careygang

I'm not surprised! Not exactly obvious is it. I looked at the page and thought "Next!'

Chudley can take it as the time difference is difficult during the working week

I'm thinking there is a clue in your remarks about the rugby team, though you've dented my theory by saying NO about Neil Armstrong. My theory was that if only one faceless person appeared, then by default it must be them. So, Gypsy Moth (whatever the number) going around the world would have been a stamp of a yacht with only one person depicted, therefore Sir Francis Chichester. My other guess would have been Neil Armstrong on the moon in a space suit !! , because Sir Edmund Hillary up Everest would have been the 1950s!! Actually, you said the rule was broken twice - was that only one person per stamp?

Pretty manky looking. Hard to tell the 'true value' without pictures of the insides or the catch mechanism, but Ammo Boxes can be as manky looking as anything and yet still be in good waterproof condition. Especially if you are going to paint/cammo them... I wonder if the seller is aware of their desirability. Seems odd they are going as one big lot. 29 is a huge number for joe public who's not a cacher.

Oh dear we have a website glitch. The Bloranges OP is missing...

Whichever you get, you need the 'x' suffix to have the High Sensitivity Chip. E.g. Vista HCx

Which bit has confused you? The Yellow is the most basic to use so there are many of us here who have experience of it as a starter.

Hi and welcome. I don't want to overload you with info, so I'll keep this short. We survived OK with a Yellow for our first couple of hundred caches. The big thing is they only cope with 6 character names, and all newer caches have 7 characters. Not a problem if you enter them by hand, but once you get a cable to download them direct, it gets a little more complex, but still quite easy. That's something to cover when you get that far. Don't worry about maps, just use the 'Geocaching.com Google Map' link or one of the others, and print off the results, like this link Map example . It's more than enough for basic use. You could even switch to the satellite view. OS are only needed if you go into wild country!

Google it. Puts trying to get permission to hide a microcache in an SSSI car park into perspective! I kind of see what you are saying, but I don't want to open another can of worms ...

That is unless your name is Donald Trump! You would be able to get away with anything you like on an SSSI ??

I actually thought this was all a joke until I read Deceangi's explanation... I don't really see the point of the OP, despite the row of smiles. From the description given, this is clearly not a regular 'boating lake' and requires swimming or boating (with your own boat) to get to the island. I'm presuming it is pretty deserted normally, so why do all that before asking permission? Permission refused by land owner. Live with it. Move on.

They are north welsh Wales, somewhere near Tryfan in Snowdonia... I can remember walking the top of the Cauldron in the mid 70's when I was living near Chester.

Not another cave question... How about Hermit?

I think that one of geocaching's great strengths is also one of its problems. It is such a diverse thing that it is hard for Muggles to comprehend. Is it a sport or a pastime, or a hobby? Is it conducted in town, in the open countryside, on the flat or up mountains? Do you conduct it openly or in secret? You actually pay around 5 pounds for something, and then leave it unattended and complain/don't complain if/when it goes missing? You can undertake this activity in almost any country in the world, thanks to the benevolence of the US Military and their multi-billion dollar satellite system - all it costs you is upwards of 60 quid for a thing the size of a mobile phone. In fact it could be your phone. And you're looking for something that could be the size of a finger tip or as big as a bucket. Does that about sum it up when you explain it?

Just to put a different spin on the Blue Monday... USAF have Blue Monday... Sept 5th 2008 - WASHINGTON (AFPN) -- Beginning Sept. 8, Airmen now will be required to wear a combination of the blues uniform on Mondays. At a recent four-star conference, Air Force Chief of Staff Gen. Norton A. Schwartz discussed the issue with other senior leaders. "We all agreed that part of our image, culture and professionalism is instilled in our blues," General Schwartz said. Prior to Sept. 11, 2001, blues were the primary duty uniform for most Airmen. OK, so it's nothing to do with being depressed on Jan 19th, but it brings a smile to my face that the USAF have taken 7 years to realise that they need to take pride in themselves and this about the same time as UK MoD decreed that our Armed Forces should increase the public profile by wearing uniform in public after decades of a low profile policy. Back on topic - if anyone goes to Las Vegas for a holiday, try this one Home with a view, I can't say why, as that would be a spoiler, but it brings a smile to faces when you discover it.

Time for some levity... We've all seen the 'In Ivy' or the 'Base of tree', but has anyone got any other pointless or useless hints, be they too long, too cryptic or whatever. I realise this might become a bit personal, so I'd like to set a rule that the cache, the locality or the owner must not be identified. Just give the 'Hint' and explain why it didn't help. Then if the owner sees it here it is up to them to change it, have a laugh, realise that it was not as helpful as they intended etc. This topic was thought of today after we had a DNF on a cache which was in the middle of nowhere, in brush/shrub land across a dual carriageway (for our US readers that is a divided highway ) from an abandoned truck stop, which was about 1000 feet away. The additional hint was...Used to serve good lunches across the street. Classic. The GPS had got me nearer than that!!

