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  1. I don't think the Colorado needs waypoint averaging. Here's why: Take a Garmin GPSmap 60 CSx and average a waypoint 8 times. Average that. They take a Garmin Colorado and let it sit for two average waypoint cycles and then take 8 (single) waypoints. Q - What do you see? A - Much more consistancy with the 8 waypoints (that all fall within the Averaged average waypoint +/- .001 minutes.) If you bake your Colorado, you bake your GPSmap 60. If you allow the Colorado to sit on site for 5 minutes, you let your GPSmap 60 sit on site for 5 minutes. (You'll treat the new unit as well as or better than your previous unit.) You'll get accuate information WITHOUT wasting valuable time, simply because the new unit is as accurate as or even a little more accurate and stable as your old unit that averaged waypoints. You have to realize here that once the GPS attains accuracy within that +/- .001' range, averaging waypoints is a waste of time and battery life. A scientist will (or at least should) know this. Most GPS users aren't scientists! The Colorado simply doesn't need waypoint averaging. Don't believe me. Go out (under controlled conditions) and test it for yourself.
  2. Congratulations! For not only the new purchase, but also for your first geocaching GPS unit and your excellent attitude. Something tells me you have a winning combination here. There is also something to be said about a person who is willing to ride the first technological wave of a product. This isn't your father's GPSmap 60! I initially had difficulty with the Rock n' Roller, figuring out why I was always turning it the wrong way. Its quite intuitive as what needs to be done, but getting the brain wrapped around that in and automatic sense took some time. I tried switching hands at first, thinking that the brain would be fooled twice and I would get the results that I need. Somehow, and without warning, the proper internal wiring was made and I no longer have any issues with finding the proper shortcut that I need. Good luck with your geocaching and your bright, shiny new toy ... tool ... caching partner. I don't think you'll ever regret your decision. - Pat
  3. Regardless of the batteries you choose, you're going to need a quality charger that works in your vehicle. You don't want or need a fast charge unit. This causes too much heat in the battery during charging (too high of current = increased internal resistance = more energy wasted and converted to heat.) I have the Energizer Car Charger, but am looking for a better device for the truck. ____________________________________________________________________ Edit for additional (newly learned) information In doing some research, I just learned what I previously did not know. Yes, heat is the destroyer of a good battery, but its not necessarily due to a high charge rate. From technical information available, the problem comes when batteries are left to trickle charge OR when they are fully discharged. Luckily, our GPS units detect low voltage states in the batteries and shut down automatically. This prevents the batteries from coming to a complete discharge and reversiing polarity. When these batteries are then paired with undamaged batteries, they are pushed in the opposite way (having been polarity reversed) when then destroys the battery. So, fast chargers are not necessarily the cause of damamge to batteries, but the heat associated when a fully charged battery is continued to charge is. If you use a timer AND have a charger that shuts off, this should prevent the problem. There are chargers out there that monitor battery temperatures and shut down the charging cycle to prevent damamge. Since trickle-charging is bad for NiMH batteries, there are chargers out there that have a pulse cycle where high currents are used for short periods of time, thus preventing damage to the batteries. Here is what I use for backups to my regular rechargeable: http://www.duracell.com/precharged/?displayPaneNumber=10 I also have a USB powered charger for my NiMHs that I use from my laptop.
  4. Considering your comments on the Colorado and the lack of comments about the two GPSmap 60/76 units, and also based on your number of finds (thinking that you may lose interest at some time), I would think the Vista HCx is a perfect choice. I have an older Vista C and is my loaner for non-cachers. It is still a gorgeous, vibrant, and clean unit that anyone would be proud to own. (Shoot, now that I describe it, maybe I should sell it!) Good luck caching, regardless of your choice.
  5. People don't like either change or to have thier (sometimes uneduated) expections not lived up to. Can you IMAGINE the uproar if the Colorado had come before the GPSmap 60 CSx units? My god! "Sure, its got a few (almost useless) features that the Colorado does not have, but there are sooo many buttons, and they wear out in less than a year! Its a dull, almost unimaginative unit with a flaky compass and feels cheap in your hand. It may have a few more hours of battery life than my previous unit, but the display has gone backwards in design several steps. I miss my (place your favorite feature here: cache descriptions, cache logs, hints, picture viewer, backgrounds, Wherigo, profiles, stable electronic compass, greater flexibility, redesigned screen displays, etc., etc., etc.)!" For all the naysayers out there: You and your wife can have a brand new GPSmap 60CSx for the cost of ONE Colorado 400t. GO buy yourselves some! Back on topic: I got my Colorado 400t on January 23rd. If someone would come into my home and take my GPSmap 60CSx and my Colorado, and then leave me a brand new GPSmap 60CSx and $500 in cash ... I'd be pissed!
