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<snip>It's very easy to go through a thicket of PO without realizing it.</snip>
Following the arrow is a surefire way to get PO in Tecolote Canyon.
Oh, sure. Now you tell me...
Sorry... Thought it was common knowledge.
Hey LLOT! Why not post the pictures of your PO again as a reminder for those who take PO lightly...
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BTW: My "San Diego Geocachers" sticker is peeling off the window on my Jeep. Can someone send me a replacement?
edit: tag repair
Once the sticker wears out, the first person with the name kwvers! gets the Jeep! It was time for you to get a new one anyway...
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By Golly I think Flagman may have the answer,,,
We should make him a Reviewer.
Yea!!!! and get rid of the "Pinko Commie" as Harmon would say...Always looked like a pink elephant to me though....
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I think there is more to this story but the cachers I have contacted in SF seemed to be friendly and helpful when I had questions for them
Mrs.kwvers! and I are still having a blast...We are still surprised when we find a cache...Happy to be able to climb a hill..wonder if there really is a cache under the LPC and even have to look there a few times to actually spot it...We like logging our finds and actually remembering our journey. We have often almost crawled from our Jeep into the house because we were so sore after the days adventure..Have had Poison Ivy and Poison oak, broke a bone got stitches,ripped some good clothing,had blisters and scratches,stuck by cactus,stung by bees..have had more flat tires than ever expected..driven down roads that we never knew existed, talked to many policemen and business owners..been honked at. laughed at,questioned and admired. It's a crazy game,sport,adventure,obsession,hobby,excuse to walk or just get away...When we are gone..others will "pass us up"..no worries here....Just making new friends,learning to forgive when wronged..even learning how to spell a word correctly now and then. Happy New Year and we hope to meet more of you cachers out there in the future!
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Vintage San Diego Cache in Jeopardy
My name is Hid Pro Quo. Some of you may remember meeting me and my girlfriend, Kathleen, at event caches, etc. over the years. I have been far less active in the San Diego caching scene ever since I began teaching computer classes on Holland America cruiseships. However, I still consider San Diego home.
Anyway, I need some advice. My cache, OB Offshore mystery cache (GC37FD), has been around since February 2002. This week, a cacher from the Vegas area posted a "Needs Archiving" post on the cache's page. This was quickly followed by Marko Ramius archiving it.
The issue seems to be the virtual nature of this multi-cache's final location. You see, after having trouble with maintenance of a physical cache at the site of the final, I decided to allow a photo or emailed proof of a visit (i.e. a password) to suffice. After consulting with several area cachers, I left the cache type as a multi-cache. There weren't many multi-caches back then.
So, I made this change in September of 2002. Subsequently, as you are no doubt aware, the "no new virtuals" rule was implemented.
I have never had any trouble with it as labeled and no one has ever complained. In fact, quite the opposite has occurred. It has been found by many over the years. Heck, it has been found several times in the last month and was even found earlier this week! It appears on a number of "favorite cache" lists and many people have told me it is one of their favorites in San Diego.
I think every sport benefits from some history and tradition. As such, I believe that, as one of the older active caches in San Diego, OB Offshore is worth preserving.
What are your thoughts? Is preservation of this cache worth pursuing or should I just let it go?
If you feel that it is worth pursuing, then any advice on how would also be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance for you thoughts.
John Roberts
Hid Pro Quo
SEAingtheworld.com
being that there are no cattle grates (inside joke) nearby and no qualms made by local cachers I vote that this cache remains...but it's gonna be tough with two administrators putting their thumbs down...But who knows, maybe a kind gesture in light of a New Year dawning will turn the tide...good luck
I agree with kwvers - it's definitely one of my favorites, and the final location is awesome! I wish we could have virtual caches again, as this would be a prime candidate.
I imagine that if an actual cache container were replaced at the final location and the cache page edited to remove the "virtual" logging language, the cache could be unarchived and it would remain as a multi so long as it was properly maintained. It will never be unarchived in its current state, though, since virtuals are no longer accepted on the GC.com website.
BTW, I would be happy to place a container and take over cache maintenance, if Hid PRo Quo would like me to adopt over the cache to me...
By Golly I think Flagman may have the answer,,,
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Vintage San Diego Cache in Jeopardy
My name is Hid Pro Quo. Some of you may remember meeting me and my girlfriend, Kathleen, at event caches, etc. over the years. I have been far less active in the San Diego caching scene ever since I began teaching computer classes on Holland America cruiseships. However, I still consider San Diego home.
