Like the others have said, don't give up. I don't know if you have tried this, but while on a cache page, click on the actual map and it will change to a close up and give you an option for satellite view. Zoom all the way in and you will usually get a close view of where you need to go (unless it is all woods). Always check a cache listing prior to going out in the event it has been taken off line since the time you down loaded it. I have down loaded caches in advance and then not attempt them for a while only to find out it has been archived.I have also gone out with friends to sites they have been to before only to have them say it is missing, but to find out later it has been moved nearby, they had the old coordinates and I had the new. Before you know it you will always be thinking geo-caching. My folks just moved into a new house yesterday and couldn't find a few key boxes. Today, after helping them look through boxes in the garage, I was getting ready to leave and looked up at their car. I asked my dad for his keys to his trunk, and there they were. It's kind of that way once you have been doing it for a while. If you go out with someone, when you get close to ground zero, let your eyes do the work not the gps, or the other person will probably find it first. The key thing is to have fun. More times than not, the cache site is only a small part of the actual award. Enjoy the surroundings, the views, the plant and tree life, and or the structure of the guardrail, lamp post.... DaddyA