  6. Yet. I'm hoping they will add this capability. Sheesh............... I'm reading tons of threads regarding the Colorado units while trying to decide if I want to swap my 76CSx for one of them. It's things such as the above that keep telling me not to do it. It's unbelievable how many of the simple functions I'm used to having seem to be either missing or buried under a ton of menus on the Colorado units. That's like saying that your old home is cozy with its wood-burning fireplace, but the new home you've been looking at across town (nearer your work) has an energy-efficient air conditioning system and lacks the old technology you currently own so you won't consider the new home! I guess, if you want to always chase old caches, regardless of their current status (including cache logs) and have to delete each found cache manually (or every few days via a slightly more efficient batch process), then your old technology GPS is what you SHOULD be using! I'm curious though. While your International may take to the trails like an old mule, isn't the cost of fuel in that old clunker Eating You Alive??? LMAO!
  7. Ya Know, from my brief time reading these forums, it appears that the standard for today's computer chip controlled electronics manufacture is to sell to the public regardless if they actually deliver on performance. And then when the public informs them the product develops a problem they deploy a firmware or software fix, standard operation . But in all reality that's just bad manufacturing. If you buy a car that's spec'd to give 35mpg and you get 20mpg you going to keep it, Oh! Sure their are workarounds just carry a few jugs of fuel in the car, right, As some Waconians might suggest . The whole Colorado enchilada is hilarious, from just what can be read on this forum, let alone other forums. You guys have spent some hard earned cash for something that is just not up to the what it is being marketed as. Forget the firmware/software updates the screen is a major issue quit making excuses, When did an outdoor tool such as GPS necessitate artificial lighting when you got the biggest light in the Universe overhead . Although I guess if money, really was easy for me than I guess i wouldn't mind giving it away either. Bottom line is I like Garmin , I like their products but this whole Colorado is just killing me. I really enjoy the threads and I do feel y'alls pain toddm, you pretty much nailed my feelings. As consumers we owe it to each other to let manufactures know we are not taking their stuff even if a few of us living on edge are dazzled out of our minds. Geroge, how'd that go {Flame off} For the FIRST TIME today, I had trouble seeing my Garmin Colorado 400t's screen outdoors. IT WAS TOO BRIGHT! Unlike so many others here, I have no issue with the visiblity of the screen outdoors. I am convinced that GARMIN needs to have two screen settings: One for those who can see, and One for the visually impared. The reason you don't see the effect of the backlight during the day (DOH) is that its not needed. If you have the backlight on and set at 100% and you don't see a difference, that should tell the average person something. I guess I ASSume too much! I find it tiring how so many in the forum spend time trashing the product instead of taking the time and equivalent effort to improve the product. I used to say this on the Central Texas Forums, but now I'm here saying it: I'm ashamed. (And not about the performance of this unit.)
  8. 'Simple' will be just on click of a button like the Csr. I just wish it would save the setting like Magellans save the contrast. My old Legend saved my contrast setting too. Ideally the Colorado should save my backlight brightness setting since I always have it set the same. It is able to save your backlight timeout settings for each profile which is nice. A question: Have ANY OF YOU either called Garmin and suggested this to a live customer support tech OR written a suggestion to the Contact Us portion of the Garmin web site? (I don't need a response here. If you have, pat yourself on the back. If you haven't ... where's my cell phone ... 1.800.800.1020)
  9. 'Simple' will be just on click of a button like the Csr. In True LOE style, he states: Csr? Is this a new GPS unit? I have a GPSmap 60CSx. Interested to know! On topic: I can't disagree more. All the HAVE TO HAVEs of the CSx are there and then some. Great antenna, great unit software (that which chews the data from the satellites), rock steady compass (something the CSx DOES NOT HAVE), and sophisticated display screens with ample backlighting (most here are still riding the learning curve on this) not to mention features the CSx will NEVER have. Not ready for prime time? I beg to differ. I will echo the sentiments of having a bleeding edge instrument. It bleeds, heals itself, and keep on ticking. I am SO GLAD to see the OP having returned his unit. The new Colorado is not for him! I'm glad he saw this and did the right thing. As for me, I'm livin' on the edge bay-bee!
