Roman!
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I repeat:
From another thread:
When I was a kid we played street hockey in our cul-de-sac and there was a grumpy old man who always sat on his front lawn and yelled at us whenever we shot the ball onto his yard. All my friends were scared to go retrieve it so I always did, in fact sometimes I even purposely shot the ball onto his lawn.
Deep down I know he liked me because I gave him something to do, a purpose in life and I truly believe he lived longer and happier.
What do you folks think is happening here? Just walk away and let Roman! play his silly game by himself.
The answer to your question is clear. Roman! has given us something to do, a purpose in life, and I truly believe we will live longer and be happier because of this thread.
Don't you feel the *energy* brewing inside you?!
You're gonna take the world by the tail tomorrow, kiddo!Alright, a quick technical point. The *guideline* says return cache to original location. The intent is to avoid taking it home or rehiding elsewhere. The *CO* of a power trail has the right to say - & does say! - that any similar container returned to the correct coords constitutes returning the cache. Therefore, legit.
LOL,
Can you imagine what this forum would be like if everyone agreed?
Cacher A: I hate power trails.
Cacher B: Yeah, me too.
Cacher C: Me three, they're so lame.
Cacher D: I used to walk 10 miles to school in the snow everyday and it was uphill both ways.
Cacher E: Yeah me too, 10 miles and I hate power trails.
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I don't understand. What do you want that's different than "do not show me unknown caches"? I know you're focused on challenge caches, and I know you want to turn them on or off, but what I don't understand is what makes challenge caches with their ALRs different than any other unknown cache for the purposes of filtering
There is nothing that makes challenge caches different from any other unknown for the purposes of filtering. Which is why they cannot be filtered separately. Implementation of the challenge stars feature would alleviate that.
why does anyone that doesn't meet the requirement want to find a challenge cache to begin with?They do it all the time. Many cachers who are going to attempt a challenge will pre-sign the log on the cache when they find it, then post a Note log type. Implementation of the challenge stars feature would allow a proper Found It instead of the note. Then when the requirements of the challenge have been fulfilled, they can log the Challenge Completed log type.
Many cachers who get their smiley will not go out of their way to complete a challenge rendering the challenge pointless and the harder the challenge the less anyone will do it. The less people complete the challenge the less COs will place them, you'll just end up with a bunch of challenges everyone prequalifies for, where's the challenge in that?
I find it sad how people feel they deserve everything while working for nothing.
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If TCM was to become allowed in the guidelines, than the basic premise of geocaching would be changed. I don't see this happening as geocaching has never been about numbers. Once power trails start interfering with traditional caching, I see them going the way of location-less and virtual caches. I for one would not start trying to bend the rules (and encourage others) to boost my find count or you might ruin power trails for the rest of us that follow the guidelines.
Don't puzzle caches that require long hours on the computer change the premise of geocaching, what about events, earthcaches, they all do. Things change, get over it, why do you think PTs are thriving? Maybe a large number of people enjoy them.
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I say go for it. As I said in my post, play the way that makes you happy. I happen to like traditional caches and have no interest in find counts.
But you criticize those who cache differently.
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I dislike micros in general and and if you add a power trail I'm really going to get bored and have no interest in geocaching. To be fair I tried a PT once that was about 11/2 miles long and stopped after about the 4th micro thrown in the bushes. I really didn't see the point of going on. Years ago I did a multi cache in the forest and would rate it as one of my favorite caches. This cache was well though out and was placed years before numbers became important. If I played for numbers I would miss out on what's going on around me. We all play the way that makes us happy, that what gives us so many choices.
And why can't someone that enjoys the numbers aspect of the game find a multi in a forest too?
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Karma?
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No clue
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No clue.
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There really is no definition of a power trail, to me it must have these traits:
At least 100 caches, preferably 500+
Route must be drivable.
All caches must be as near as possible to the road.
All caches must be hidden in a similar manner and easy to find.
Containers must be film pots or something similar.
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As Mark Twain said 'Geocaching is a good walk spoiled'
Or at least something like that....