Anyway, I need some advice. My cache, OB Offshore mystery cache (GC37FD), has been around since February 2002. This week, a cacher from the Vegas area posted a "Needs Archiving" post on the cache's page. This was quickly followed by Marko Ramius archiving it.
The issue seems to be the virtual nature of this multi-cache's final location. You see, after having trouble with maintenance of a physical cache at the site of the final, I decided to allow a photo or emailed proof of a visit (i.e. a password) to suffice. After consulting with several area cachers, I left the cache type as a multi-cache. There weren't many multi-caches back then.
So, I made this change in September of 2002. Subsequently, as you are no doubt aware, the "no new virtuals" rule was implemented.
I have never had any trouble with it as labeled and no one has ever complained. In fact, quite the opposite has occurred. It has been found by many over the years. Heck, it has been found several times in the last month and was even found earlier this week! It appears on a number of "favorite cache" lists and many people have told me it is one of their favorites in San Diego.
I think every sport benefits from some history and tradition. As such, I believe that, as one of the older active caches in San Diego, OB Offshore is worth preserving.
What are your thoughts? Is preservation of this cache worth pursuing or should I just let it go?
If you feel that it is worth pursuing, then any advice on how would also be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance for you thoughts.
John Roberts
Hid Pro Quo
SEAingtheworld.com
being that there are no cattle grates (inside joke) nearby and no qualms made by local cachers I vote that this cache remains...but it's gonna be tough with two administrators putting their thumbs down...But who knows, maybe a kind gesture in light of a New Year dawning will turn the tide...good luck
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Oh well! Mr. Negative...
Mr. Negative, that's me!
This might be a better time of year to attempt them, with the PO somewhat less rampant.Speaking of being negative...
...just because you can't see the PO doesn't mean it can't get you. PO twigs, when they've dropped their leaves for the winter are very hard to recognize and yet, they are just loaded with urushiol. It's very easy to go through a thicket of PO without realizing it.
I speak from experience. You see, a couple of years ago, right around this time, there was a big puzzle series released by some guy (I can't remember who it was, but his caching name was an arctic creature: NorthernWalrus or PolarNarwhal or something like that...)
Anyway, in pursuit of one or more of the caches in this series, I got a nasty dose of PO that covered my entire body. My leg swelled up so badly that I had to go to Urgent Care. I went through three re-occurrences of the rash before I finally shook it off. And I never saw the PO that got me. I know the day, I know which of the series that I was searching for, but I do not know where it was that I ran into the PO.
So, if you do search for these caches (or any caches in areas where PO is common e.g. Tecolote Canyon, Marion Bear Park, Penasquitos Canyon, etc. ) do not become complacent just because the PO is "less rampant" this time of year. If anything, you are more likely to have a nasty encounter because, without its leaves, you might not see it coming...
I have seen the PO in full color in Tecolote Canyon! I would only go back in a full Hazmat outfit...
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Congrats to you folks with mega-numbers. I love walking the trails cleared by some of the greatest cachers here in sunny CA. (Yea, I know many of you are rated high in the country too.) I'm nearing my 500th and am looking for and adventurous cache for my milestone. Any ideas? Thanks.
Szar Foyo is more local and a great challenge....you can do it!
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Congrats to SD-Weiss for entry into the MTRP Hall of Fame!!! 
Way Cool! That is no simple feat!!! Congratulations!!!
Way to go !!!!!!!!!Yay!! Congrats, you two!! You did it!! Awesome!!! Fantabulous!!! Super Dooper!!! Great Work!! wow!!!
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Hold on here ... let's get back to the high heels and the cha-cha dress issue.
It was a year ago just before Christmas while I was walking through a shopping
mall and caught sight of a woman that was pushing a baby stroller and wearing
a simple but attractive black dress. Not a skirt, ... an actual dress. I stopped in
my tracks as she passed by, astonished ... at first I thought that I was having a
hallucination. Could it be, a woman wearing a dress rather than jeans and tee?
I sat down on a nearby bench and searched my memories, when last had I seen
a woman wearing a dress? It came to me, it was back in seventy-three, I'm sure
it was, one of those brown and orange and yellow mini-skirt ensembles like on
Sonny & Cher. My gawd, time sure flies, those were th' days my friend.