  10. This is truly a win/win situation and one of the few you will ever find in the geocaching world. If you buy from gpsnow.com (a very, very reputable company) you will have free shipping and get the GPS fast. Returns won't be a problem, but there may well be fees involved. If you buy from REI, even if you're not currently a member, you will get $50 - $60 back at the end of the year and won't have to pay for shipping. You also get the unit the same day and have their hassle free return policy behind you. Since it is now Saturday and times a wastin', I hope you either bought your GPS or are heading there tomorrow morning! Also: regardless of what you do, install the latest firmware revision (2.40 at the moment) and invest in some good quality rechargeable batteries. I use Duracells and have been pleased with them (they really aren't much more expensive than the "other" batteries). I am looking for a better charger for in-home. I love the new 2000 mAh NiMH "pre-charged" batteries. Shop around and get them at a good price. There is also a $2.00 instant rebate available if you get lucky. - Pat
  11. Here is the situation: Garmin definitely fixed the battery metering problem. The proper levels are set based on the needs of the Colorado to perform. The Colorado still needs a certain amount of energy to run. The backlight is the greatest drain on this and that drain depends on which screen you have displayed and what background you are using at the time. More light coming from the unit = More battery drain What people other than me aren't telling you is that the Colorado screens have been redesigned. It has mostly white text on dark backgrounds on all screens besides the map screen. The fewer brighter pixels you have illuminated, the less power you use. Its that simple. What are some other issues: The Colorado has a larger screen. That takes more power to opperate. The electronic compass is more stable on the Colorado. I suspect this comes at a price for power. The Colorado also have several more pages to go through than on the other units. Instead of buttons, this unit has control screens. This also comes at a price for power. In all these "comparisons," parameters are not consistant and are not being specified. Lets face it, the average geocacher is neither a scientist nor an engineer. To get some accurate information, we really need to specify several things about the batteries and their conditions before we even begin to nail down the specific conditions of the tests. Along similar lines, very little useful information has been collected from the users claiming there is sporatic battery meter readout. We know the first reported issue has been resolved. Now we see a few people stating that they have 3 bars, then 1 bar, then back to 3 bars. I don't think this issue was mentioned before the 2.40 firmware update. That doesn't mean that the update caused the problem. We just don't know until more and more specific information is obtained.
  12. Uhhhh, NO. That's not what I said at all. Considering your viewpoint on this issue: the battery problem is fixed. IN ADDITION: Garmin is working to further increase the performance of the batteries. You are confusing battery performance with battery level display. Two Different Things. _____________________________________________________ For your decision, if you would purchase any advanced mapping GPS, you should consider the Colorado (if your pockets are that deep.) The Colorado does NOT shut off prematurely like it did previously. That has been fixed with the 2.40 firmware revision. The backlight limits do go into affect, but gradually. Not at 2 bars. I think your question of how long the unit will last with 25% and 100% backlight on is neither well defined or particularly useful. Here's why: If you set the backlight levels and set backlight to stay on, THEN leave the unit on the desk, it will run on and on and on. Not for 24 hours, but not for 4 hours either. If you set the backlight levels and set backlight to stay on, THEN go out in the field and use the unit, you will be using more battery power, and thus running the batteries down sooner than you would had it been sitting on your desk. All other things being the same, if you took out the Colorado 400t and the GPSmap 60CSx and set them similarly, you would have a couple more hours of life out of the 60, but still have a good day with both units. Suggestion: If you can't afford three pairs of rechargeable batteries for your new Colorado, you have over-extended your budget and should stick with something less expensive. If you are willing to accept shorter battery life and have backup battieries "just in case," then buy the unit and enjoy it.