We use some camo duct/duck* tape too, which came from USA. It's brilliant for caches in woody/brackeny/leafy places. I don't know whether you can get it in UK shops, but I've seen it on Ebay. MrsB *Which is it? Or shall we not start that debate again? We must be overdue for one of those 'bad grammar' topics too... Well to quote a generally accepted on-line reference... "...duct tape was originally developed during World War II in 1942 as a water resistant sealing tape for ammunition cases... (It) used a rubber-based adhesive to help the tape resist water and a fabric backing to add strength. It was also used to repair military equipment quickly, including jeeps, firearms, and aircraft because of these properties....The British armed forces refer to it as "bodge tape" because it is often used to effect temporary bodges in lieu of subsequent proper repairs." I can vouch for the final sentence from personal experience. But back on topic, Cammo Bodge/Duct tape is available from UK outdoor sports suppliers and camping shops, though a bit hit and miss...

A good one to bring up.. The owner is a fairly recent member (4 months), they have only found 24 (reasonable figure), this is their first cache and they have never posted in the forums. Perhaps Deceangi was having an off day when he published it? I've just sent the following to the cache owners ... Hello there I'm just dropping you this message as your cache has been mentioned in the UK geocaching forum under the topic of 'Wrapping caches in bin liners?' You can find it here http://forums.Groundspeak.com/GC/index.php...mp;qpid=3796582 Your cache came up because the description mentions being wrapped in a plastic bag. happy caching - careygang So perhaps they will join in the discussion/debate

Given that this question lasted a week with so few responses, I applaud DG for getting it... I'm sure keehotee did not mean to imply that anything underhand had transpired, that's the problem with typed communication, it lacks feeling and tone. Over to you DG.

Must admit I don't get asked, even though I have made my truck trackable with a large TB sign in the back window and a GC.com window cling thing. As personalised plates are cheap over here (if it's available it's yours for just a small fee, none of this rake in the funds for desirable registrations) I know several cachers who have made their wheels trackable and have the licence plate showing the TB ID so people can log a discover if they see it at a meet or on the road. But then this is a strange city in a strange land, so anything can be 'normal'

There's an exception to every rule, but see my post #210 HERE. We should all try to keep things tidy. Generally, I'd say remove it and post in your log why you have done it, that way the owner and other cachers will learn why. It might be that the owner didn't do it; some 'well meaning' individual may have taken it upon themselves to do it, thinking they were helping. In fact I've just remembered, a couple of years ago one of my caches gained a bag; I went out the next day to remove it and re-hide in correct location. Found it wrapped in an old fertilizer bag or something similarly heavy duty... (names removed to save embarrassment etc as they meant well) June 6, 2006 by xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Cache not hidden, it is possible that the people who have cut the hedging back had disturbed it and then re-hidden it. We wrapped container in a plastic bag, to make it less obvious, then hid it close to the tree. TNLN. TFTC.

There's an exception to every rule, but see my post #210 HERE. We should all try to keep things tidy. Generally, I'd say remove it and post in your log why you have done it, that way the owner and other cachers will learn why. It might be that the owner didn't do it; some 'well meaning' individual may have taken it upon themselves to do it, thinking they were helping.

So those who think of themselves as regulars believe they have the right to remove bags off other peoples caches I've visted caches with and without plastic bags. Bags are no big issue IME. If folks don't like a bit of damp or a musty smell they Seriously need to find a different hobby 'Regulars' or anyone with a bit of common sense, should do their best to raise standards, be that removing plastic bags, or inappropriate contents. A suitable contact with the owner, either via the log or their proflile should explain the situation. We all have responsibility to maintain standards. Going back long enough, long before I could possibly be regarded as 'regular' or anything other than a novice, I FTF on this Cache which was a cardboard box in a plastic bag hung in a tree! Slightly off topic but still related in terms of responsible caching, I've also removed items from within caches, be they food, gas lighters, sharp objects like knives or in one case a 'porno' mag from a cache that was set up as a book exchange! (and it went in the bin because it wasn't my type ) Back on topic, there is always an exception to every rule, because you can't have rules to cover every eventuality, but generally plastic bags are bad news and should be CITO'd when found. This does not include 'camo' as they are breathable fabric.

This just serves to illustrate the regional/geographical differences in geocaching. For the UK the GAGB publishes the guidelines (rules) specific to the UK, but unfortunately few cachers will visit their pages, especially in the early stages. It would be good if GSP provided a link to the regional/national pages from the main guidelines page. In the UK, a good locking plastic tub will usually suffice, anything with a hermetic seal. The weather just isn't extreme enough to rapidly deteriorate the plastic. The problem lies with the 'bin bag' being used as a prime means of defence against water ingress around a poorly sealed tub; as had already been said - it does the complete opposite. We're not on page 2 yet!!!

Bump - Can't believe this has stagnated. If MartyBartfast hasn't got it right, the only other 'caves' I can think of down that-a-ways is Clearwell Caves and they were dug/expanded upon by the Forest of Dean Freeminers mining iron ore...