Azisbest

That's still "cutesy argot," as well as being inaccurate. How about "people?" As in, "I knew where it was as soon as I drove into the parking lot, but I had to wait for some people to leave the area before I could grab it and sign the log." Civilian in this case is perfectly accurate, one of the definitions is someone considerded an outsider by a profession or special interest group. If you think civilian is cutesy, then we will have to agree to disagree on that point. However, the accuracy part is not debatable, you are wrong.

I hate cutesy argot. How about civilians?

Hey, I am a little miffed you found at least one of mine and didn't favorite it. LOL.

DNF = Did Not Find. I log all caches that I do not find as DNF, many users will not. I will always give a user that logs one of my caches DNF a hint if they contact me and ask. Sorry, that was my poor attempt at humor.

I had heard of this phenomenon, so I guess it really does happen. Some folks can't find every cache? By the way I see the acronym DNF used, any help as to its meaning?

This was expected. But with an audience of fawning sycophants and the mod wielding the big stick, my cause is lost. I shall take my leave, tata (key poignant music).

Terrible suggestion. Horrible. Thank you, no. It's because we have mods that I can't say what I really think of that suggestion! Be glad we have them! It is a very good suggestion, because you don't agree does not make it bad. Feel free to say what you think of it, I have broad sholders, you wont make me tremble with trepidation. This is precisely what I am talking about, a free flow of ideas. And by the way your thanks were neither sought nor needed. LOL

Terrible suggestion. Horrible. Thank you, no. It's because we have mods that I can't say what I really think of that suggestion! Be glad we have them! It is a very good suggestion, because you don't agree does not make it bad. Feel free to say what you think of it, I have broad sholders, you wont make me tremble with trepidation. This is precisely what I am talking about, a free flow of ideas. And by the way your thanks were neither sought nor needed.

And how about getting rid of all the forum moderators? I think most of us are capable of deciding if a thread is interesting or important enough to hold our attention. Profanity can be contained with software so the little kiddies won't be mentally scarred for life (although I am thinking that if they can navigate to these pages they might also be capable of finding an obscenity somewhere online). I have been to many forums sans moderators and they seem to work well. Let the participants decide when to end a thread.

Moderators while drunk with power closing a thread without good reason. If its not seditious, salacious, or damaging to the site, let a thread die a natural death. As soon as people are bored with a topic they will move on of their own volition.

Whats the big deal about being able to draw a good circle?

For ya'alls edification, 80 degrees here today. I'm tired of the brutal winter.

For the obvious reason.

I have not broken out the long pants yet......

I've run into bow hunters a few times. They are usually in heavy camo and hard to spot. A few years ago I was looking for a place to hide a cache. I was wandering way off trail and had the urge to make like a bear. After I was done, while pulling up my pants I noticed some yellow stuff on the ground (corn) about 20 feet away. Then I noticed a camouflage ladder and my eyes followed it up and there in the tree was a bow hunter. He observed my bathroom break without saying a word. I previously encountered a bow hunter while looking for a spot for a cache. I was right under him and heard someone clear his throat. Looked up and he was right above me. oh man I can't stop laughing. Make like a bear, thats rich. I am surprised you did not find the comment risque or non kid friendly and want it banned.

Really? Someone is in such a dither that they had to whine over something as inane as this? Some of you people amaze me. Dont get your undergarments constricted, K?

It only got to 67 degrees here today with a brisk 2mph wind gusting to 5mph. But I still had the wherewithal to brave the elements and has a sucessful hunt on a tough 1/1 in a nearby shopping center parking lot. I neither expect, nor want kudos for my efforts. I just wanted to show that winter caching is indeed possible. No thanks necessary.

A lame hide is one thing, but there are some caches that put the entire game at risk, i.e. caches hidden on private property without permission, or caches that causes property damage. Asking that a cache owner have some rudimentary knowledge of acceptable cache hiding practices isn't snivelling. Your post, on the other hand... My post might have been a diatribe, but hardly a snivel. The original post was a rant about bad coordinates vis a vis newbies, not illegal hides. I thought I might stay with the original topic. Of course one must follow the rules, but even a neophyte can read the rules and follow them. Incorrect or soft coordinates aren't just a nuisance. There is always some amount of trampling and other assorted damage at the site of acache, and when multiple cachers have to increase their search radius because of bad coordinates, a larger area gets damaged. A neophyte *can* read the rules, but many of them don't. Putting up a couple of road blocks that make it more difficult for new cachers to ignore the rules could improve things a bit without placing limitations based on number of hides. Incorrect or soft coordinates are a very legitimate issue, a peeve of mine as well. But bad cords are put out there just as often by experienced cachers, and the op was talking about lame hides anyway. And as I stated I was trying to stay on topic. Whether a person. new or experienced. reads the rules we have no control over. However, they are there for their perusal.

I think Dale Jr. was thinking about it but his GPS isn't working properly. He can't even find the finish line. Dale Jr. Has anyone in the history of ANY sport gained more notoriety, more adulation, more money while at the same time accomplishing less than he? Any nominations??? I doubt it.

A lame hide is one thing, but there are some caches that put the entire game at risk, i.e. caches hidden on private property without permission, or caches that causes property damage. Asking that a cache owner have some rudimentary knowledge of acceptable cache hiding practices isn't snivelling. Your post, on the other hand... My post might have been a diatribe, but hardly a snivel. The original post was a rant about bad coordinates vis a vis newbies, not illegal hides. I thought I might stay with the original topic. Of course one must follow the rules, but even a neophyte can read the rules and follow them.

Again, this is not brain surgery. New folks to geocaching can and should hide too. Look at the co's history and don't seek if you dont like his or her's qualifications. Quit pretending hiding a cache is a lost art or something. Jeez I don't like looking for one film cannister in a hollowed out rock among a truckful of rocks either, but some people do. Quit sniveling.

I hid my first cache when I had found about 30 or so, and I have had nothing but compliments in the logs. One cacher with over 4000 finds even stated my first cache hidden was in his top five nationwide. So don't be intimidated by those with a mega number of finds saying that only those who have vast experience can do a good cache, thats just so much piffle. Follow the rules, have fun, and enjoy the hobby, it is not rocket science.

Congrats hawk, you hit the nail on the head. Why did you bring me here? It could be a great view, an interesting historcal object, a clever hide, a nice bauble, anything that makes me glad I took the time. Any one of these factors raise a cache above the lame level.

Global climate change is 100% a fact. It is not debatable by anyone with a modicum of knowledge. Furthermore global climate change will always be occuring, as it always has in the past. Now have humans caused a rift in this normally occuring phenomena? That is most assuredly debatable.