  13. No one? I don't understand. Almost anyone who has admitted to seeing increased performance is (secretly) using NiMH batteries. First of all, those who complain, generally don't tell you what they are doing. Its a blanket %&^*%$ session. I relate it to the (this story dates me) mother who peeks into her baby's diaper to see if its full. The baby is crying for some reason. Lets see if there's a gift! Yes, there is increased improvement in NiMH performance with the 2.40 release. Basically, its seen in the corrected battery levels in the meter and not in the actual performance side of the issue. There is some performance, but its hard to tell how much, if any, there is since the meter wasn't indicating the proper battery level AND the unit was shutting off when there was plenty of energy left in the batteries. Garmin is still working on battery consumption. This isn't a completed project. Here is how I see it. If you have NiMH batteries, you should probably have three sets, with the pre-charged version as two or four of the six you have for the unit. I charge up my 2650s the night before I go out, leaving them in the charger for a trickle charge until I leave the house. The other two pair (one pair for me, since I am using 4 pair for two units instead of 3 pair for one) were previously charged and don't lose charge like the standard batteries. I'm set to go. I have a backup pair "just in case. I also have a charger that I can use in the vehicle. This keeps me set for batteries so I don't have to be as concerned with actual performance. In the meantime, I'm cycling new batteries as I use them and waiting for the next firmware release, hoping that I'll see some increase. Regardless, I'm happy. - Pat
  14. Not in my experience. I am notorious for shoving devices - GPS, Blackberry, iPod - in a pocket with other useful items such as keys. After putting nasty scratches in the screen on my old 60CS and my previous phone doing exactly this, I vowed to use an Invisible Shield on all such devices. Since then, I am just as careless, and haven't damaged a screen. And the point, of course, is that if anything does get damaged, it's a $12, replaceable hunk of film, not the screen of a $400 or $600 device. I don't think so. For one thing, the Invisible Shield doesn't even seem to use glue, as such. But even if there is some tiny reduction in brightness, to me that is well worth the protection. And I have never bumped up the brightness to compensate - my Blackberry has a set brightness that is just fine, and I don't even use backlighting on my GPS outdoors - not even with my Colorado. Demonstrably not true. And you wouldn't have even that minor scratch if you were using an Invisible Shield. You're kidding, right? How would that prevent a rock from scratching your Colorado's screen if you drop it out in the field? I know it wouldn't prevent damages from keys in my pocket. I'm left with the strong impression that you've never used an Invisible Shield. The first question is why you'd put your GPS in your pocket. Can anyone say "careless?" Then you said " ... with my keys." I'm not even going there! If you're that reckless, you deserve to have a sock of your "unit." All your arguements aren't. You seem intelligent, but I can see you with your GPS in one hand and your keys in the other ... then mashing them together with a blank look on your face. IIB!
  15. The question is: Besides me and one or two others, who isn't??? I love the Colorado display. Its very well engineered (and I doubt 98% of the people with it in their hand realize why.) But too many people are complaining. Once guy actually feels that its okay to expect to light the trail with the GPS. How rediculous is that?
  16. geobernd: too small??? too wide? Dude, would you like to buy a vowel? Everyone: Why are you wasting your money on these shields? First of all, they are neither invisible nor are they indestructible. They damage more easily than the screen on your GPS units. I've gone around and around on here trying to explain how these things reduce the light coming from the display with no success. No matter how transparent the screen is, the glue itself absorbs some of the light coming from the display. When your brain interprets this, it makes you increase the output, thus reducing your battery life. Also, the screens that Garmin uses for these units are very good as repelling scratches. I've used my GPSmap 60CSx from the first week they were available and only have one very minor scratch on it caused during a severe fall. You paid good money for that unit, now you're covering one of the nicest features with a piece of plastic? If you want more bang for your buck, why aren't you writing Garmin and asking that they raise the edge of the screen 1/16" similar to the way the U.S. Mint protects the face of every coin with a raised rim? If any of you guys have ever complained about a dim screen, you just invalidated your argument!
