Bill & Tammy

I agree, the final is a bit too close to stage 1, I go into "ground zero searching mode" when my GPSr is in that range and often put it away within 25 feet. I would archive the cache and start over to be fair to your previous finders.

Both of them. I have two moving caches listed on that site (the site which name must not be uttered), didn't realize I had the distinction of owning the only traveling caches in existence

Without the required information (the cache coordinates) and the prerequisite device (a GPSr) one would be pretty hard pressed to even that a cache or a number of caches were present in their enviroment. When I first discovered geocaching I suddenly became aware of several caches that were along trails I had travelled often but had no idea these things existed out there. Most geocaches, unlike litter are very cleverly hidden and blend in with their surrounds and do not present any kind of eyesore. I can think of many more leisure activities that leave a much greater human footprint in the enviroment than geocaching.

As posted by a Tennessee Reviewer onto our local Forum for the Kentucky-Tennessee Area Geocachers: I hate to see them go, as I've done many great cemetery caches in TN. According to this however, we are now lumped in with criminal hooligans there for destructive or disturbing reasons. I doubt Geocaching itself was the motive behind the law, but it still falls into that category, and Reviewers cannot publish new caches within Tennessee cemeteries. Sometimes while visiting a local older cemetary (the kind the markers aren't flush with the ground like with the new ones) my kids would engage in what I thought was a harmless game of hide-and-go-seek while I tended to my families' graves.... so now in Tennessee according to this, they would now be criminals?

With of course placing micros in woods being the most egregious offence.

Interesting, I have heard it claimed in these forums that a placed cache is fair game for a FTF and that publishing or not has nothing to do with its' ability to be logged. But, I do agree if a reviewer got a FTF on a cache that he/she reviewed it might look a litte unbecoming.

My favorite FTF prize so far has been an unregistered geocoin, I am sure most would appreciate one.

Back on topic and in direct response to the OP's query: I have a cache at a purportedly haunted location: Molly's Hollow Atchison Kansas has a number of believed to be haunted locations, so much so they even do a bus tour of them.

Whenever the subject of Waymarking is brought up there always seems the same, few staunch defenders of it on the forums expousing its' "merits", which also seems to be made up by quite a few moderators. But as with the previous poster, when I talk to locall cachers most enjoy virtuals and many are in favor of them being restored. Also, if this any indication of the "popularity" of Waymarking the last posting to the WMIng dedicated forum was Dec. 9th at the time of this posting, while most other forums receive new post and interest daily. Sure, many virtuals were "out of control" but there are also some really, really bad traditional caches out there too.

How about creating a DVD/CD/VHS library cache where only these items are traded for? I have seen it done before and it does make an interesting themed cache.

Purple Heart Don't know what this has to do with caching though.

I don't know, but in the future to be on the safe side I will be having my attorney accompany me on all future caching expeditions: "Counselor, will I incur any potential liability in approaching and inspecting this cache?" Wonder what his fees will be?

How about: I'm With the Muggle <--------------------

Although I live a couple hours away at the Lake of The Ozarks, I'd be more than happy to meet up with you for some caching when you come out. Bill of B&T

This just in: Briansnat has been detained by authorities for impersonating a LEO.

In my own experience I have never found a PVC pipe cache that was dry at the time I found it or had never experienced water damage in the past. In most cases the logbook was a moldy mess and the contents were fouled. However, it does help it seems to invert the PVC cache with the cap down to keep moisture from going directly into the threading when hiding or rehiding. They may work in some dryer climates, but not here in the Midwest US. And as Kewaneh points out they do look too much like a pipe bomb.

If this is open to cachers/reviewers my vote is for Missouri Glenn, I can't think of hardly anyone who has given more of their time and energies to promote caching in my area. Besides putting up with my lame and always on-the-brink of being legal cache submissions.

I was always taught never to discuss religion, politics or....... who has the most finds around the Thanksgiving Day table.

So, has anyone actually calculated the atomic half-life of a thread that has gone off-topic?

I placed a 1.0 terrain cache some time ago with the above mentioned considerations in mind. Being without the need of mobility assistance myself though I had to imagine the movements and challenges one would face who was needing a wheelchair. I ended up placing the cache at wheelchair heighth and on a paved and nearly level surface. I also recognize folks that require chairs have vast degrees of ability. Some I am sure could even whoop my butt in an off-trail scramble I am quite confident. Early on I think there were quite a few 1.0 terrain caches around that weren't entirely accessible to the physically challenged, but this situation is getting better I think.

I don't know about anyone else but I do perform a rather comprehensive enviromental impact study before placing any cache. Just kidding of course, but I do mention in the cache description about any natural feature that may be harmed in looking for the cache and how to avoid damage (i.e. don't climb on the rocks etc. to reach the cache).

Can you support that assertion? I would be really interested in your proof. Otherwise you owe her an aplogy. Ed Hmmm... CCC logs 15...yes, count 'em 15 "finds" on the same cache... "Do Your Homework" - GCRDBH Taken from this post in this thread... What say you now, Alabama boy? I rest my case. I have said the following before and will repeat it again in this case: Since the pursuit of geocaching has no official sanctioning body what does it matter anyway? We all play the game in the manner we enjoy personally. And as far as the "rules" set forth on this cache publishing service there is nothing about logging a find more than once, and the current system does certainly allow it. Oh and A&T, I don't know if you meant calling the gentleman "boy" as a tongue-in-cheek remark, but next time it wouldn't hurt showing a little more respect for your elders.

Apart from encountering property owners or the authorities what the heck business of anyone else's is it what I am doing? I have the privilege of wandering around public lands enjoying the flora and fauna, aimlessly if I wish and in some places even nude if I wish. What does it matter to anyone else? I also probably wouldn't hand out a brochure on the topic of geocaching unless that information was requested. Why do we think we are any different than anyone else in public and must offer an explanation of our presence?

I will agree wholeheartedly with the OP's main complaint. Of course we hear so much lately about how micros are affecting the quality of the game, but it seems like when one does encounter an ammo can cache the contents are less than pleasing. I have just moved to a new area and am busy logging the nearest caches. One positive thing I am finding is that at least around here, the majority of the caches are regular sized. However, I was very disappointed to find that most of the swag had degenerated into pocket trash over time. I even noticed in a recent log at a cache that a finder had taken a very nice item left by the cache's sponsor (property owner not cache owner) and was brazen enough even to say had they left nothing in trade. I really don't knnow if the answer may be education or it is just a culture and mindset. I have been putting off placing an amendment to my ownn cache's description's about the "rules" of trading but probably will do so in short order. Guess I am just tired of seeing my own caches be a free grab bag to those cachers who are less than generous and fair, but I question if even doing that will have an affect.

... and while you are at it why not drain it and put some punji sticks in the bottom.... jeeeesh. as the wise man said above, stay clear of that sucker.