That's golf and only if you're doing it wrong.
Any recommendations on a new putter? This is the golf thread, right?
The point is that •feeling• rushed is different for each person. Solution? Cache at the pace that makes you happiest.
It not the putter it's the puttee.
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If it's taking you 11.4 minutes between caches seems you should have lots of time to enjoy the scenery and photographs. Ive done all sorts of power trails, by car, by bike, by foot and I have never not had the time to enjoy my surroundings or to take pictures of everything I wanted, mind you I never actually set a target number and even if I had I wouldn't rush myself to hit it.
I'd think that most people wouldn't notice much of their surroundings when they set a goal like this for themselves. Their mind is set on reaching the goal so they're watching the clock, the distance left, and the numbers they're getting in hopes of finishing in time. Most everything else comes in second.
Not my kind of fun at all but many people seem to like doing it.
Maybe the problem then is the goal, my record is 768 caches in one day, we took a 2 hour nap in the middle after checking into our hotel and had a nice lunch. I probably took 200 pictures during the day as well and at no point did we ever feel rushed as we really had no goal of how many to find.
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As Mark Twain said 'Geocaching is a good walk spoiled'
Or at least something like that....
That's golf and only if you're doing it wrong.
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If it's taking you 11.4 minutes between caches seems you should have lots of time to enjoy the scenery and photographs. Ive done all sorts of power trails, by car, by bike, by foot and I have never not had the time to enjoy my surroundings or to take pictures of everything I wanted, mind you I never actually set a target number and even if I had I wouldn't rush myself to hit it.
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why do you want puzzle caches in your PQ but not challenge caches?
I don't want that -- I want a PQ or map filter of just Challenges.
The simple solution and for the life of me I can not being to comprehend why GS has not done this is a different icon for challenge caches.
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Yes, I am doing challenges for the fact they are fun and they give me a smiley, if they stop being fun or stop giving me a smiley I will stop doing them as I have no interest in collecting challenge stars.
I think maybe you might not understand how this feature suggestion works.
You will still get your smiley when you sign the log. Fun is still had.
It is your choice whether or not to post the Challenge Completed log type, which is what gives the stars.
I get the sense that it might be even more fun for you to complete the challenge, sign the log, get the smiley and not claim the stars, on principle.
your suggestion will not solve the issue of why GS placed the moratorium anyways .I am missing the part in this thread where I suggested it would?
So why change something that works just fine? (Obviously apart from the appeals)
Yes, I would not claim the stars, it would just be another traditional, by removing the need to complete the challenge you remove the carrot.
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Well for me they'd detract from the fun of challengesHow would they detract from the fun of challenges? Serious question. It wouldn't change the challenges themselves in any way. It would only change how they are quantified in your profile stats.I like the fact that to log a challenge cache you must complete the challenge it add a fun element to the game for me but lazy Roman would not go out of his way to complete a challenge for some star when he already got the smiley.
Confused frinklabs is wondering if you are doing challenges because they are fun or because you want the smiley?
I also do not like the idea of a second scoreboardWhat is the first scoreboard?
Using the Challenge Stars to keep score would be a sub-component of their features. Like the extant D/T rating, they could be used to filter and select challenges that are at a preferred level.
Yes, I am doing challenges for the fact they are fun and they give me a smiley, if they stop being fun or stop giving me a smiley I will stop doing them as I have no interest in collecting challenge stars.
your suggestion will not solve the issue of why GS placed the moratorium anyways .
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When I'm driving in the car, I try to have the unit powered externally.
Are you saying the USB cable I use to load the 450 will charge it also?
No, it'll run the unit so you're not using your batteries.
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Well for me they'd detract from the fun of challenges and leave nothing to be desired.
How would they detract from the fun of challenges? Serious question. It wouldn't change the challenges themselves in any way. It would only change how they are quantified in your profile stats.
...and that last part..."leave nothing to be desired"...not sure what that's supposed to mean. The phrase "leaves something to be desired" may have been what you were going for there...
