home it is "happy" to see you. In researching dog evolution, that exact same behavoir has been seen in wild dogs from Africa. They exhibit the same behavoir when others in the pack have returned from the hunt. It is now widly believe that the excited jumping and licking of the face causes the dogs who just hunted to regurgitate some of their recently consumed food for the others who remained behind, especially the pups, to eat. Gross huh? For all of your worries about traps and your dog. You have 100 times more to fear about your dogs safety while it is riding in your car to and from caches with you than you do with traps. I have studied animal behavior, and anyone who works with animals; vetrinarians, zookeepers and people who study them in the field can tell you, animals are quite capable of feeling pain, hunger, thirst and anxiety and more. If an animal is unable to feel pain, it would be unable to avoid and protect itself from dangerous situations. Hunger and thirst are basic primary drives of self preservation to prevent starvation and dehydration. They have evolved as unpleasant motivators to induce the behaviors of eating and drinking. Animals are able to communicate non verbally. Anxiety can be seen in behaviors such as tense body posture, staring, licking of the lips, etc. People who work with animals are very aware of these cues and are able to understand what an animal may be feeling by reading body posture, and behavior. It is rather presumtious to think that only humans, who can communicate verbally, are the only beings on earth able to feel.

Anthropomorphism is a dangerous thing. I don't believe that anything I said was anthropomorphic. Animals are very capable of feeling pain, hunger, thirst and anxiety. A lack of empathy is a very dangerous thing though! Ummm.... what about dogs that investigate odor sources, and poke their snoots in hidden spots? Thanks for the info Fox-and-the-hound, I'll definately be carrying wire snips from now on! My Partner knows a guy at work who traps, (we've agreed to disagree ) I'll ask her to ask him if he can show us how to safely release these traps if ever an emergency pops up.

I believe that these traps are cruel. Imagine being caught in one. Your foot/ankle/leg (if you're lucky) hurts, especially if you try to move, which you can't help but do in an effort to escape. You cannot get to the safety of your burrow/nest , so you feel exposed to every noise/scent around you. This makes you incredibly anxious. This non-stop anxiety will last for up to 24 hours if your trapper is conscientious, days if he is not. You are probably cold, hungry and thirsty. Again this could be up to 24 hours if your trapper is conscientious, days if he is not. If you have the will and the teeth for it, you may be lucky enough to chew off your own foot. I ask you... is trapping a necessity in this day and age? Just my two cents. I cache with a small dog, who is very curious. We keep her on an extended leash, but after reading this thread, I'm concerned about her getting caught. Are trappers required to post any signs as a warning? Trappers (whether I like it or not) may have the right to trap according to local laws, but what about my rights to walk my dog in safety?

This is Moxie. She's a Miniature Pinscher/ Pomeranian mix. She's small (about 15lbs.), but she is always up for a hike, and loves snow and water. We got her from a rescue shelter when she was 8 weeks old. We found her on www.petfinders.com . You can type in whatever breed you're interested in; age, sex, and size preferences, and they'll give you a list of dogs, purebreds and mixes, that match. There are so many wonderful dogs out there that need homes, please consider adopting.

We just placed our first cache last week. We made up a FTF token, a handmade woodburned wooden nickel in a similar design to our signature tokens, but with the cache name and FTF inscribed on it as well. We tried to fill it with quality items, so the FTF would have first pick.

I haven't come across any glass containers yet, but I'm not too keen on the idea. Many people cache with their dogs, and I hate the thought of any paws getting cut up due to shards of glass that may have gotten overlooked during a clean-up.

There is a micro at the Seneca Park Zoo, in Rochester NY.

Moxie from Team Moxiepup at Red Falls View in NY with "There and Back Again" TB. She loves the scenery during the cache hunts.... birds, squirrels, turkeys, deer poop ... etc.

Thanks for all the info. We are still hooked and to prove it we have been caching through the snow !!! On the bright side no BUGS!!! downside.... Cold bitterly cold !! But fun!!

500th find !!!! We have a ways to go !!!! But I am sure we will get there some day..... nothing is gonna get done around the house though Thanks for all of your suggestions

We are newbies and were out caching and saw some cachers ahead of us on a multi. They headed off for the second part as we were doing the first. We found the first and moved onto the second part. We saw them looking for the cache and hung back to let them find it. We waited and waited and waited... finally we slowly moved in. We talked with them and they decided to break for lunch and let us look. We found it within a minute of them leaving Would it have been ok to look for it at the same time they were looking for it? Are there any other etiquette issues we should be aware of?

We recently came across a cache that had mercury thermometers in it being newbies, we were not sure how to handle this so we left them and emailed the owner of the cache and let them know that they should be disposed of properly. We also let them know if we were in the area again we would recheck the cache and remove the thermometers if they were still there and they hadn't been able to get to the cache to take care of it. We have not heard back from the owner and next time we are in the area we will check the cache and remove them if they are still there. 20/20 hindsight.... we should have done what we felt was right and removed them when we saw them

We tried it also..... you can learn lots here !!!