RocTheCacheBox

When has "bring a pen" ever been a requirement for the cache page? Common sense says you'd need a GPS and a pen (since all logs must be signed...) in this hobby. I say we should use the term "uncommon sense" cause common sense is no longer that common.

Did gyre and gimble in the wabe

"Find counts do not matter, and are essentially useless" to me. The key words here are “essentially” and “to me” I use my numbers keep track of the caches I've found. I use that information in order to avoid doing the same cache a second time. I have no goals except to have fun. I started caching 3 years ago as a way to add additional enjoyment to camping and hiking trips. I have expanded upon my caching experience from there. I am not in a competition with anyone. I have seen people that have found far more caches in 1 day than I have in 3 years. I'm sure they had fun doing it otherwise they probably wouldn’t have done it. What someone may think of my numbers is irrelevant to me just as other cachers numbers are irrelevant to me. We participate in the activity differently and for different reasons. Some cachers like to compete with each other. Some like to see how many they can do in a certain time frame. There are many goals attainable in Geocaching if one wants to achieve them. To them, find counts are essential. Not understanding why people enjoy caching a certain way is understandable. Criticizing them because the game has evolved and their way doesn’t fit with with your made up definition of “proper” geocaching is rude. There are only a few basic guidelines to this activity. But the way you participate in it is left up to you to decide. If find counts mater or don’t mater is totally up to you. But I'm sure I'm wrong.

After discussing it with Brother Maynard we have settled on the number. That number shall be 10,559. No more, no less. 10,559 shall be the number thou shalt return home with.

(well I have been to new York, but my preference, ill only "armchair" log caches if their local) Well, Its nice to see you have standards.

I once did a LPC in which the container was a can of those spring loaded snakes. Mrs Roc and I laughed our butts off. We even took others there to laugh at them! Ive done a few GRC's with key holders that took me to wonderful covered bridges. I've opened many 35mm film cans while standing at the base of a waterfall or at the top of a cliff with a scenic overlook. The last Ammo can I opened was at Sgt Alvin York's house in Tenn. If ever an ammo can was called for, that was the place. I've also found ammo cans in rotting stumps 50 feet off a trailhead with no reason to be there except to be a cache. My point is I don't have a favorite container or size. First and foremost is the destination. Take me someplace worth visiting. If you cant do that give me a container that makes me smile because its funny or because you put some thought into it.

I find every cache I attempt. If I arrive at GZ and the cache is missing for some reason, I replace the missing cache, in the exact place the CO intended, with a film canister containing a logsheet in a small ziplock bag. Logging a DNF would hurt my numbers and image.

This was posted on a cache that involved climbing a tree... "Found it 02/24/2013 Found it but won't be getting it" :blink:

Rock the Casbah was on the radio one day when we were cashing with our original name. I started singing "Rock the cache box, Rock the cache box" and it stuck. Had to try a couple of variations before RocTheCacheBox was available. Last month we signed a log with ROCK_the_CacheBox 2 below our log!

Only 402 caches under our belt but the best yet has been Mocopulence GCQ03E

The Killer Rabbit of Caerbannog by far was the worst encounter ever. Twas the most foul, cruel, and bad-tempered rodent you ever set eyes on! That rabbit's got a vicious streak a mile wide! It's a killer!

Human cremains. We picked up a travel bug yesterday that has a container with some ashes of someones relitive attached. The person never got to travel much while alive but they have 2800 + miles since they passed away! Im sure some would find it creepy, revolting, sacrilegious etc. But we find it kind of a cool idea.

OMG! Jeremy and Richard are cachers too?! Tonight on Top Gear...James finds tupperware in the woods, Richard signs a log, and Jeremy get poison Ivy.....

You falling for a logical fallacy called denying the antecedent. It says that once the physical log has been signed you can log a find online. That does not mean that if the physical log is not signed you can not log a find online. Again think of the reason the guideline was added. Cache owners were deleting online logs because the finder hadn't done some silly additional requirement after finding the cache. They were told to stop doing this. The only requirement they could have for logging a find online were finding the cache and signing the log. It did not tell them they had to have these requirements (although elsewhere cache owners are told to delete logs that appear to be bogus), just that anything else (with the exception of certain geocaching related challenges) was no longer allowed. Thanks for taking time for me tozainamboku. I now understand that the only requirement a CO can have for logging a find is finding the cache and signing the log and that they dont even have to require a signature if they so choose. Im going to assume (and I know what that does) that if I find a log in a cache, the owner more than likely would like me to sign that log.

So it doesn't mean that Physical geocaches can be logged online as "Found" once the physical log has been signed? Im begining to understand now! Am I missing the Super Secret Geocahing Guidline Interpretation Instructional classes again?

For what its worth coming from a "newbie' The question asked is. "Do you care if someone logs a find on one of your caches, but doesn't sign the log?" As of yet I havent placed a cache but I will before long. This is what I go by. "3.1. Logging of All Physical Geocaches This page is an extension of our Geocache Listing Requirements / Guidelines. Physical geocaches can be logged online as "Found" once the physical log has been signed. An exception is Challenge Caches, which may only be logged online after the challenge requirements have been met and documented to the cache owner's satisfaction. For physical caches all logging requirements beyond finding the geocache and signing the log are considered additional logging requirements (ALRs) and must be optional." Breaking that down.... "Physical geocaches can be logged online as "Found" once the physical log has been signed" I think that in itself is pretty clear. "An exception is Challenge Caches....." I dont see any other exception.So I assume there are no other exceptions. "For physical caches all logging requirements beyond finding the geocache and signing the log are considered additional logging requirements (ALRs) and must be optional." That statement indicates to me that "finding the geocache and signing the log " are manditory not optional. Additionaly 3.2 covers the rules for non physical geocaches - no signature require. Now to answer the question. Yes I care. Will I delete your "find"? Probably not, Exceptions can and should be made. You may have a good excuse. Perhaps you startled a rabid badger as you were opening the cache and you ran. But if you dont want to play by the guidelines thats on you. Have fun doing whatever your doing but your not actualy geocaching. Ive got other things to do than monitor everyone elses game play. Ive played many rounds of golf that Ive lost to guys that have taken 10 or more strokes more than I did and said "good game" as we walk off 18. Sure exceptions can be made, pens freeze or run out of ink, pencil lead breaks, people go out unprepared for the activity. My cachepack has a few pens, pencils I stole from the golf course (so ignore my opinion if you want), and spare logs. Im no better than anyone else but I am better prepared than many.

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