  17. May sounds like you received a lemon unit, I'd take it back for an exchange. Since I bought mine on Jan 17 I have had the "regular" cited problems, including the battery issues ( ~ 2.5 hours, then 2 bars left ) but since upgrading to 2.4 of the firmware that battery problem is gone and I have cached all day ( well, over 10 hours ) with 2 bars left. I still have the occasional unit freeze issue, usually when loading a cache page ( "Read Description" ), but it's not a big deal to me - it doesn't mean that I think that it's OK, I just have faith that Garmin will fix it down the road if it is technically possible. Yup, definitely exchange your unit. First of all, Garmin is still working on battery issues. This was covered further up this thread or a very similar thread. (IF the GPS worked like these threads do, we'd never get outdoors.) The battery indicator (the initial problem) has been fixed. It may still need a slight tweak, but its at least 95% fixed in my opinion. Improved battery life is a separate issue which is STILL being worked on by Garmin. You have to realize that's going on here. On one hand you have users griping that they display is too dim. On the other hand, you have the same users complaining that the batteries don't last very long. Most of these complaints are with unspecified capacity NiMH rechargeable batteries that it is unclear if they have been cycled appropriately to achieve maximum full charge. You have a larger, brighter screen, greater storage, and different hardware from the GPSmap 60 units, yet people expect more pixels illuminated, to be able to run the backlight the entire time the unit is in use, running the unit continually from sunrise to sunset ... even considering they have ample time to charge another pair of batteries (or have a pair on hand), KNOWING that Garmin is working on the issue, and they still complain. Its like a husband complaining that his 7 month pregnant wife is fat! "Man, my wife is fat. She's getting fatter every week. I've asked her to lose weight, but she keeps getting bigger. I know she's due in two months, but she just doesn't listen to me!" It sounds to me that the first poster above has a defective unit. It almost sounds to me that the batteries aren't seating in the battery bays properly or they have gunk on one or both terminals. What they describe was taken care of in the 2.40 software update. If they are still having similar issues, I would check that the update was installed completely. This is easy to verify. If that isn't it, they really need to take the unit back to where they got it for a new one. My experiences with the 400t I purchased on January 23 are very similar to the second poster above. I'm pleased with my device and see it getting better and better with future updates.
  18. That's interesting because I noticed it twice this afternoon as I was playing around with mine, same symptom as you, hung at the Garmin logo. I'll add it to the list. GO$Rs I'm having the same thing and it's completely random and not very often. We need to alert Garmin Tech. This will be hard to find because tech will not know where in the boot up sequence the units are in. Lets hope theirs are doing the same thing. Glenn I have had my 400t freeze at odd times, but never, ever on startup. Even before the latest upgrade. Sounds to me like it may be a function of the files you are loading. Either the number of files, number of records in the files, or the contents of the files. If I'm not seeing it, it can't be a generic software problem.
  19. I'm not sure what the "Hintm" is. Hintz, Hinta, ... , Hintxzy Whereas my CO has a "Show Hint." First of all, it doesn't say "Hintm." Its says Hintm with words behind that. I.E., part of a sentence. The "m" should have been a "," (comma) I don't know about you guys, but my Colorado says "Show Hint," which is what I typed. Even though this is a typo, how is this confusing? There are only two things it could possibly have said: Show Logs or Show Hint If you read anything, even Show Hintx, wouldn't you know that means that selecting this would show the hint? Ohhhhh, I see. You were being pissy? Clarity, its a good thing. Some typos, especially with my new laptop with a funky keyboard, aren't always going to be found. SO SORRY! LMAO Is it clear now, or do I need to whip out my flash cards?
  20. I live in France and have a 60CX bought in the US. I called Garmin France for service, they were OK to service it but not under warranty because, the US warranty is only ONE year while the EU model is TWO years. So INSIST with Garmin and keep this warranty issue in mind !!!! @Suscrofa Doesn't work. Actually I am even still in the 1 year range. Bought it in April 07. Both Garmin US und Garmin Germany tell me a broken display never falls under the warranty. It is a customer handling fault. Period. I would have to agree here. It seems that TheAbraxas' expectations are unrealistic. Dude, if you ran your car into a phone pole, would Ford replace it for free? I don't think so!
