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I had thought about that (as finding one is what initially got my interested enough to look into it) however I so not feel like have the right/authority/knowledge/status/whatever else you wanna call it to place a divecache having never found a single cache on my own. Well other than by accident the one time, you know what I mean....

Those are Lord British caches aka Richard Garriott (sp?) He is very wealthy and those are really just two special cases. The ISS cache is really not a cache because there is no extra container or paper. I don't see how the deep sea one is hurting the environment, but that;s a different debate for a different thread. That's a lot of stuff to respond to. First it's not always meant to be easy I spent hours looking for my first before I tried a different one. Over time I have built up the skills to find caches more easily. Look at the star ratings at the top of the page. The difficulty is supposed to show how hard it is to find. A 1 would be an easy cache for any level. A 1.5 may take a couple minutes. A 2 maybe 5-10 based on experience. Also look at the size. A micro is smaller than a small flashlight down to a nano which is the size of a pencil eraser. Micros in urban settings are usually magnetic. Read the description and logs before your first few hunts. Research is the best weapon to finding caches. Second cell phones have more limited accuracy. With a good signal they may be able to get you within 30 feet. So look around in more than one spot. Terrain is based on the average person. A 1 is usually wheelchair accessible. Anything over a 2 is going to require some walking/hiking. More can be found here: http://www.cacheopedia.com/wiki/Geocaching.com_Rating_System#Terrain As far as access you can look at the terrain rating, but I also read the description, look at overhead maps, and look at the attributes on the right hand side of the page. All of this information will combine to let me know what to expect. Trust me from events and personal experience the majority of cachers are not in top physical shape. There are plenty of grandma's and grandpa's who cache. Heck some of the top finders I have seen are retired people who travel around in an RV. Geocaching can be done be the handicapped to the most extreme. So the cache I was looking for was called "ungrouchy oscar" seems to be is a 1.5 all the way around and a size of micro. Unfortunately I am not able to view any details other than those and the description on the app. Does this change with the paid app or is it the same way where you cant see the logs? I have since (as in just a few seconds ago) looked at this one again from my computer and it appears to still be in place best i can tell so it apparently was me. I kinda figured an "easy" one would be the way to go but it appears as if either this one is not as easy as thought or i am just not cut out for it. I will revisit the site in about an hour and see which one it is... Thanks for all the help everyone.

Oh WOW! Nice find on the DAN site (medical insurance provider for divers and dive related injuries) Doesnt have a list of coordinates or caches or anything but it appears as that may be forthcoming. I appreciate your help Seeker. That provides me with enough information for the time being. Now I just need to decide if I want to spend 550$ for that new Atomic Z2X Regulator i really want or 30$ for a PM.... Decisions decisions.....