I'll address the last part first, I was just trying to use the keywords from the quoted post, detract and desire, you weren't supposed to catch on.
I like the fact that to log a challenge cache you must complete the challenge it add a fun element to the game for me but lazy Roman would not go out of his way to complete a challenge for some star when he already got the smiley. I also do not like the idea of a second scoreboard, a challenge star scoreboard makes no sense to me in this site.
Kind of helps separate the challenge junkies from those who only want to find a cache, eh? I have no problem with that.
I wouldn't call myself a challenge junkie, I enjoy all sorts of caches and challenge caches are just one of them and I enjoy them just the way they are as many others do.
I think most people would take the path of least resistence and they'd only log the challenge as well if they prequalified, I think very few people would actually go out of their way to finish of a challenge after they got their smiley.
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Miles 5105.19364
Kilometers 8216.01275
Nautical Mi. 4436.29198
Yards 8985140.80
Meters 8216012.75
Feet 26955422.4
Hawaii - Maine.
Oops, those are my finds, not hides, I'd say about 5 miles
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Well for me they'd detract from the fun of challenges and leave nothing to be desired.
How would they detract from the fun of challenges? Serious question. It wouldn't change the challenges themselves in any way. It would only change how they are quantified in your profile stats.
...and that last part..."leave nothing to be desired"...not sure what that's supposed to mean. The phrase "leaves something to be desired" may have been what you were going for there...
I'll address the last part first, I was just trying to use the keywords from the quoted post, detract and desire, you weren't supposed to catch on.
I like the fact that to log a challenge cache you must complete the challenge it add a fun element to the game for me but lazy Roman would not go out of his way to complete a challenge for some star when he already got the smiley. I also do not like the idea of a second scoreboard, a challenge star scoreboard makes no sense to me in this site.
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Well for me they'd detract from the fun of challenges and leave nothing to be desired.
Last thing we need is another screen scoreboard.
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just wondering, who's going to publish challenge caches with challenge stars? Cachers, same problem, lots of appeals for denied submissions? Groundspeak, thought they were trying to create less work, not more. Your idea does not solve the problem that resulted in the moratorium.
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Unfortunately I've found that even though my email link is available, even some cachers who have emailed me before and have my actual email address use the MC now. It's definitely my last choice if it keeps working as it does now, but it's the first contact method from many people now.
Groundspeak has publicly invited everyone to use the Message Center to check it out. If that's a huge problem for you, you'll need to individually tell people to stop that.
However the truth is that most people who now use the message center for contacting other cachers about something specific did not do it to try out the system or because they like the system, but just because they clicked at the same link as before but just with the difference that the new link leads to the MC and the old one sends the messages via e-mail. None of those who contacted me via the MC this week did it with the special wish to use the MC.
At the time when the MC was new but there was no link on the profile and on the cache page, I only received test messages that were indeed intended to be sent via the MC and I also sent out some messages for the same reason.
I cannot help myself but it looks to me like Groundspeak is doing that intentionally to trick as many people into using the MC as possible.
I'm not critizing that the MC exists, but the way it is sold to the cachers. Groundspeak does not appear to be willing to make a move towards reducing the number of usages of the MC which have not been intended.
This brings us back to this release and the release notes. One of the new features of this release they proudly announced is that they added a link to the message center to each cache page.
Without this change there would hardly exist any replies to the first post about the release.
It would be a huge improvement to either have no link to a message system on the cache pages or two clearly marked links (one to e-mail and one to the beta MC). The current situation is very unfortunate and is not in any way related to being able to contact cachers via the MC who cannot be contacted in other ways. It rather makes me feel that Groundspeak wants to decide what geocachers have to use and have to like.
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I have sanyos pro eneloops and get 8.5 hours out of them in an Oregon 550.
You're gonna take the world by the tail tomorrow, kiddo!
Saving this for reference, three cache monte approved.
in General geocaching topics
Posted · Edited by Roman!
Oops was going to add on to a post that seems to have been deleted.
Anyways I think I retire from these forums, it's lost its appeal for me.