strangeday420

Disable account email sent. Y'all have a good one....

Thanks for the acct. Link, I'm on my way now. All of my caches have been pulled or transferred to others. Don't worry, I'll leave your guys little boxes alone, and will go about my merry way.... All in all, geocaching is just kind of dated, and just kind of dumb...I'm out

I would rather just delete my acct. But looking through the site, I can't find anywhere to do it. Suggestions?

I was trying to have a dialogue about caches that are placed in improper areas, and without permission. My own was one of them. I thought the forum would be a good place for that, but it's jus typical [edited] like most forums. Don't worry, I'll nuke my acct soon, and you cool kids cam go back to your littering. Is there a mod that can nuke my acct. And save me the trouble, or do I need to start violating forum rules first?

I would venture to guess, that almost all caches, DON'T have proper permission from land owners/stewards. I'm not threatening anyone. Just a word of caution on going around and calling people liars.

Statement was made based on comments made on the page. I posted that prior to checking it, and when it was found still intact, I pulled it. Careful who you go around calling a liar...

I only brought this up here, as Kerb, an ADMIN/MOD suggested it. The basis for it was, that a cache I placed, was de-listed because nobody had found it in three years. I no longer geocache, but have maintained the one in question. After checking this last weekend, the cache was still there, and in good condition. It was replaced, and the container was upgraded a year ago, after people were posting it was gone. It wasn't. It was well hidden, and I guess people aren't willing to look that hard for them. That said, I pulled it, because it was placed on national forest land, and I did not have permission to have it there, nor does anyone else who has a cache up there, and there are a few. I was just starting a dialogue, but my threat to pull other caches up there, prompted their letter. The bottom line is that placing a cache IS littering. Unless you own the property where you are placing it, chances are it is not a proper placement under groundspeaks terms of use. Caches placed in city parks, and in urban areas, even those that violate these terms, don't bother me as much. Ones left in wilderness areas, or in national parks do. Without physical containers, geocachers wouldn't have any place to put their geo coins, TB's or other swag they buy from Groundspeak. Again, I'm not going to go around pulling peoples caches, but if there are ones I feel are particularly egregious, in wilderness areas, I will have no problem pulling them and notifying the owner. As for the coments about 47 finds in 9 years, geocaching.com is not the only game in town. There are plenty of options for this "sport" besides it, and it's not all about the numbers. I prefer to use my gps hiking the sierras, and peak bagging, rather than looking around a parking lot for a stupid trinket. Most caches now, are boring, and have no thought put into them. I miss the days when OtisPug used to hide his brilliant creations, people here could learn from him.

I received this today... We wanted to contact you about a recent log you posted on your own cache listing. It reads, "This cache is long gone, I no longer support geocaching, as it is pretty much organized littering. I will archive this listing, and will remove any other cache that I come across whether I placed it or not." We are asking that you do not write such statements on your own, or another cache owner's cache listing. We are concerned that cache owners and local Reviewers will see this post as a threat. Please be aware of how these types of posts will affect the geocaching community. We were surprised to see that a longtime cacher, such as yourself, would write this statement. Are you willing to explain your intentions in posting this log? Would you care to share more on why you feel geocaching is harmful to the environment? Also, please know that you are encouraged to help improve this game. There is a movement (many different ones in fact) toward more environmentally aware geocaching. Please check out what users are saying at our CITO forum. Regards, Kerb Volunteer Support Specialist Groundspeak, Inc. - The Language of Location My response- As stated, geocaching is littering. Period. The vast majority of caches that I see, do not even meet the sites own rules for proper placement. I highly doubt that the owners of most caches, have cleared the placement with either the land owners, or managers, and the geocaching site does not check this before it posts them. The cache that I just pulled, and commented on, is a perfect example. It was placed on national Forrest land, but I asked permission from a friend who works at the wilson observatory, and was told it would be fine to place it. It's not. The forestry dept. Clearly states that all property left unattended for 24 hours is abandoned, and considered trash. There are many of these up in Angeles forest, and I will make a point of removing them as my schedule allows. There is also user impact to think of as well. Many caches are placed far off trails, leading to plant damage, erosion, and containers left where wildlife could encounter them. I do think that geocaching is a fun pastime, and can be done in a smart and Eco friendly manner, but unfortunately, it's not. The average user of this site, feels it's imperative to have a container full of junk, and little trinkets that this site profits from, in order for it to be worth doing. It was fun at one point, but has devolved into a giant and world wide group who likes to litter, and tell others where they did. I will still continue to search and find confluence points, and benchmarks, but any containers are verboten in my book, and while I won't actively seek to remove others caches, I will pull ones I find poorly placed, or in sensitive environments.

Yeah bug, it happened to me with one of mine. I ended up just archiving it and listing a new one....