I live in WA so I can't help you with your local caches, but this cache is fairly close to the coordinates you listed: GC20KBB http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?guid=37d21e82-027e-49d2-b472-128c912415f1. I recommend contacting this cache owner directly and they may be able to help you get started. This is the link to their caching page: http://www.geocaching.com/profile/?guid=90a582cf-e27e-4391-bae3-a665d052c626&wid=37d21e82-027e-49d2-b472-128c912415f1&ds=2 I hope that helps. Congrats on finding a cache! Caching on land is a lot of fun too Thanks for the info, however wreck alley itself is the name of a dive site about 2 miles off the coast of San Diego (little south and little west of the location I found this cache at). From reading the description it also appears as though it is a "surface cache", not underwater. I bet caching on land is fun. However most of the ones I have researched around here are on the top of hills/mountains/bluffs etc. I am not all too cool with all that hiking and humping and everything anymore. When I was younger and in better shape and on active duty that was one thing however... No it was a smallish pelican case approximately 4"x6"x2" Cant actually see the pants on fire cache as it is premium only. No offense but I kinda wanna do DiveCaching because I like to get wet and like to dive. I am not a big hiker or backpaker (see response above). I wouldn't mind paying for a membership if there were more/an easier way to find underwater caches. However it appears that this niche is not currently being served by anyone including this site. There's actually quite a few diving and underwater caches! You just have to know how to search for them. There's even one in my small town Perhaps you can share this wondrous secret to the searching with me? I have noticed there are SOME diving/Underwater caches. However I noticed that there are possible at most 20. Some of those include the use of an ROV with manipulator arms to access. (as in EXTREMELY DEEP further than humans can live) "thermal vents" something or another. Others appear to be WELL beyond the limits of RECREATIONAL diving (i.e. "Northern Lights" and a few others by the same cacher). These appear to be at depths of 180+ feet where someone must be trained as a commercial diver in order to purchase the supplies to get to the location. Unless I am severely mistaken about the goal of geocaching it is to make it accessible to a large group of people to encourage them to get outdoors and help the environment at the same time (CITO or whatever it is). Thus caches like the ones I listed previously or even the one on the ISS, while interesting and novel are merely not within the grasp of people. Ones such as the ones I listed even seem to be counter-productive to the goals of helping the environment as these will likely be there for a significant length of time and as such will cause harm to the environment. I know it sounds like I am whining here, but I am merely trying to understand in my own sick twisted form of logic. That and you stated there are "quite a few" scuba/underwater caches and according to the research I have done on this and other caching sites appears to point to the opposite. I am not trying to be argumentative, just trying to understand where I am doing something wrong.

Not too sure about this whole PQ thing and what it is or does. However I have searched on the main page for "scuba" amongst other words and come up with results that are titled "SCUBA Port Hueneme" (a name of a city/naval base in California) whose GPS coordinates put it roughly somewhere in the middle of landlocked Russia no where near any noticeable rivers/streams/lakes/etc. Or "SCUBA Desert IRAQ" something or another where it is located outside the wire of the US military instillation in IRAQ. Once again not near any sort of river or stream or anything discernible as such. Perhaps there is a way to better titleize/categorize these? I did try out one last night that is supposedly by my local taco shop (used the free app and everything) however the problems I had were: 1. it appears that I am either blind, dumb, losing my eye sight or just plain not as smart as I think I am. 2. the "write-up" is written in a riddle/metaphor form which I understand mostly. 3. There has been some construction within the last year and a half or so at the site which may or may not have changed the topographical/construction features of the hide spot. 4. There is no way to check (at least in the free app) if the site has been declared a DNF, when the last find was, or even what the GC# is so you can locate it via the web browser of America's favorite cell phone. 5. From my very VERY limited understanding there is some way with the premium account to search based on terrain difficulty, however I see this being a potential problem as what is difficult for a Navy SEAL out of BUD/S (BUDS training is like 20 miles from my house) is quite different from what is difficult for my grandmother or even my father. 6. Perhaps there should be a feature that would allow people to list the TYPE of entry required and be searchable by such? For example: Boat entry, underwater entry, hiking entry, mountainous entry, urban area, vehicle required. Something along those lines? Or is this something already covered with these PQ's? I understand I am a complete and utter noob when it comes to this sort of thing and I am not trying to completely change everything. I am just pointing out some of my frustrations that are currently preventing me from joining on a more enthusiastic basis. Perchance I am not the only one with these frustrations?

If you're using a 13 year old phone then I'm sorry, but I just have to say, you're dumber than your phone and a bag of hammers put together. Nothing personal. Sorry Brother. I was not aware that the age of my phone had any impact on my IQ. Could that be why most puzzles elude me? My phone is making me dumb? Hey, it's gotta be something killing all those brain cells, right? Might as well blame the phone. Back to my original question; I don't know anything about the processing steps for QR barcodes. I'm assuming that the software on a smart phone extracts the encrypted data as the image is downloaded to the device? Maybe? If I took a picture of the QR code with my digital camera, (which, being 5 years old, is almost as dumb as my phone), could I download the image to my desktop and extract the data there? You do not need a listening/tracking/recording device that you pay for, to decrypt standard QR codes. If I am reading correctly tho, you have to be within a specific range of the coords when decrypting the QR for this "don't wanna even think the dumb sounding word based off of mums the word", and that means running an app that not only does the decrypting but is reading the GPS. So yes, you need a "let them have the ability to intrude into you life anytime they want" phone.They = criminals ranging from the tech savvy street thug to the (any level of government) LEO who doesn't take his oath to defend the constitution seriously. Unfortunately that covers abut 99% of the Federal Agencies and about 65% of the Local LEOs....