  21. Yep, that does seem to be the best way to do things, and yes, that works fine. With my Vista Cx, I could more or less treat the GPSr as "in sync" with geocaching.com and think of them as mirroring each other. I kind of like having all my found caches listed in the GPSr, at least in my local area. You can still do that with the Colorado, but only if you're willing to manually mark everything you've ever found as found again (and either trust your memory on that or pull up all of your old logs on the site to confirm). The plus side is that by excluding found caches from your PQs, you use less space on the unit. Ah well, I'll operate this way unless Garmin changes this behavior in the future. Do you think GPSBabel and other tools will ever be able to communicate with the Colorado, or does this disk storage mode way of operating mean that it's fundamentally a different type of beast? One of the hardest things to do in geocaching is to sort out and get the best use out of all these different tools. I still have some mental hurdles to overcome and I've been caching for nearly three years. I would suggest that you use GSAK to keep track, or as you say "mirror" the geocaching.com site. This is most easily done by requesting a weekly PQ of your FOUND caches and loading that into GSAK. Then, create other PQs for other places of interest (mine are Waco, Dallas, and Upper Michigan) for the unfound caches that you wish to keep tabs on. A lot of my unfound caches are ones I will never find, but I still want them in the database. If you've done this correctly, you can delete all waypoints from your database and repopulate the database with these fresh pocket queries. This gives you accurate and current information. At that point, you can do exactly the same with any GPS you are using, delete all information and repopulate with information that you need to have on hand. If you want past find information, just load that info into your PDA and have that with you as well. Similar to having a library with distinct books on different subjects. It might also be wise to have your owned caches in your Colorado since those will most likely not take up much space. It would be nice to see how other cachers view your caches on the Colorado. As for the found geocache icon on your Colorado. Its an interesting thought, but is that practicle? (Don't take this wrong.) I'd like a scantilly clad, 22 y.o. brunette who sits in my passenger's seat and keeps track of my gas mileage, fuel level, maintenance schedule, and the nearest place to get a killer margarita ... but that's not too practicle.) I would RATHER see Garmin techies spending their time on more important issues and getting the Colorado that much more usable. I can live without open treasure chests or viewing all found caches for some time. I would rather have my calendar back, but this too may be an old way of looking at things with my GPS can simply tell me what caches I found and therefore need to log online. - Pat
  22. I'm not sure what the "next stage of the final" is, and I also am not sure what the "next next stage of the final" is. First stage, next stage, ... , Final stage Whereas in a two stage multi-cache, there is no "next stage." _________________________________________ I always mark a waypoint and edit the coordinates to the next stage. I label that appropriately (2nd stage, 3rd stage, Final stage, etc.) and make it a geocache symbol. Then, on the calendar (obviously I am referring to the GPSmap 60 units) I see each stage found. If I "Moose Out" on a stage and can't find it, I edit the icon to indicate a moose. If I do not attempt the stage (say I fall, rip my shirt, get mad and leave) I edit the icon to the island icon, indicating that I passed this one up. In the Colorado I would do the exact same proceedure, minus the calendar and if I need to cache description, etc. I'm just out of luck. Regardless of paperless caching, if I'm going to attempt a complex cache with multiple stages, out comes the paper with hints and any information I feel I may need for that cache. If I were doing multiple multi-caches (more than one multi-cache on any given day), I would load these into my PDA and make sure I had that available, Colorado or no Colorado. I would also have them loaded up in my backup unit, now a GPSmap 60CSx and revert back to the old ways in case of failure of my Colorado. Someone may then ask why I'm carrying my 60. Answer: With all the funky claims that have been made on here, don't I want my back covered? YES, the 60CSx will be ON and either in my hand, on my belt, or in my pack. Otherwise I will be running without a backup.
  23. Wow, that's a relief! Thanks qlenfg! I sure missed seeing that change. I was freakin' out in the woods today 4 miles from from my PDA (that I don't carry anymore because of my spiffy 300) when I got stumped and needed any clue from logs I could get. Another bonus! If there are hints in the log, there will also be a Show Hint selection when you click Options. In 2.3 it was always there, whether the log contained hints or not. I don't understand why you guys didn't see this. Surely you saw the list: Show Description, Show Logs, Show Hint (does not appear if no hints are available) when you pressed the options button and were going to Descriptions. The list is there. You had to select which one. You made the selection, but you didn't read the choices? I can see how you might have had a momentary lapse of comfort when the logs weren't there, but wouldn't you normally have then thought "Okay. If I select Options>Show Hintm I'll see the hints ... okay. That's still there. Now I see the Show Logs button." I really, really, really believe its stuff like this that got all those initial Colorado haters off on the wrong foot. It wasn't the unit. The unit performed. It was the user unfamiliar with the unit who wasn't performing. A question: Were both of you guys/gals wearing sunglasses? Maybe you just weren't seeing what you were doing?
  24. A $58 GPS unit. Hmmmmm. If I was at a party, I'd eat a free hamburger, but I wouldn't even consider eating a $0.58 hamburger from anywhere! Think about it. Do you really want a $58 GPS?
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