EraSeek

Let me tell you, I (Mr. USPS Mailman) delivered every address, every snow day, every letter, every package. The transition/slush day was the worst. Traction was next to nill!

No, I know it has no effect on GPS time, I did not say it did. But GPS is all about time. It is the worlds most effective, efficiant time transfer mechanism. Likewise is is not all about location. Every cell tower has multiple GPS antennas on it and they are not there for location. It was just a comment as to why the topic is relevant to us. Local noon is not set by boundaries. Local noon is when the sun is highest in the sky wherever you are. A spot, no range to it; but I agree with all else you said. Kinda like "metric", makes much more sense, but guess we aren't going there.

There is a proposal to eliminate the leap second which keeps our clocks in tune with the slowing rotation of the earth. First of all why would this concern GPS users? GPS is all about time, even more than location. Here is a short article on the proposal: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/20/science/the-leap-seconds-reprieve.html Now the US is for the idea, and Britain is against.One reason not mentioned that Britain may be against is that the sliding of local noon would take authority away from GMT, the world standard. Personally I would like to see the elimination of local time usage and have a world over use UTC coordinated universal time (basically Zulu time or GMT). The military already does this. Instead of adapting the clock to our area, we adapt to the clock, the same clock everyone uses. Gone would be Daylight saving time or standard time, gone would be all these varied and gerrymandered time zones the world round. No need for leap seconds unless you wished to keep the brits happy. Time would be and remain precise via the vibrations of the cesium atom or mercury ions to the accuracy of 1 second to every billion years or so. In one part of the world you would eat lunch at 10:00, another place it would be 19:00 (7pm). If this would confuse world travelers you could reference place names, coordinates, addresses, with a local noon tag which is quite simple and precise, say, 7600 main street, Seattle, Wa, 20:00 UTC. Crazy, dumb, good idea? But then I would like to see coordinates replace house addresses too... Just a thought.

A curse always adds monetary value. Consider the Hope Diamond $250,000,000: Jacques Colet bought the Hope Diamond from Simon Frankel and committed suicide. Prince Ivan Kanitovski bought it from Colet but was killed by Russian revolutionists. Kanitovski loaned it to Mlle Ladue who was "murdered by her sweetheart." Simon Mencharides, who had once sold it to the Turkish sultan, was thrown from a precipice along with his wife and young child Sultan Hamid gave it to Abu Sabir to "polish" but later Sabir was imprisoned and tortured. Stone guardian Kulub Bey was hanged by a mob in Turkey. A Turkish attendant named Hehver Agha was hanged for having it in his possession. Tavernier, who brought the stone from India to Paris was "torn to pieces by wild dogs in Constantinople." King Louis gave it to Madama de Montespan whom later he abandoned. Nicholas Fouquet, an "Intendant of France", borrowed it temporarily to wear it but was "disgraced and died in prison." A temporary wearer, Princess de Lamballe, was "torn to pieces by a French mob." Jeweler William Fals who recut the stone "died a ruined man." William Fals' son Hendrik stole the jewel from his father and later committed suicide." Some years (after Hendrik) "it was sold to Francis Deaulieu, who died in misery and want." Source: The New York Times, January 29, 1911 Perhaps you should add a few more derailments.

If you remove it from the powered mount and hold the power button in, past the white screen phase, for about 20 seconds, the gps will turn itself off, and it seems to reboot normally from then on in the powered mount for subsequent off/on cycles. If you remove the battery from the gps as a way of getting out of the failed restart, it seems to continue the flawed behaviour but if you do the power button shutdown, it seems ok from then on... But in order to do the power button shutdown, the gps needs to be off the cradle, unpowered by the mount. Have you tried the instructions above? They worked for me. Sorry this does not solve the issue. I still have it. I have noticed that if you leave the GPS in the cradle it drains the battery that came with the unit. If you remove it, the battery is not drained. Wonder if there is a connection here.

Article in WSJ: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204409004577159252588307324.html

Hey thanks for the info. I've had this a few times. I'll try your solution. Please ignore the rudeness of some people. Lets work together for helpful ways to overcome problems.

Welcome! Man that puppy is cute!

I always enjoy a bit of levity

GPS, relatively speaking: http://dvice.com/archives/2011/10/speedy-neutrino.php

Watched it. Great stuff!

Hey, I stumbled on the book yesterday and bought it. A good detailed chapter on cacheing - and he also discribes a cache that I just found. Looks good!

I'm stuggling to find where I fall here with my opinion, so let me sort it out in public. I have been around since early '01, I don't recall a big fuss about people replacing caches. Maybe there was and I don't remember. Calling cache maintainence (replacement) by someone else a "throwdown" seem a bit overly derogatory; intentions were good. All that being said, I think one shouldn't replace a cache for someone if it is simply not found, or ESPECIALLY just to log a find. If there is clear evidence that the cache destroyed (finding pieces), or is absolutely missing where there is no doubt, I think it is OK. In the first case (Pieces) logging is OK, in the second case I'm not sure about the logging part. I have had people replace my caches before, and for the most part I felt it helpful. There have been times when people replaced it when they shouldn't have (there was no absolute evidence that it was gone) and times when I have ended up with mutiible boxes; in that case I simple went and removed the extra at my convienece. No huge deal. So I guess where I fall is I apprecieate the help, but ONLY if there is UNDISPUTED evidence that it is kaput. In fact, I'm going to change my mind right now and say: If you find pieces of a destroyed cache, replace it and log it; if nothing is found, don't replace, just log a DNF and leave it to the owner. Yup, that's my position and I'm sticking to it. )

What Fizzy said. Also remember that Challenges are a different ballgame. They now allow the creator to be listed (which I feel is important), but there is no owner, no start date, few/no guidelines. If you've done it, you've done it. If you want to make guidelines/rules/requirements for the challenge you can do it, just put it in text when you create the challenge. There is no first to find, only first to list a completion. I think to make Challenges work we really have to disconect our thinking from caching, and create what "you" want when you create the page. Want requirements, list them. Want no pre-completions, say that. Its wide open to interpetation unless you state it. I'm sure things will evlove as we go.