Actually scuba divers invented this great thing back about 100 years ago called a slate. This works rather well when it is used with something called a grease pencil. Here is a link showing how to make your own divers slate. It also lists variations of pencil ideas that will work and even includes a way of securing these items together. (so they dont float away) http://www.scuba-diving-smiles.com/dive-slate.html I believe that something along the lines of a pelican case will be MORE than sufficient for the depths associated with recreational diving. The benefits of the pelican style cases in that they have bleeder valves on them to equalize the pressure. If you are going to place something underwater it has to be able to handle the pressure at depth (2 atmospheres at 33ft, 3 at 66ft etc...) and also must be negatively buoyant. Ensure that the weights are properly secured to the case. If not all divers know how expensive lead can be and might be tempted to abscond with it... Hope this helps.

I live in WA so I can't help you with your local caches, but this cache is fairly close to the coordinates you listed: GC20KBB http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?guid=37d21e82-027e-49d2-b472-128c912415f1. I recommend contacting this cache owner directly and they may be able to help you get started. This is the link to their caching page: http://www.geocaching.com/profile/?guid=90a582cf-e27e-4391-bae3-a665d052c626&wid=37d21e82-027e-49d2-b472-128c912415f1&ds=2 I hope that helps. Congrats on finding a cache! Caching on land is a lot of fun too Thanks for the info, however wreck alley itself is the name of a dive site about 2 miles off the coast of San Diego (little south and little west of the location I found this cache at). From reading the description it also appears as though it is a "surface cache", not underwater. I bet caching on land is fun. However most of the ones I have researched around here are on the top of hills/mountains/bluffs etc. I am not all too cool with all that hiking and humping and everything anymore. When I was younger and in better shape and on active duty that was one thing however... No it was a smallish pelican case approximately 4"x6"x2". I have looked these coordinates up on numerous sites, here included, and drawn blanks. I have also looked up any coordinates that appear to be in the water around the San Diego Area. Nothing seems to mesh, most of these appear to be multis that start WAY inland and appear to have just had the coordinates put there to obscure the actual location. The rest appear to be kayak/boat/surface caches. I am beginning to think this is either an unpublished cache (no one had signed the log and it appeared to be SEMI fresh, i.e. no algaeal growth on the case itself, no silt covering the case, etc.) or a defunct cache. I just wish the pencil would have been in better shape or that I had one of my own on me. Lesson learned carry grease pencil at all time when diving! Cant actually see the pants on fire cache as it is premium only. No offense but I kinda wanna do DiveCaching because I like to get wet and like to dive. I am not a big hiker or backpaker (see response above). I wouldn't mind paying for a membership if there were more/an easier way to find underwater caches. However it appears that this niche is not currently being served by anyone including this site.

So here is a basic run down of the whole deal. This past Thursday me and a buddy were doing a night dive at La Jolla shores. After descending to a depth of 90 feet we began to work our way slowly back towards shore. At approximately 60 fsw we both noticed a pelican case that was laying on the bottom with DO NOT REMOVE written in big letters on it. we opened it up and found a log and a pencil (too deteriorated (the pencil) to sign the log. We replaced everything that was in there and kept on going back towards shore. Basically this is what got me interested in geocaching (or more specifically DiveCaching) but I have been unable to locate this on the website to log it. I have performed numerous searches for "scuba" "dive" "la jolla" "san diego" all separately and gone through all the results but have been unable to locate it. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Approximate coordinates are: 32.858226,-117.261286 Also any additional locations for DiveCaching in the San Diego area would be appreciated.