Ok, how about $4.99 per year. The point of my post was not that I will "try the competition". There is no competition to geocaching.com, really. That's what makes this so hard to digest. The maps in my area are now useless on the computer, and I live in one of the 50 largest cities in the nation with fiber-optic internet. I don't have a gps, I use the geocaching ap on my android phone (which I paid $9.99 for). The live map feature on that is flawed, too, because you have to constantly hit refresh to find caches around you. If you are travelling in a car, forget it. C:Geo had an excellent live map feature, which was the only thing I used it for, but that was killed, too. We do this hobby because it is fun to do, but my kids are not yet old enough to be able to look them up on their own, and I don't have the time to find ways around the current problems to find them, either. My only option right now is to run pocket queries, but that does no good when we are on the road. I'm not threatening anything. I'm simply stating that anything that goes backwards in technology doesn't last very long. My prediction is that geocaching will still be around, but geocachers will move on if it becomes too much of a hassle to do the hobby any more. If only the new maps worked correctly, there would be no issues. No one ever said "Go back to Google Maps or we quit". How would you feel if Ford recalled all of their vehichles and replaced CD players with 8-track players? You probably would quit buying Fords.