I think everyone has good intentions here on the forums (other than those that are just here to argue for the "fun" of it). I'm a big fan of civility as well as freedom to explore ideas. As far as I see it, caches should not be replaced without the CO's consent. There are good reasons for that. ~In this case where a string of theft is obvious and known, perhaps it would be OK without that. Not sure yet. Still mulling that one over.

For the record, I have been some flavor of law enforcement since 1982. I have never laughed at the victim of a theft. Of the hundreds of cops I know personally, I can't think of a single one who has ever laughed at a theft victim. I don't suppose you have any references you could cite for this rather insulting claim? I suppose that, depending on how an officer interprets their state's particular theft statute, they might tell you that your complaint doesn't meet the elements of the offense, and/or they might tell you that there is practically no chance of catching the perpatrator, but I seriously doubt that they would laugh at you. If they do, ask for a business card and contact me. I'll guide you through the process of making sure they never laugh at another victim, while acting as a public serrvant. If your idea of "trap" involves punji sticks, you may be right. But what if your definition of "trap" was to place a few game cameras? Not sure how capturing an image of an individual committing a crime in a public place would get you in trouble. Goodness, I don't know how you got that I was insulting police officers out of that! It was a statement that there would be little or no validity to claiming "theft" on a box in the woods, that's all. Nothing so literal was intended.

Exactly! Just as I just posted on the general forums: "Listen. In my view there is only one thing you can do to deal with this. Screaming the guy's name on the forums will probably just make him a happy renegade. Turn in a police report and you'll just get laughed at. Talking to him will be no better than talking across the aisle in congress. Setting a trap will just get you in trouble. Annoying as it is there is only one way to win in the end here: Replace the caches as soon as possible, as many times as it takes. A group response of volunteers would be most effective."

Listen. In my view there is only one thing you can do to deal with this. Screaming the guy's name on the forums will probably just make him a happy renegade. Turn in a police report and you'll just get laughed at. Talking to him will be no better than talking across the aisle in congress. Setting a trap will just get you in trouble. Annoying as it is there is only one way to win in the end here: Replace the caches as soon as possible, as many times as it takes. A group response of volunteers would be most effective.

Awesome!

Has it been said already? Humans. (actually, a grizzly once.)

Listen, it is very simple. Integrity. Integrity of the game, integrity of the cache, and most of all self-integrity. Integrity: adherence to moral and ethical principles; soundness of moral character; honesty. If you prefer a stated "rule" here it is: Logging an Eraseek cache requires you make your mark on a logsheet in any of my traditional caches. Frankly I think many of you just like to argue to argue. Do I check my logsheets? Generally no. I simply rely on your integrity.

Signing the logbook is one of the key actions when finding a Geocache, at least according to most cachers, and the guidelines. While I think relatively few cache owners audit the logbooks, there are some who do. Just be prepared if you don't sign the physical logbook, to get a few finds deleted. If you're ok with that, then cool. Otherwise you might want to either sign the logbooks, or just not log the caches online. If you want to keep a record of your finds then you could always post a note instead of a "found it" log on those caches where you don't sign the logbook. I totally agree. (by the way I don't trade swag either). I'm not being mean, but not leaveing your sig in the cache means it is not a find by you. It is the one thing that is a must in my book and most veteran cachers. If you don't take the time or effort to sign the log, please don't try and log it as a find. If you see it but can't retrieve it, well I put it out of reach for a reason; it is suppose to be a challenge! Can't log it, then don't! Log a note or a DNF instead. Numbers aren't everything. If it's too risky or dangerous for your ability, please don't risk it, you health and wellbeing is not worth any cache find. Sometimes the journey is the real purpose of the cache anyway, so enjoy the day, don't obsess on your stats. Nobody really cares that much about yours, just their own. But the one thing I do care about is the integrity of the game and my caches. So please sign the log or don't log it as a find.

If I don't sign the log in your cache its a note or a DNF. If you don't sign the log in my cache its a note or a DNF, or it gets deleted. I put the darn thing just out of reach for a reason! Aren't able to do it?, then don't. Log a DNF or a note. I really don't see a solution for assuring a true find, other than the logbook and what someone admits to on the cache post.

OK, I'm still not seeing what you say is there. I did find this by Jeremy in the "The Eurka Moment" blog: "What are the guidelines for issuing a challenge? Unlike caches, there aren’t any official guidelines" Maybe you could point out what you think people are missing on guidlines and rules. I looked in the Knowledge books and FAQ. Not much there.

Yes, sorry, you are right they are part of geocaching, or rather as you say an extention. And I think it should be if it is going to work. Not another seperate game. I have looked at the FQA several times and did not see a whole lot there on rules and guidelines. Maybe you see more when you create a challenge which I have not done yet.