So, please ... the high heels and the cha-cha dress ... th-i-i-s close but K' had to
be a do-gooder and spoil my chance to see a photo of Barrie all decked out in high
heels and cha-cha dress. Why I oughta ...!
Hmmm. Well, when I go out for my Yrium cards ... I always try to be super stealth. You and Tom go to such great lengths to make these amazing cards; I certainly wouldn't want to compromise the integrity of the card location. This is the only picture I could find that even comes close to my Yrium Hunt Attire; so far, I don't think anyone has every photographed me there ... and I plan to keep it that way.
boysnbarrie
Barrie...We neeed to talk....
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Hold on here ... let's get back to the high heels and the cha-cha dress issue.
It was a year ago just before Christmas while I was walking through a shopping
mall and caught sight of a woman that was pushing a baby stroller and wearing
a simple but attractive black dress. Not a skirt, ... an actual dress. I stopped in
my tracks as she passed by, astonished ... at first I thought that I was having a
hallucination. Could it be, a woman wearing a dress rather than jeans and tee?
I sat down on a nearby bench and searched my memories, when last had I seen
a woman wearing a dress? It came to me, it was back in seventy-three, I'm sure
it was, one of those brown and orange and yellow mini-skirt ensembles like on
Sonny & Cher. My gawd, time sure flies, those were th' days my friend.
So, please ... the high heels and the cha-cha dress ... th-i-i-s close but K' had to
be a do-gooder and spoil my chance to see a photo of Barrie all decked out in high
heels and cha-cha dress. Why I oughta ...!
Hmmm. Well, when I go out for my Yrium cards ... I always try to be super stealth. You and Tom go to such great lengths to make these amazing cards; I certainly wouldn't want to compromise the integrity of the card location. This is the only picture I could find that even comes close to my Yrium Hunt Attire; so far, I don't think anyone has every photographed me there ... and I plan to keep it that way.
boysnbarrie
Barrie...We neeed to talk....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFDOI24RRAE
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Rats! no pictures of the high heels and the cha-cha dress?
Just wait 'til I find out who picked-up for you. K', was that you?
"Why hush my puppy! Would I do a thing like that?"
Ohh no! Maybe after all you did for me today, I could try to help YOU by finding you one
! I really appreciate how you helped me out today, mister kwvers! Whoops! Did I just spill the beans? Uh oh 
lesson learned....What's done in secret will be SHOUTED from the rooftops! [
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Introducing the Yrium TNG #13 Card - Geo Ocotillio Campout:
A decent supply (with the inevitable misprints) has been dropped in Max's Favorite Park.
Also, some very unique misprints (all different cards) seem to have made their way into Pink Panther.
Attaboy Tom, drop an Yrium-card on Sunday ... that should
trigger a mad dash to Max's Favorite Park. I can see it now,
BoysnBarrie rushing there after church services wearing her
finest Sunday-go-to-meeting high-heels and cha-cha dress.
One thing missing at Max's Favorite Park is an online Webcam.
There's a misprint in this set that seems an appropriate finale
to this year of zany San Diego Geocaching. Pretty much it
reveals what sort of minds are drawn to Geocaching. Don't
miss this misprint ... y'all will understand when y' see it.
It has been a great year for the Yrium cards, thanks ever-so
much to FlagMan's devotion and dedication. For my part it is
an honor to help keep Yrium's memory with us.
We are continually amazed at how both of you find the time and artistic fervor to complete these cards, such effort would gobble up almost all available caching time for normal folks. This is another great effort and so uniquely part of the San Diego community, thanks for all the hard work.
Hey everybody, look ... artistic fervor.
Does this mean that I've finally hit the big-time with my pal FlagMan?
To be honest it isn't work nor is it hard ... once your fingers learn all
about Photoshop then the rest is easy. Well, almost easy, the actual
hard part is discovering an appropriate concept for each Yrium-card.
You da man, Harmon!!
You da man, Tom!!!
I actually drove to get my cards today...They look real nice!
Can you believe next year will be #8 I was all dressed up in my Sunday best, high heels and cha cha dress, so that after church I could head to Max's on my way to Temecula. Imagine my surprise when I got a call on my cell informing me that 'someone' was on their way to Max's to pick up a card for me
. I am so thankful for my geo-buddies ... simply the best! boysnbarrieRats! no pictures of the high heels and the cha-cha dress?
Just wait 'til I find out who picked-up for you. K', was that you?
"Why hush my puppy! Would I do a thing like that?"
