I agree and would also support the yellow eTrex - larger display, AA batteries with pc hook-up and around the same price. The knocking of ebay also shows a lack of understanding - if you use an ebay shop, rather than a private bidder, you can get brand new units. Mine came within 3 days in a sealed unit, was the cheapest I could find and nearly half what I'd pay in the UK. It was also WAAS enabled whereas those in the shops here are older non-WAAS models for twice the price.