I'm still looking for TNG#11 - SKILLET..Anybody seen one in a cache lately?
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Introducing the Yrium TNG #13 Card - Geo Ocotillio Campout:
A decent supply (with the inevitable misprints) has been dropped in Max's Favorite Park.
Also, some very unique misprints (all different cards) seem to have made their way into Pink Panther.
Attaboy Tom, drop an Yrium-card on Sunday ... that should
trigger a mad dash to Max's Favorite Park. I can see it now,
BoysnBarrie rushing there after church services wearing her
finest Sunday-go-to-meeting high-heels and cha-cha dress.
One thing missing at Max's Favorite Park is an online Webcam.
There's a misprint in this set that seems an appropriate finale
to this year of zany San Diego Geocaching. Pretty much it
reveals what sort of minds are drawn to Geocaching. Don't
miss this misprint ... y'all will understand when y' see it.
It has been a great year for the Yrium cards, thanks ever-so
much to FlagMan's devotion and dedication. For my part it is
an honor to help keep Yrium's memory with us.
We are continually amazed at how both of you find the time and artistic fervor to complete these cards, such effort would gobble up almost all available caching time for normal folks. This is another great effort and so uniquely part of the San Diego community, thanks for all the hard work.
Hey everybody, look ... artistic fervor.
Does this mean that I've finally hit the big-time with my pal FlagMan?
To be honest it isn't work nor is it hard ... once your fingers learn all
about Photoshop then the rest is easy. Well, almost easy, the actual
hard part is discovering an appropriate concept for each Yrium-card.
You da man, Harmon!!
You da man, Tom!!!
I actually drove to get my cards today...They look real nice!
Can you believe next year will be #8 I was all dressed up in my Sunday best, high heels and cha cha dress, so that after church I could head to Max's on my way to Temecula. Imagine my surprise when I got a call on my cell informing me that 'someone' was on their way to Max's to pick up a card for me
. I am so thankful for my geo-buddies ... simply the best! boysnbarrieRats! no pictures of the high heels and the cha-cha dress?
Just wait 'til I find out who picked-up for you. K', was that you?
"Why hush my puppy! Would I do a thing like that?"
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Introducing the Yrium TNG #13 Card - Geo Ocotillio Campout:
A decent supply (with the inevitable misprints) has been dropped in Max's Favorite Park.
Also, some very unique misprints (all different cards) seem to have made their way into Pink Panther.
Attaboy Tom, drop an Yrium-card on Sunday ... that should
trigger a mad dash to Max's Favorite Park. I can see it now,
BoysnBarrie rushing there after church services wearing her
finest Sunday-go-to-meeting high-heels and cha-cha dress.
One thing missing at Max's Favorite Park is an online Webcam.
There's a misprint in this set that seems an appropriate finale
to this year of zany San Diego Geocaching. Pretty much it
reveals what sort of minds are drawn to Geocaching. Don't
miss this misprint ... y'all will understand when y' see it.
It has been a great year for the Yrium cards, thanks ever-so
much to FlagMan's devotion and dedication. For my part it is
an honor to help keep Yrium's memory with us.
We are continually amazed at how both of you find the time and artistic fervor to complete these cards, such effort would gobble up almost all available caching time for normal folks. This is another great effort and so uniquely part of the San Diego community, thanks for all the hard work.
Hey everybody, look ... artistic fervor.
Does this mean that I've finally hit the big-time with my pal FlagMan?
To be honest it isn't work nor is it hard ... once your fingers learn all
about Photoshop then the rest is easy. Well, almost easy, the actual
hard part is discovering an appropriate concept for each Yrium-card.
You da man, Harmon!!
You da man, Tom!!!
I actually drove to get my cards today...They look real nice!
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Hi, I would like to know how common it is for people to Keep Travel Bugs and Geo-coins that they find. I have come across sooooo many caches that say there are TB's / Geo-Coins in them, only to find they are not there. I have placed some that have traveled thousands of Miles and they still have not been 'replaced'. Personally I think that is not good Sportsmanship. If a TB has a goal/destination, I find it a thrill to be part of forwarding it on it's journey. If it doesn't have a specific goal, I will move it along where ever I think would be a good place for it to be picked up. Do you 'Keep' some favourite TBs you find? If so, doesn't that kind of spoil it for those who like honor the CO's wishes?
Keeping someone else's property is considered theft. And it definitely spoils the fun of the purpose of sending them out to travel.
Icons that show up on cache pages for TBs and coins that have long since not been in the cache can be moved to "missing" by either the owner of the traveler or the owner of the cache. But many people do not seem to know they can do this.
As for the cachers who may have your travelers but haven't released them back into a cache, a polite email asking them to do so can work wonders. Many people just forget they have them and need a gentle reminder to get them moving again.
I agree completely! I did try and message the people who have them but have had no response. It would be nice if all Cachers shared your (our) thoughts on this matter and moved them along.... just isnt always the case. Happy Caching.
we move them as quickly as possible
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Merry Christmas all of San Diego
I hope all of you are having an great Holiday season
Miss all of my caching family
I'm going through withdrawl....
This is John from somewhere......
We miss John,,,Thanks for serving! We even think you look good in green!
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We would like to invite all of you to join us as we honor the "Smack Down Crew." More details as we get closer...Can't wait to get together after the holidays...
Kwvers! Hush My Mouth, Smacked Down Celebration! by kwvers! (GC225A1)
California
can't wait for the event tommorrow! Hope to see everybody!!! GC21WWE
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We would like to invite all of you to join us as we honor the "Smack Down Crew." More details as we get closer...Can't wait to get together after the holidays...
Kwvers! Hush My Mouth, Smacked Down Celebration! by kwvers! (GC225A1)
California
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Happy Birthday boysnbarrie!!
Sorry I haven't learned how to get fancy with my fonts and stuff or I'd decorate the page a bit. I'm sure you'll get some festive shout-outs from the others.
Love you LOTS!
TIM
Happy Birthday Barrie!Happy Birthday Barrie! We love you!
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3hours 58 minutes left
Sitting here thinking and it occured to me that our cache GC17E9E hasn't been found since March 8th which is Mrs.Kwver's! birthday...no caches have been posted in our neighborhood today so for someone daring here is a 5 hour 50 minute challenge...Find GC17E9E before 12:01am 12/12/09...log it and take a picture of yourself and the log...and you win $20.00...First time finders only!
The party's over...goodnight
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This just in ...
Honk if you know where this is.
Father and ex-nun, get it?
honk honk!!!! now we know where you were today! Find a puppy?
Eleven finds, ice cream cone, dinner in Julian, apple pie on
the kitchen counter, lovely drive in the rain, seventy-five
photos, and a grand day out with my sweet bride. Terrific.
During dinner in Julian it was raining pretty hard outside.
When we finished I offered to dash out to the truck for an
umbrella remarking that as sugar-sweet as Sandy is she
would surely melt in the rain. ... eye-roll from Sandy.
For some reason I fail to understand a lot of women I know
give me that same treatment. What's a sweet ol' boy like me
have t' do t' get along with vine-ripened women?
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3hours 58 minutes left
Sitting here thinking and it occured to me that our cache GC17E9E hasn't been found since March 8th which is Mrs.Kwver's! birthday...no caches have been posted in our neighborhood today so for someone daring here is a 5 hour 50 minute challenge...Find GC17E9E before 12:01am 12/12/09...log it and take a picture of yourself and the log...and you win $20.00...First time finders only!
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For those of you who are not sitting down (or are driving for that matter), Wewilldo7 is posting to the forum! I wanted to find out what we've been missing for 2 years:-( We still love you guys! And for those who don't know it, we are coming to San Diego for a visit in a few weeks. We would love to see everyone. There's even an event planned GC21WWE (thanks Tom!) so we can see as many as possible in our short visit..
Oh, and I just posted the following to your cache page Jim! Let me know if you want me to delete it buahhahah..
"I was just getting re -acquainted with some of the goings on in San Diego and I came across a challenge from the kwvers! in the forum - (visit link) Wewere about to fly out early to claim the reward (again hehehe), but they were clear that it has to be first time finders only! So, if anyone needs help with this, (wewant to feel like we're still part of the wonderful San Diego caching community of which Mr. and Mrs kwvers! are prominent members) we are more than happy to offer any hints or help on this - and wewould do this for a mominal fee - say $20. That's right, weare here to help find this cache for a small fee of 19.99 if you call now! Small print = Weare not responsible for any mishaps resulting from searching for this cache - especially attempts made in the dark. second and third party checks will not be accepted. Thank you.
Bill of Wewilldo7 (Laurie does not want to be blamed for any of this Tomfoolery)"
Why I otta! you and your Mominal fee...Your Momma
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